Getting into trouble over music sometimes.

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KeepThePeace
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31 Jul 2011, 8:11 am

I have always LOVED music. I play guitar. My last girlfriend always thought that I cared about the words to songs. She always applied the words to my life and gave me s**t about it. Is it a neorotypical thing? When I fall in love with a random song, and later find out what the words are saying. I catch a lot of grief over it, from people. I often really don't care if the song is about nose hair. If it sounds great. Then I often just want to learn to play it. Does anyone else go through this? I am afraid this will happen again in future relationships with people. The words of all sorts of songs apply to life in general.

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31 Jul 2011, 8:16 am

This happens to me! Unfortunately the mood of music that can sound so great and playful, is often accompanied by the dirtiest lyrics ever. :(



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31 Jul 2011, 9:29 am

Sometimes when I lack the right words to express how I feel I use lyrics. Many people do this; it's a more discrete way to show it. Music was my first love, I can't live without it. It helped me to escape my childhood beside my autism. Music reminds me on special people I like very much, they left a melody in my life.
So I don't think it's a neurotypical trait. It's more how you use music in your life. You feel only attracted by the sound, I feel attracted by the lyrics and the sound : )



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03 Aug 2011, 9:13 pm

Reminds me of:
"She hasn't even heard them
Since she found out what the words meant
She decided she preferred them
All wrong" -- "Testing 1, 2, 3" by the Barenaked Ladies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lJz8xdZQu4)

Seriously, though, lyrics don't matter that much to me either when it comes to songs. Take the following song, for instance, where I have no idea what they're singing about, but I think sounds cool:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpre7-iNDV4[/youtube]
Edit: I presume from the style of the video that it's probably something anti-military industrial complex, but who knows?


Good lyrics are certainly a bonus, though.



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04 Aug 2011, 5:04 pm

KeepThePeace wrote:
I have always LOVED music. I play guitar. My last girlfriend always thought that I cared about the words to songs. She always applied the words to my life and gave me sh** about it. Is it a neorotypical thing? When I fall in love with a random song, and later find out what the words are saying. I catch a lot of grief over it, from people. I often really don't care if the song is about nose hair. If it sounds great. Then I often just want to learn to play it. Does anyone else go through this? I am afraid this will happen again in future relationships with people. The words of all sorts of songs apply to life in general.

Signed,
Confused music lover


Its not an aspie-vs-nt thing. Its a musician vs non-musician thing.

Like a typical musician you focus on the role of the instruments so you can figure out how to play the song. And are moved by sound of the instruments to pick tunes to play.

Non musician music lovers like myself are aware of both lyrics and melody though we dont always know what the heck our favorite rock songs are about.

Years ago one of my best friends was a music student from a family of jazz musicians. They would talk to each other about songs by saying "it goes bippipity boopity doo wah wooh". Once on the phone we got into a conversation about some old jazz standard song ( I forget which- satin doll - something like that). I kept asking him " how does the song go" and he would reply "well thats pretty much it - doo doo wah wah". Years later it still pisses me often that he didnt realize that Im a non musician and that he shouldve known that like all non musicians when I ask "how does a song GO" that im mean "what are the WORDS to the song?".

However musicians who double as songwriters are very into poetry are also very word/lyric oriented.



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04 Aug 2011, 10:38 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
KeepThePeace wrote:
I have always LOVED music. I play guitar. My last girlfriend always thought that I cared about the words to songs. She always applied the words to my life and gave me sh** about it. Is it a neorotypical thing? When I fall in love with a random song, and later find out what the words are saying. I catch a lot of grief over it, from people. I often really don't care if the song is about nose hair. If it sounds great. Then I often just want to learn to play it. Does anyone else go through this? I am afraid this will happen again in future relationships with people. The words of all sorts of songs apply to life in general.

Signed,
Confused music lover


Its not an aspie-vs-nt thing. Its a musician vs non-musician thing.

Like a typical musician you focus on the role of the instruments so you can figure out how to play the song. And are moved by sound of the instruments to pick tunes to play.

Non musician music lovers like myself are aware of both lyrics and melody though we dont always know what the heck our favorite rock songs are about.

Years ago one of my best friends was a music student from a family of jazz musicians. They would talk to each other about songs by saying "it goes bippipity boopity doo wah wooh". Once on the phone we got into a conversation about some old jazz standard song ( I forget which- satin doll - something like that). I kept asking him " how does the song go" and he would reply "well thats pretty much it - doo doo wah wah". Years later it still pisses me often that he didnt realize that Im a non musician and that he shouldve known that like all non musicians when I ask "how does a song GO" that im mean "what are the WORDS to the song?".

However musicians who double as songwriters are very into poetry are also very word/lyric oriented.


Agreed. I play musical instruments and I focus on the sounds and not the words. The singing in songs just seems like another instrument in my mind. A good example of this... I love the Talking Heads and have been listening to their same songs for years, yet I still have no idea what David Byrne is singing about. After years of listening to them I still can't actually sing along because I don't know half the words.


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05 Aug 2011, 3:15 pm

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Sometimes when I lack the right words to express how I feel I use lyrics. Many people do this; it's a more discrete way to show it. Music was my first love, I can't live without it. It helped me to escape my childhood beside my autism. Music reminds me on special people I like very much, they left a melody in my life.
So I don't think it's a neurotypical trait. It's more how you use music in your life. You feel only attracted by the sound, I feel attracted by the lyrics and the sound : )


I have been there and written lyrics/poetry that have applied to my life as well. That helps...now that you have mentioned it. uuuhhhhh....duuuuuuhhhh......yeah.......it just takes the desire to do so and the time and place.....and subject matter. Oh yeah, and time to think for oneself. 8O

Makes more sense now......thanks.



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05 Aug 2011, 3:44 pm

I am loving this thread.....have really enjoyed everyone's imput. The jazz babble talk would be kinda frustrating for me as well. ha-ha!

As a kid....I used to have "Eminence Front", by The Who, all screwed up.

Eminence front(2x) - it's a put on

I always ran around singing, "nama nama bud, nama nama bud, it's a put on!"

And a guy I used to work with had it........."Livin' in a PUD, livin' in a PUD, it's a put on!" (P.U.D, he said, was a "Public Urban Development.")

My boss, at the time, ran into us singing it all wrong, and was all annoyed because he knew the proper words. He's just like uuuhhhh.....do you guys mean Eminence Front?

I laughed even harder to myself when I saw how annoyed he was at us!

It feels appropriate talking music on here though! Fun.....I don't feel so "in trouble".