How rare is this kind of person?

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14 Jun 2005, 7:59 pm

My mind just has 'Meh.' on repeat, with the occasional 'Whoo!' or 'Tee-hee' thrown in for good measure.

And sometimes it goes 'Habablafahooblesnit' or 'Scroink!'



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20 Jun 2005, 11:53 am

Nomaken wrote:
How rare is a person who is deeply interested in others minds? I have one friend who has a mind that is very fun to explore, he is very resistant, stubborn, and has very well constructed defense mechanisms. I enjoy trying to break them down. I also enjoy exploring my other friends minds. Sometimes i wish there was someone like me who would try to explore my mind. So how rare is this kind of person?

I would try. I am interested in trying to understand other peoples' minds.


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09 Jul 2005, 5:21 am

I love to get into peoples' minds.
They may think I'm picking on them, though and usually tell me to leave them alone.
The only people I've had do it to me, are psychs. And they are getting paid to do it.
Sometimes I don't think they do it well enough, either. :roll:



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15 Jul 2005, 4:39 pm

OMFGZ I DO THE SAME THING.

Man, I did finally meet someone like that, but he turned out to have way too little interests and was, well, closed-minded. Nonetheless, people like that exist. I know that people tend to get overly annoyed when I do it to them, though. I've lost a couple of friends because I was just too curious about them. So...I recomend watching yourself, try not to bug the person too much.

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By the way, you have a great icon.


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15 Jul 2005, 7:14 pm

rare i dont think i am like what you described in the message :idea: :|


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17 Jul 2005, 12:29 pm

The only flaw to intelligence, is not to extrapolate reason. When there are psychological explanations they either require intelligence, or the will to live life rationally. So there are two types of people, Psychologists and Patients.



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17 Jul 2005, 3:32 pm

Uhm, forgive me for asking, but how do you explore other people's minds?



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17 Jul 2005, 5:49 pm

Nomaken wrote:
I have one friend who has a mind that is very fun to explore, he is very resistant, stubborn, and has very well constructed defense mechanisms. I enjoy trying to break them down. I also enjoy exploring my other friends minds.


Perhaps this 'resistance' and stubbornness stems from the fact that mental defences are in place for a reason; to protect the Ego. That may appear irrational and senseless, but most people have a healthy aversion to unnecessary pain.

Nomaken wrote:
Sometimes i wish there was someone like me who would try to explore my mind. So how rare is this kind of person?


There are thousands of people who love playing psychological and psychoanalytic parlour games, there is no shortage of them out there.

I am particularly constitutionally susceptible to this sort of teasing which is one reason why I don't like it. I can look at a situation dispassionately from a distance, but if I am locking horns with a competing mentality, I feel besieged and under attack. Unsurprisingly, I tend to react accordingly.



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17 Jul 2005, 5:57 pm

Minusmanus wrote:
Uhm, forgive me for asking, but how do you explore other people's minds?


I think it is a process of trial and error; try something to see if it works, then change your campaign of action if it fails. I suspect that gaining someone's trust, wheedling them for reams and reams of information, tripping them up on minor inconsistencies in what they have said, tying them in knots (which actually isn't so difficult to do if you're trying to manipulate people's emotions), then proving yourself to be somehow 'superior' by having them fly off on one, ore explode (figuratively), in a fit of rage and aggression.

These are the very qualities of other people that confirm my decision to keep them all at arms length at worst; further away if possible.



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18 Jul 2005, 1:15 am

adversarial wrote:
Minusmanus wrote:
Uhm, forgive me for asking, but how do you explore other people's minds?


I think it is a process of trial and error; try something to see if it works, then change your campaign of action if it fails. I suspect that gaining someone's trust, wheedling them for reams and reams of information, tripping them up on minor inconsistencies in what they have said, tying them in knots (which actually isn't so difficult to do if you're trying to manipulate people's emotions), then proving yourself to be somehow 'superior' by having them fly off on one, ore explode (figuratively), in a fit of rage and aggression.

These are the very qualities of other people that confirm my decision to keep them all at arms length at worst; further away if possible.

Or instead you saw open their head and probe in with a spoon. They do that in parts of the Far East..... But to monkeys.... That are dead.... And being eaten.... By the 'brain surgeons'.


