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Been on testosterone to transition from female to male from 24-26 and 36-41 now

Yesterday a customer called me "Amiga" and another customer called me "sir or ma'am".

That's a long time on testosterone and only less menstruation

Physical strength, emotions, weight, the same, sleep

Still look and sound like a woman

Appetite skyrocketed

Hopefully you already know, BUT........

1. Testosterone really DOESN'T make you "STRONGER". There are TWO things it does basically.....
a. It may be converted to DHT, which will MAY cause androgen receptors to be activated. THIS would change a few things on a female, and this would include the voice deepening. On a female this is tricky, since it may NOT change certain things and you would still have a voice with a female quality to it. It would ALSO cause the hair growth to change, and chang another female part, though it would STILL be FEMALE! Other things would change on a male, INCLUDING EMOTIONS, and muscle composition, but THAT happens like days after conception, so it won't happen to you.
b. The STRENGTH difference is created by the fact that testosterone is an ANABOLIC STEROID! Unless you are young, and have other triggers, you have to tear down the muscle to rebuild it. So you have to EXERCISE near your limit for many reps and sets. 5 sets of 5 reps each is a good start. If you can do say 7 reps, per set, it is too light, and you should increase the weight, or the number of reps per set. BTW you should ALSO take 40% as many grams of protein as you weigh in pounds! Take about 12 times as many calories total as you weigh in pounds. Women are weaker mainly because the muscle composition is different(testosterone won't change that), and they can't recover fast enough to build enough(Testosterone WILL help THAT). And if you ar looking to fight mals, etc.... forget that. The BONE composition is different ALSO.

A few more possibilities!! !! !! I HAVE TO MENTION THEM!! !!

#1 Remember when I spoke of "androgen receptors" in #1 earlier? I was going to mention ANOTHER possibility, but the fact that you are having periods means you likely ARE a woman, and so no concern on THAT side.
Just to double check, you DO have some body hair, like under the arms, etc... though, right? If not, you COULD simply be steroid insensitive. I DOUBT any such people have periods, and apparently NO such people have body hair. I am not a doctor, I just had a LOT of interests when I was younger.

A few other things. Estrogen WILL work against testosterone. Also, they likely WON'T give you the full Male dosage. Men NEED like 400-500 just to seem normal. And the max is like 1000-1300. A woman will start showing symptoms of high testosterone with even like 100ng/dl. (All amounts are ng/dl NanoGram per DeciLiter) Just out of curiosity, how are you getting the testosterone? Needle, pill, patch?

And WHY are you trying to seem like a male? I am curious, and I never bothered to actually ask a "trans" person. It is such a waste, since you would be giving up a culture in a way, and the ability to start a family, etc... and stuff you know. Things you have taken for granted will maybe DISAPPEAR!

Male's voices DO deepen relatively quickly. The fact that YOURS hasn't makes me wonder if you are getting enough usable testosterone, or are insensitive to it somehow. You COULD simply still have a female quality to the voice, or a female word choice, or they could be going by your appearance. You could also be simply on the wrong diet. Unfermented soybeans, for example, have a chemical that works AGAINST testosterone. Men usually have enough testosterone so that it isn't noticeable, and most other countries ferment it, etc....

SFBUM, have you been prescribed any sort of estrogen antagonist alongside testosterone?

Some of the things you've complained in the past about would be addressed by an estrogen antagonist (breast atrophy is a typical side-effect, for example).

You should probably ask that question before being categorically dismissive of trans people. It's hard to be genuinely sympathetic to someone when your attitude towards the topic is (by your own admission) rooted in ignorance and also quite judgmental and dismissive.

Actually, above, I was NOT dismissive of ANYONE! I gave VALID responses to answer the questions SFBUM asked. Sorry if you dislike the caveats I put in. As for the exercise, THAT IS GENERALLY NEEDED! Males DO get a lot stronger in their teens, even if they do NOTHING, but that is because of GROWTH! Females need more work, and have less growth, so they don't seem to get as strong in their teens. So if they want to have the muscle growth, EVEN WITH TESTOSTRONE, they need more exercise. Sorry if that sounds sexist. One of the youngest kids to get SUPER STRONG is a little GIRL! SHE apparently didn't even take testosterone. I guess we may see later if that is true. But she DID exercise a LOT, and she started YOUNG!! !! ! So her BIGGEST secret may be all of the GROWTH HORMONE! Such a combination is VERY VERY VERY RARE!

HERE is the girl I was talking about: https://www.essentiallysports.com/bodyb ... mpionship/

negligible mustache (not nearly enough to shave).

voice a lil lower, but it wasn't that high before testosterone, and it isn't that low now

menstruation gone

emotionally and mentally the same

physical rapidly getting much weaker, but that might have more to do with aging than testosterone

head looks the same as before testosterone

been taking 150mg every four weeks. prescribed 150 mg every two weeks. that way, when problems with the insurance or anything else come up, i don't end up without testosterone. full dosage is 200mg per two weeks. every time i get testosterone, it takes time, $$$ and energy. been exhausted lately. jealous of cisgender men. they don't have to take testosterone shots, don't have to go to Gender therapy, deal with homophobia and wrong litterboxes, or get called "she". (rolls eyes) and some of them take it for granted, such as mister redelings.

What T does to you is largely determined by genetics to my understanding. I define myself as non-binary but am considering possibly taking T in the future and am probably some degree of transmasculine.

My sister is MTF. If it helps, not all male bodied people get a deep voice. My sister before her transition never got a voice that was deep... which in her case, works out for her in terms of transition to a woman.

