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26 Jul 2011, 6:54 am

At the moment i am taking part in this other forum and today i was called "bipolar" becuase i do seem too keep changing my opinons quite a lot on some topics

I know AS can be misdiagnosed as bipolar disorder though. like i mentioned in another thread i do get very annoyed over 'small' things in my enviorment and although i don't go into 'black out' rages i do feel like lashing out and screaming or hitting people.

Do you think changing your opinoins a lot can be a strong indicator of BPD?

I read up that people with Bipolar or seveare mental illnesses die 25 years earlier than average people 8O



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26 Jul 2011, 7:17 am

Bipolar Disorder mainly affects mood more than behaviour. Do you have spouts of Mania follow by massive comedowns of Severe Depression?

Changing of opinions, I guess boils down to indecisive thought process which is normal for an Aspie. :)

I change my mind alot of the time, and this might sound peculiar, but I can also change my routine. Perhaps, that's because I've been brought up around a changing environment? I don't know.



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26 Jul 2011, 7:36 am

Well that is a tough question because i would say that my moods are unstabable because things like people in my enviorment can make my mood fluctaute from neutural too 'angry'.

i guess you could say i have behaviour problems but i don't misbehave around strangers or people outside of my family even if my mood changes.

I guess i can get mania sometimes although its not that often. if people are very nice too me or if i am listening too my favourite song my mood can feel in a mania type mood. if people are not very nice too me i do get comedowns. I am not sure what you mean about seveare depression? Somtimes even when i am by myself i can think negatively and get depression.

Remember mood problems could be related too 'mood disorders'. mood disorders are common if you have AS?

Sorry but can you help me out here because i feel your question was way too broad? I can get into a frenzy a lot with mood changes.



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26 Jul 2011, 8:54 am

Your best bet would to get a diagnosis of your mood problems. And to answer your other question, no, I doubt people live shorter with these short of problems, I'm sure you'll be ok. :)



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26 Jul 2011, 8:55 am

it says here that people serious mentall ilness do die earlier though
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13414965



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26 Jul 2011, 8:57 am

Firstly, bipolar moods are very extreme. Both mania and depression are pretty much impossible to disguise and cause serious impairment. Here's the criteria for Major Depressive Episode, Manic Episode and Mixed Episode, a bipolar person has to experience at least one depressive episode plus at least one manic or mixed episode.

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Criteria for Major Depressive Episode (DSM-IV, p. 327)
A. Five (or more) of the following symptoms have been present during the same 2-week period and represent a change from previous functioning; at least one of the symptoms is either (1) depressed mood or (2) loss of interest or pleasure.
Note: Do not include symptoms that are clearly due to a general medical condition, or mood-incongruent delusions or hallucinations.
depressed mood most of the day, nearly every day, as indicated by either subjective report (e.g., feels sad or empty) or observation made by others (e.g. appears tearful). Note: In children and adolescents, can be irritable mood.

markedly diminished interest or pleasure in all, or almost all, activities most of the day, nearly every day (as indicated by either subjective account or observation made by others)

significant weight loss when not dieting or weight gain (e.g., a change of more than 5% of body weight in a month), or decrease or increase in appetite nearly every day. Note: In children, consider failure to make expected weight gains.

insomnia or hypersomnia nearly every day

psychomotor agitation or retardation nearly every day (observable by others, not merely subjective feelings of restlessness or being slowed down)

fatigue or loss of energy nearly every day

feelings of worthlessness or excessive or inappropriate guilt (which may be delusional) nearly every day (not merely self-reproach or guilt about being sick)

diminished ability to think or concentrate, or indecisiveness, nearly every day (either by subjective account or as observed by others)

recurrent thoughts of death (not just fear of dying), recurrent suicidal ideation without a specific plan, or a suicide attempt or a specific plan for committing suicide

B. The symptoms do not meet criteria for a Mixed Episode.
C. The symptoms cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
D. The symptoms are not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication) or a general medical condition (e.g., hypothyroidism).
E. The symptoms are not better accounted for by bereavement, i.e., after the loss of a loved one, the symptoms persist for longer than 2 months or are characterized by marked functional impairment, morbid preoccupation with worthlessness, suicidal ideation, psychotic symptoms, or psychomotor retardation.



