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11 Mar 2011, 7:24 am

Memory improvement due to using a non-prescription med?

Anyone notice a temporary memory improvement due to using a non-prescription med? Experiences?



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11 Mar 2011, 10:36 am

Caffeine:
I admit I have small amounts of caffenated beverages and my memory seems to improve.

Ginko Biloba: I have noticed no effects from this herb.

Taurine (found in energy drinks): Hard to tell.



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11 Mar 2011, 4:05 pm

A little with oxyracetam/oxiracetam, but it's expensive and gives me headaches. There also seems to be a rebound effect, which makes my pre-existing memory probs a lot worse when it wears off.

There are studies on rats where it shows that does reduce memory deficits induced by certain drugs in rats (anti-cholinergics; I guess that's the a rat model of human dementia).

I've heard that pramiracetam may be better, though it's even more expensive. I had no benefit with piracetam at all.



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12 Mar 2011, 6:03 am

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
A little with oxyracetam/oxiracetam, but it's expensive and gives me headaches. There also seems to be a rebound effect, which makes my pre-existing memory probs a lot worse when it wears off.

There are studies on rats where it shows that does reduce memory deficits induced by certain drugs in rats (anti-cholinergics; I guess that's the a rat model of human dementia).

I've heard that pramiracetam may be better, though it's even more expensive. I had no benefit with piracetam at all.



Wow, I learn new stuff all the time. I thought all the nootropics required prescription. You got me curious. I found myself doing a lot of reading about this. Informative post.



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12 Mar 2011, 8:48 am

Besides caffiene and taurine, are there any others that are reasonably affordable and easy to get hold of, as well as legal? I'm in the UK.



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13 Mar 2011, 1:35 am

Yeah, all the racetams except for "leviracetam" are not regulated as drugs (but rather as food supplements). I wouldn't be surprised if the FDA cracks down in the future, though.

Piracetam (and maybe some others) is a prescription drug in some countries, though I can't remember which off the top of my head.



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13 Mar 2011, 3:52 am

jackbus01 wrote:
Caffeine:
I admit I have small amounts of caffenated beverages and my memory seems to improve.

Ginko Biloba: I have noticed no effects from this herb.

Taurine (found in energy drinks): Hard to tell.


ginkgo seems to be tricky, there are a lot of different types/brands and in my experience their potency or effect can vary greatly...not just dosage in this respect.

also another product:

omega 3-6-9 helped my memory a million times over.

I dont take it right now because I am on a budget and trying to take fewer pills in general but I would highly recomend this.

Just like any product research and try to get one that is pure and with good reviews.


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12 Aug 2011, 8:14 pm

liveandletdie I would like to try omega 3-6-9, but where would I find reviews? Are the supermarket and pharmacy omega pills really any different from each other?

I live in London and would prefer to buy in person, but would consider buying online from a reputable company.



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13 Aug 2011, 4:00 am

Will__ wrote:
liveandletdie I would like to try omega 3-6-9, but where would I find reviews? Are the supermarket and pharmacy omega pills really any different from each other?

I live in London and would prefer to buy in person, but would consider buying online from a reputable company.


i buy currently from a company called "kal" that i just get at a store called super supliments...so if you can find that one it's pretty decent.

bodybuilding.com has good reviews of some products from people who have used them...and they are one of if not the cheapest company do buy supliments from online.

I bought the "kal" brand on a whim, seemed like a quality product from the label...and I got lucky because it works well and no fish burps (you often get fish burps with inferior quality)

You want your fish oil to be "molecularly distilled" which is supposed to make it cleaner/less fishyness and or chemicals.

I tried just suplimenting with omega 3 and it did not do the trick.

3-6-9 seems to help on my memory and on my cardiovascular system. (I have high blood pressure and it lowers it a bit)

You might try using just flax or borage oil to see how those work....though I have not tried it myself. I would not recomend trying just omega 3 without the 6 or 9.

(3=fish, 6=borage, 9=flaxseed) but I dont think those are the only sources for the types of oil.

Typically the more pricey fish oils are going to be better.....but there are a lot of them and it can get confusing....any of them that say 3-6-9 will probably have a decent formula to them.
Even the cheap ones will work but you are more likely to get fish burps, and a generally "lower quality" product....

Hope this helps =/ sorry don't know a lot about buying things in the UK.

As an example here is the one I got most recently:
http://www.amazon.com/KAL-Ultra-Omega-3 ... 941&sr=8-2

Nordic Naturals makes some great omega oil supposedly (haven't tried it) but it is very expensive.


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