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08 Aug 2005, 11:23 pm

I'm very interested in other people's minds.I like to know how other people think and feel.

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12 Aug 2005, 5:41 am

nayashi wrote:
I've lost a couple of friends because I was just too curious about them. So...I recomend watching yourself, try not to bug the person too much.

Cheers!

By the way, you have a great icon.

This is so similar to me, I just don't see myself bugging them until it is too late!
I like your avatar too. It's fun :D



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12 Aug 2005, 2:15 pm

adversarial wrote:
Perhaps this 'resistance' and stubbornness stems from the fact that mental defences are in place for a reason; to protect the Ego. That may appear irrational and senseless, but most people have a healthy aversion to unnecessary pain.

There are thousands of people who love playing psychological and psychoanalytic parlour games, there is no shortage of them out there.


Yeah. I think that a lot of people enjoy making a connection with others and are pleased when another person really seems to be trying to understand their point of view. But there is a limit to that. Most people are adverse to having someone else trying to get inside their mind. That becomes a violation of personal boundaries. It usually involves the probing of areas that we only want to open to someone we really trust and with whom we share a special, intimate bond. There is an important personal integrity involved in maintaining the privacy of our own thoughts.

Few people enjoy feeling like they are being treated as lab rats in psychology experiments. It's not the kind of thing they want to engage in as a social activity with friends.

If you ARE interested in being a subject in psychological experimentation, many university psychology departments are happy to sign up volunteers for their projects.



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13 Aug 2005, 3:13 am

I would think that enjoying exploring others' minds is somewhat rare; how do I know if I'm trying to explore someone else's mind? Or to put it differently, what exactly do you mean by exploring someone's mind?


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25 Aug 2005, 11:03 am

Nomaken,

There is nothing wrong with wanting to explore peoples' minds as long as it is done in a consenting way on the part of both parties. Like pyraxis says, it is best to indulge the emotion, let them know/feel it is real, and then it will dissolve. That is what leaving the past and all of its old hurts behind is all about and that is what burning emotional baggage is all about.

People who have the knack for exploring minds are not as rare as you may think. I think the rareness in that talent is in the discernment of how it's done, what the real intentions are, and whether the the person being explored is both comfortable and consenting about it. I encourage you to continue to explore that talent but remember it can be a touchy issue sometimes when dealing with other people.


And Fellows Posters,

I seem to see two ways of reading minds in this thread. One is with the services of a trained professional psychologist, and the other looks to me like an intuitiveness of a psychical nature that I seem to see as very common in Aspies.

Computerwidow mentions here that few people like being treated like lab rats, and when I touch on this, I try to see it from an NT's perspective. I get the impression that a lot of us Aspies have that kind of intuition but in all too many of us, that aspect of our minds' workings is untamed.

I have a theory about that: could it be why we Aspies have been maltreated so much in our early years? It suggests that our adversaries subconsciously picked up on our "aggressive" or "intrusive" thoughts and reacted out of F.E.A.R. (False Evidence Appearing Real).

The mind of an Aspie is slower than normal compared to an NT's but OTOH, usually more thorough and analytical in processing info. This seems to explain where that Aspie intuitiveness comes into play. We probe, we "feel out", we reach in and sponge-up the info, but sometimes I think we unintentionally pry where we shouldn't. Maybe it explains why we Aspies have such lousy luck in playing the dating game.

I wish there was a simpler way I could explain myself, but I will relate from my own experiences. When I think about it, I too had this untamed knack for sometimes seeing into other peoples' lives further than they cared to show and it was as if they in turn were picking up on what I was thinking and next thing, it was: **** off you creep :wink:

All along, I had suspected this about myself but could never figure it out. I just pissed people off seemingly without doing anything. Whatever I was doing, I just didn't realize it at the time. I've since become a lot more aware of myself since coming to know my AS and taming and "policing" that facet of me seems to have made a big difference in the way NT's behave towards me.

I know this may seem complicated for some of you but OTOH I hope some of you can relate in a more or less similar perspective.

Just my 2c worth.

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25 Aug 2005, 4:18 pm

One girl tried and failed in my life time...