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23 Dec 2020, 9:43 am

According to a recent study, published in ScienceDirect, psychopathic propensities contribute to social dominance orientation and right-wing authoritarianism in predicting prejudicial attitudes in a large European sample.

The study focused on the Self-Report Psychopathy Scale-Short Form (SRP-SF) which broke psychopathy into four distinct categories:

• a manipulative and deceptive interpersonal style
• antisocial tendencies
• callousness and lack of empathy
• impulsivity

The latest research findings are said to align with previous studies conducted in Austria which highlighted how some people with seemingly "dark" personality traits had an increased likelihood to support right-wing political views and beliefs.  Roy's research also noted a direct correlation between psychopathic tendencies and judgmental views.

The findings of the study suggest that psychopathic traits, particularly the calloused and deceptive traits, are robustly associated with the tendency to prefer a society that keeps marginalized groups low in status and power and are also predictive of the propensity to use aggression towards violators of traditional social norms, both of which are salient predictors of a variety of prejudicial attitudes.

Is anyone surprised by all this?

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 This ScienceDirect Article 


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27 Dec 2020, 2:46 am

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Is anyone surprised by all this?
I'm NOT surprised.
Now I'm suddently wondering if there has been studies about left-wing politics & mental illness :?: It would not surprise me if people who are left-wing are more likely to have things like anxiety, OCD, depression, & dependent personality disorder.


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27 Dec 2020, 3:49 am

Nope I am not. I knew from when I met my ex, he lacked empathy and was very cold hearted and so judgmental. I had no idea this was common in conservatives but every prejudice, racist, lack of empathy, cold hearted person I ran into online, they all identified as right wing conservative. Coincidence?


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27 Dec 2020, 3:51 am

nick007 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Is anyone surprised by all this?
I'm NOT surprised.
Now I'm suddently wondering if there has been studies about left-wing politics & mental illness :?: It would not surprise me if people who are left-wing are more likely to have things like anxiety, OCD, depression, & dependent personality disorder.



I think they do, same as for being poor, coming from a poor family, being born without skills (like me for example), or other disabilities just like me.


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27 Dec 2020, 3:56 am

nick007 wrote:
Now I'm suddently wondering if there has been studies about left-wing politics & mental illness :?:


You mean like this :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_cons ... tion_error



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27 Dec 2020, 5:20 am

https://www.livescience.com/18132-intel ... acism.html


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27 Dec 2020, 6:08 am

Fnord wrote:
According to a recent study, published in ScienceDirect, psychopathic propensities contribute to social dominance orientation and right-wing authoritarianism in predicting prejudicial attitudes in a large European sample.

The study focused on the Self-Report Psychopathy Scale-Short Form (SRP-SF) which broke psychopathy into four distinct categories:

• a manipulative and deceptive interpersonal style
• antisocial tendencies
• callousness and lack of empathy
• impulsivity

The latest research findings are said to align with previous studies conducted in Austria which highlighted how some people with seemingly "dark" personality traits had an increased likelihood to support right-wing political views and beliefs.  Roy's research also noted a direct correlation between psychopathic tendencies and judgmental views.

The findings of the study suggest that psychopathic traits, particularly the calloused and deceptive traits, are robustly associated with the tendency to prefer a society that keeps marginalized groups low in status and power and are also predictive of the propensity to use aggression towards violators of traditional social norms, both of which are salient predictors of a variety of prejudicial attitudes.

Is anyone surprised by all this?

Source:
 This ScienceDirect Article 


The sample is made up primarily of young Croatian and Greek young people. This is neither representative of the broader European population and (frankly) the findings are somewhat of a worry as the two places in Europe my "grey nomad" parents say are the most tolerant, open and friendly in Europe are Dubrovnik and Athens. I hate to imagine how young people are in northern Europe given that's where far right movements are flourishing.



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27 Dec 2020, 7:23 am

nick007 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Is anyone surprised by all this?
I'm NOT surprised.
Now I'm suddently wondering if there has been studies about left-wing politics & mental illness :?: It would not surprise me if people who are left-wing are more likely to have things like anxiety, OCD, depression, & dependent personality disorder.


And addiction to the feeling of moral superiority, self-righteousness and a penchant for virtue-signalling.
Their slogan is: "Morality is more important than the facts." 8O :mrgreen:

Thankfully, we, as logical aspies, don't fall for that. [irony] 8)



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27 Dec 2020, 7:28 am

Sigbold wrote:
nick007 wrote:
Now I'm suddently wondering if there has been studies about left-wing politics & mental illness :?:


You mean like this :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_cons ... tion_error


Well, we know that wikipedia is non-political. *cough*. :mrgreen:



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27 Dec 2020, 7:30 am

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Nope I am not. I knew from when I met my ex, he lacked empathy and was very cold hearted and so judgmental. I had no idea this was common in conservatives but every prejudice, racist, lack of empathy, cold hearted person I ran into online, they all identified as right wing conservative. Coincidence?