Today a customer had the nerve to tell me "bring me a man. A man better"

The customer was trying to load a door. So I brought him Roy. Roy much stronger than me but he is 67 and I am only 42.

"Customer always right"

(Rolls eyes)

He did not say it in a sexist, homophobic or rude way. More like he didn't speak English and he didn't know better.

MtF here. I sound exactly like a woman. Telemarketers don't want to talk me.
Voice never got deep. Got speech therapy to modulate my voice. I enunciate clearly and speak in long sentences.
No HRT. Just diet and exercise.

I never got much respect as a really short thin guy. Even when I had a full beard I'd get misgendered as female!
Once by a TSA agent in an airport!

Now I wear really nice XS women's clothes that fit perfectly!
I have an hourglass figure with a thin waistline so it is easy to look good wearing a skirt.
Now when I'm walking across a parking lot people stop their cars and let me cross.

it takes a lot of time, $$ and energy to get the testosterone prescription. sometimes the portal says the prescription ready for pickup and i go all the way over there and they tell me it's not ready. (rolls eyes).

been on 150 mg/2 weeks, since december 2021. been taking one shot every four weeks. that's so that i don't have to go to the pharmacy so often.

full dose is 200mg/2 weeks

Today a customer had the nerve to tell me that the plant that she bought was "too heavy for you" and call "a guy". (Rolls eyes). She was talking too much but almost everyone does that. She acted like she thought she was perfectly reasonable. Then when I asked Julio, he said "huh?" And I repeated. "A tree". "A plant?". "Yes". "I'm going on break". "You are on break or you are not on break". Then I called paddy but he hesitated. The training video says all servants required to help with loading but they don't enforce it.

Today a customer had the nerve to call me "sister"

I look and sound more like a woman than I did before testosterone

since december 2021, been prescribed 150mg/2 weeks testosterone.

been taking it 150mg/4 weeks testosterone. reason being, $$$$. sometimes it takes a lot of time and energy to get a refill from the pharmacy or problems with the insurance.

if i took the prescribed (correct) dose, all things equal, i might get physically stronger. but not all things are equal, esp since i am 42 and rapidly getting weaker. ASM javier said that if i do not get a doctors note, and a customer has the nerve to tell me to lift eighty pound concrete and i fail to do so, then i get a write up. (rolls eyes). but that much (or that little) testosterone, for such a small amount of time, is not going to have such a large impact on my lifting limit.

sometimes i get paranoid that i ate so much fat that my menstrual cycle is coming soon. yesterday, in the parking lot at work, found and ate a burrito that appeared to be scrambled eggs and refried beans. delicious. (on the other hand, 2016, ate two bus stop tamales and then had a lot of difficulty for over one week afterwards)

nobody prescribed estrogen antagonist for me.
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collie grace:

"What T does to you is largely determined by genetics to my understanding. I define myself as non-binary but am considering possibly taking T in the future and am probably some degree of transmasculine.

My sister is MTF. If it helps, not all male bodied people get a deep voice. My sister before her transition never got a voice that was deep... which in her case, works out for her in terms of transition to a woman."

how statistically unlikely for two siblings in the same family to hormonally transition to the opposite sex. how convenient to be able to bond with someone in the same family about hormonal transition. when i was 21, i didn't know anyone that was (openly) post transitioned. it wasn't until i went to the LGBT center trans support group that i meant a single openly posttransitioned male to female transsexual.
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yesterday, noticed something that looked like blood coming out. not a lot, but i find it hard to imagine that it was anything besides menstruation. my period hasn't come since January 2022. thank buddha, it was a really small amount and appears to have stopped (at least, for now).

since the end of 2021, been on testosterone 150mg/four weeks. (the prescription was for 150mg/two weeks, but i don't take it that often, b/c refills take time, $$$ and energy, and that much testosterone causes appetite to skyrocket, and grocery costs skyrocketing).

the other thing - i have to be more uptight about diet. drinking the grease/fat from microwaved chicken, while delicious, is something that is no longer sustainable at the age of 42. simply due to aging alone, plenty of unwanted changes in health. and i am terrified that sooner or later, my health will get a lot worse, due to an accident, disease, disability, or anything else like that. b/c my health already fragile and bad enough.

but whatever. worrying won't do anything.

A premise:
I don't like it when a transition is hypothesized and someone, I'd say not very intelligent (the phrase would be less polite than that), embarrasses other *People* by forgetting
a) That they are people and should be respected
b) That it's none of their business.
c) "Amiga" or "Sir/Madam" are annoying.
°Some time ago, a Person Mt F came into a pharmacy, and she thought the pharmacist had recognized her.
She didn't use "Sir" or "Madam," but said to her: "Excuse me, but I don't remember you. Can you give me your prescription so I can give you your prescription, thanks."
Then the person left and no one said anything.
They continued to wait in line.
Huh! Honestly, they don't even look at you here.
Even if you later find out that a relative said I had both a delicate face and an unmasculine body.
So I already looked different, it's just that some mental inhibition kept them from telling me.

I honestly don't know if we're ahead or behind as a society.

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Regarding taking medications, always rely on competent doctors and endocrinologists.

Regarding the therapies in the first post, they should be checked if they don't work, and adjusted better.

every time i refill testosterone prescription, it's not just clicking a couple buttons on the computer. sometimes there's a problem with the prescription and i have to make a phone call, and be "on hold" for two hours, without exaggeration. then i have to take the bus over there and wait in line and talk to the pharmacist and take the bus back. testosterone $$$. time, $$$ and energy. shots hurt.

not worth the hassle