Criteria for Manic Episode (DSM-IV, p. 332)
A. A distinct period of abnormally and persistently elevated, expansive, or irritable mood, lasting at least 1 week (or any duration if hospitalization is necessary).
B. During the period of mood disturbance, three (or more) of the following symptoms have persisted (four if the mood is only irritable) and have been present to a significant degree:
inflated self-esteem or grandiosity

decreased need for sleep (e.g., feels rested after only 3 hours of sleep)

more talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking

flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing

distractibility (i.e., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli)

increase in goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or psychomotor agitation

excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences (e.g., engaging in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions, or foolish business investments)

C. The symptoms do not meet criteria for a Mixed Episode.
D. The mood disturbance is sufficiently severe to cause marked impairment in occupational functioning or in usual social activities or relationships with others, or to necessitate hospitalization to prevent harm to self or others, or there are psychotic features.
E. The symptoms are not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication, or other treatments) or a general medical condition (e.g., hyperthyroidism).
Note: Manic-like episodes that are clearly caused by somatic antidepressant treatment (e.g., medication, electroconvulsive therapy, light therapy) should not count toward a diagnosis of Bipolar I Disorder.



Criteria for Mixed Episode (DSM-IV, p. 335)
A. The criteria are met both for a Manic Episode and for a Major Depressive Episode (except for duration) nearly every day during at least a 1-week period.
B. The mood disturbance is sufficiently severe to cause marked impairment in occupational functioning or in usual social activities or relationships with others, or to necessitate hospitalization to prevent harm to self or others, or there are psychotic features.
C. The symptoms are not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication, or other treatment) or a general medical condition (e.g., hyperthyroidism).



Criteria for Hypomanic Episode (DSM-IV, p. 338)
A. A distinct period of persistently elevated, expansive, or irritable mood, lasting throughout at least 4 days, that is clearly different from the usual nondepressed mood.
B. During the period of mood disturbance, three (or more) of the following symptoms have persisted (four if the mood is only irritable) and have been present to a significant degree:
inflated self-esteem or grandiosity

decreased need for sleep (e.g., feels rested after only 3 hours of sleep)

more talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking

flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing

distractibility (i.e., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli)

increase in goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or psychomotor agitation

excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences (e.g., engaging in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions, or foolish business investments)

C. The episode is associated with an unequivocal change in functioning that is uncharacteristic of the person when not symptomatic.
D. The disturbance in mood and the change in functioning are observable by others.
E. The episode is not severe enough to cause marked impairment in social or occupational functioning, or to necessitate hospitalization, and there are no psychotic features.
F. The symptoms are not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication, or other treatment) or a general medical condition (e.g., hyperthyroidism).


Bipolar moods are also generally not triggered by the situation. Mania can be triggered by sleep deprivation, and either mood can be triggered sometimes by the wrong medication, but it's not like they become depressed at something sad, or manic when things are going good.

And most bipolar people feel manic for a month or so, then a few months stable, then depressed a few months, then a few months stable, etc. Though there are some 'rapid-cycling' bipolar who can switch moods within a single day (generally childhood onset bipolar is rapid-cycling).

Switching opinions could occur based on shifting moods, I suppose. But there are plenty of other reasons a person could change their opinion. I think some people use 'bipolar' in a vernacular sense to mean shifting between two extremes, without referring to the actual condition by that name.



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26 Jul 2011, 8:57 am

I'm sure with the right support you won't die early.

I'm only being broad because I've never experienced Bipolar myself but I've known people go through it, and have researched enough about it.



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26 Jul 2011, 9:16 am

But in general why do you think people with bipolar die early? and what do you mean by the 'right suppourt'?

When i am by myself my moods can be stable but i can get myself annoyed sometimes by think negative thoughts. my moods change quickly when i am around other people. a lot of the time around other people my moods can be bad because of various silly things that i get annoyed about. sometimes though around others my mood can be okay. even when i am by myself i never really feel very happy or have mania but just a normal/neutural mood. i do notice that my funcitonal levels can fluctuate over the months and my anxiety can elevate when i am roudn other people becuase of my ridicolous phobias.


Last october i went through a stage of extreme depression and sadness but that was over a girl. 10 years ago as well i underwent a stage of depression and fear of death becacause of my grandmother dying of cancer in 1997.

i get stages of EXTREME depresion and mania over a girl that i migh like who is unavliable.