All progressives are good.
All conservatives are bad.
Got it. :thumright: :mrgreen:



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27 Dec 2020, 7:48 am

The following was achieved through a quick Google.
It doesn't bode too well for the progressive side of politics. 8O

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Within-study meta-analysis of all the results found that extreme liberals had a 150%
increased rate of mental illness compared to moderates. The finding of increased mental
illness among left-wingers is congruent with numerous findings based on related constructs,
such as positive relationships between conservatism, religiousness and health in general.

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... d_the_left

I don't take these sorts of things too seriously.
The point I want to make is that if you look, you can usually find arguments favouring either side of "The Coin". 8)



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29 Dec 2020, 4:16 am

Pepe wrote:
The following was achieved through a quick Google.
It doesn't bode too well for the progressive side of politics. 8O

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Within-study meta-analysis of all the results found that extreme liberals had a 150%
increased rate of mental illness compared to moderates. The finding of increased mental
illness among left-wingers is congruent with numerous findings based on related constructs,
such as positive relationships between conservatism, religiousness and health in general.

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... d_the_left

I don't take these sorts of things too seriously.
The point I want to make is that if you look, you can usually find arguments favouring either side of "The Coin". 8)




I think we already know this and you just confirmed it to me and nick007.

Why would people with mental illnesses support a party that works against them?


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29 Dec 2020, 5:14 am

League_Girl wrote:
Pepe wrote:
The following was achieved through a quick Google.
It doesn't bode too well for the progressive side of politics. 8O

Quote:
Within-study meta-analysis of all the results found that extreme liberals had a 150%
increased rate of mental illness compared to moderates. The finding of increased mental
illness among left-wingers is congruent with numerous findings based on related constructs,
such as positive relationships between conservatism, religiousness and health in general.

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... d_the_left

I don't take these sorts of things too seriously.
The point I want to make is that if you look, you can usually find arguments favouring either side of "The Coin". 8)




I think we already know this and you just confirmed it to me and nick007.

Why would people with mental illnesses support a party that works against them?


There are not logical in their thinking?

Are you talking about those who lean to the political left?

Also, more specifically, many auties are poor.
Many can't get a job.
The progressive side of politics tends to looks after the poor, more so.
Why would they vote with the side which helps them? 8)

I don't have a problem with *honest* pragmatism. :wink:



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29 Dec 2020, 9:23 am

Pepe wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Pepe wrote:
The following was achieved through a quick Google.
It doesn't bode too well for the progressive side of politics. 8O

Quote:
Within-study meta-analysis of all the results found that extreme liberals had a 150%
increased rate of mental illness compared to moderates. The finding of increased mental
illness among left-wingers is congruent with numerous findings based on related constructs,
such as positive relationships between conservatism, religiousness and health in general.

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... d_the_left

I don't take these sorts of things too seriously.
The point I want to make is that if you look, you can usually find arguments favouring either side of "The Coin". 8)




I think we already know this and you just confirmed it to me and nick007.

Why would people with mental illnesses support a party that works against them?


There are not logical in their thinking?

Are you talking about those who lean to the political left?

Also, more specifically, many auties are poor.
Many can't get a job.
The progressive side of politics tends to looks after the poor, more so.
Why would they vote with the side which helps them? 8)

I don't have a problem with *honest* pragmatism. :wink:



I think it's pretty logical for the disabled and the poor to vote for the progressive side that helps them.

The right are anti poor, anti welfare, anti national Healthcare. Their ideologies are ableist. They assume lot of us are just lazy and not trying hard enough. So yeah it would be illogical to support these people. So it's not surprising that people with disabilities and mental illnesses tend to be in the left.


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29 Dec 2020, 9:48 am

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I think it's pretty logical for the disabled and the poor to vote for the progressive side that helps them.  The right are anti-poor, anti-welfare, anti-national Healthcare.  Their ideologies are ableist.  They assume lot of us are just lazy and not trying hard enough.  So yeah it would be illogical to support these people.  So it's not surprising that people with disabilities and mental illnesses tend to be in the left.
I agree 100%.  Many of them are also devout, cherry-picking, Evangelical Christians who whole-heartedly believe whatever they read in their Bibles, as long as they already agree with it...

"... For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.  For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies.  Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.  As for you, brothers, do not grow weary in doing good.  If anyone does not obey what we say in this letter, take note of that person, and have nothing to do with him, that he may be ashamed..." -- The Apostle Paul's second letter to the Thessalonian Church, chapter 3, verses 10 through 15 ESV

Jesus preached love, charity, and inclusion.  Paul was a misogynistic Christian evangelist and a lawyer -- a man somewhat befitting of the description in my first post of this thread -- who seemed determined to maintain the authority of the male elite in the new Jewish sect we now know as "Christianity".


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