Best decade for heavy metal.

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Best decade for metal

The 70's (Black Sabbath debut, punk nearly kills metal and the NWOBHM begins)	18%	[ 7 ]
The 80's (Venom lead the early black metal charge, Metallica begin and glam metal enters the mainstream)	51%	[ 20 ]
The 90's (Metal goes underground with death and black metal, Machine Head debut and Pantera re-invent themselves)	21%	[ 8 ]
The 00's (Nu-metal dies after a short-lived period and new bands emerge)	10%	[ 4 ]

Total votes : 39

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20 Jan 2012, 11:58 am

Why does everyone think the 00's is all metalcore? :cry:

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20 Jan 2012, 12:36 pm

RushKing wrote:

Why does everyone think the 00's is all metalcore? :cry:

Not exactly, you still have some good metal bands that don't play the core genre. Look at Evile, Sylosis, Alestorm, In Solitude, Hammers of Misfortune and Watain, all good non-core bands.

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20 Jan 2012, 12:45 pm

RushKing wrote:

Why does everyone think the 00's is all metalcore? :cry:

I guess because metalcore/thrashcore is the only metal that's mainstream because it's trendy with teenagers.

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20 Jan 2012, 5:31 pm

marshall wrote:

RushKing wrote:

Why does everyone think the 00's is all metalcore? :cry:

I guess because metalcore/thrashcore is the only metal that's mainstream because it's trendy with teenagers.

Bands like Evile and Warbringer aren't "thrashcore", which is an insanely stupid attempt at pigeonholing. The former and latter have recently released new albums, and not a trace of core proceedings can be found amongst their musicianship.

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20 Jan 2012, 8:12 pm

LexingtonDeville wrote:

marshall wrote:

RushKing wrote:

Why does everyone think the 00's is all metalcore? :cry:

I guess because metalcore/thrashcore is the only metal that's mainstream because it's trendy with teenagers.

I don't really know anything about those bands and I never said they were "thrashcore", they sound like regular thrash metal to me. I just said <blank>core music is what's trendy with teenagers. From what I gather, metalcore is down-tuned distorted chugga chugga music that lacks the emotion and dynamic intensity of real emo/hardcore and lacks the hard edged brutality of thrash metal. I'm pretty clueless though as I don't listen to it. I'm just interested in learning about different genres.

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21 Jan 2012, 12:33 am

Modern.

I listen to a lot of deathcore (Whitechapel, The Acacia Strain type stuff), metalcore (All That Remains, Parkway Drive, etc), modern death metal (Aeon, Abysmal Dawn, Hate Eternal, Nile), and can't STAND the sound of 80's-90's death metal. It sounds half done to my ears.

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21 Jan 2012, 6:03 am

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Fair enough, to each their own, but at least death metal in the 80's and 90's didn't have ret*d pig squeals. Give me death metal like early Deicide, early Morbid Angel, Death and Obituary over "bree bree" sounds and plagiarised breakdowns. Nile are an amazing modern death metal band, partly due to the Egyptian themes. Most metalcore is half-baked anyway.

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21 Jan 2012, 2:12 pm

LexingtonDeville wrote:

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Pig squeals aren't as common as you might think. Very few of the bands I listen to use them. Most vocalists also have no clue how to do them right, and it ends up sounding more like a pig getting struck by lightning.

My issue with earlier death metal isn't the music (I'm a big fan of Morbid Angel and Deicide actually) it's the production. It's muddy, it's not nearly as clear as modern production, add to that that many of the older recordings are sloppy musicianship wise and I just can't listen to it for very long.

No, instead of plagiarised breakdowns you'll have every band playing the exact same drum beats over and over. Ever since Pete Sandoval brought the blast beat in to metal, almost every death metal band started sounding the exact same.

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21 Jan 2012, 2:35 pm

abacacus wrote:

LexingtonDeville wrote:

abacacus wrote:

Guess i was wrong, apologies. I guess i'm one of the many who prefer the old-school over deathcore and metalcore, with the exception of a few bands who have been lumped in the core genre, like Lamb of God and Sylosis, both of which are nowhere near the latter genre.

Still, you have to look at Possessed for starting death metal. They were thrash at the time, but their title track from Seven Churches was the blueprint for death metal getting their name.

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