Aspie female dating NT male... Communication nonexistent.

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11 Mar 2012, 8:31 pm

I've been dating a neurotypical for about two weeks now... I usually wouldn't bother trying to get advice from my fellow aspies for something this new and seemingly unimportant, but I really like this guy and I'd like to find a solution.
I'm what you'd call a "baby" Aspie... In the sense that I'm the type to shut down in intense conversation, and be so emotionally affected I can't see straight. I'm also very, very sensitive. This is where the problems start-- For me, at least.

A quick background on the guy... His name is Brian, he's a 24 year old mechanic/studying to become a psychologist. He reads a lot of books on psychology of conversation (when I say a lot... I mean a lot . He teaches his friends how to pick up chicks with it. Not as bad as it sounds.. >.<). He knows how to manipulate a conversation to go really well, and this has caused him to be too critical of me and my shortcomings. He's lately been telling me about what I do wrong with his friends and I've been feeling belittled. We're both very hardheaded, so finding middle ground is hardly possible, if at all.

He tells me I'm too sensitive and that he's afraid to tell me things for fear of putting me off, with that I know not what to do., I am sensitive, maybe a bit too much and about the wrong things. But I don't know how to move passed it; when to let things go, and when they deem an emotional response.

I'm just wondering if any AS women or NT men dating an aspie could lend me some words of advice/encouragement?
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11 Mar 2012, 8:36 pm

Does He know about your AS? You been seeing Him for 2 weeks. Maybe if He knew about it, He would be more understanding. Escpeciallily if He is studying psyc..

I know when I really like someone, I would tell them about my AS so they could understand me better.



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11 Mar 2012, 8:40 pm

It's over, move on.



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11 Mar 2012, 8:41 pm

He knows about it.. I told him within the first few days, I felt really strongly for him so I told him immediately.


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11 Mar 2012, 8:48 pm

It sounds to me like he may see you as a psychology project & is trying to fix your issues instead of accepting you the way you are


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11 Mar 2012, 8:52 pm

I've asked him to help me get along better in social situations.. He has been taking it too far with his friends, and he sees that.


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11 Mar 2012, 8:55 pm

Learn as much as you can, because this is not the guy you'll end up with.



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11 Mar 2012, 8:57 pm

Agreed with the above ^

If he is studying psychology, and really is a bookworm about them, then give him some books of Aspergers, and Aspie women? Maybe that will help him understand.

But if all he is doing is directing you, then he isn't right for you. A relationship isn't supposed to be a class.

You need to talk to him about this, and see if he can stop.



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11 Mar 2012, 9:13 pm

When I started dating my husband, he'd give me lots of advice on how to behave. We fought about this frequently, and then we put a hard limit of three pieces of advice on behavior every day. That helped a lot.

It also helped when I explained that a lot of things that seemed unacceptable- like ducking out of parties after half an hour- were actually clever adaptations to avoid becoming absolutely miserable. Now that we talk about how important various things are- and now that he knows me a lot better- we can compromise.

My husband is a spectrum friend, so this might not work so well with an NT.



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11 Mar 2012, 9:16 pm

I just don't see why I can't end up with this guy? We share a lot of like interests and opinions about life in general. We get along perfectly.. but arguments are our only weakness. I feel like if I could somehow meet him in the middle and find a way to sift through all of my emotions we could make this a great and long-lasting relationship.


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11 Mar 2012, 9:22 pm

Although you may have mutual agreements and interests, and have fun with him, it does not mean it's the perfect relationship.

If the relationship seems stressful, and more like work rather than a relationship, I suggest taking a break from it if you cannot work things out, then make your final decision.

If I were in your position, and all the person wanted to do was lecture me, I would have lost it and ran out the door very quickly.



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11 Mar 2012, 9:23 pm

Janeric wrote:
When I started dating my husband, he'd give me lots of advice on how to behave. We fought about this frequently, and then we put a hard limit of three pieces of advice on behavior every day. That helped a lot.

It also helped when I explained that a lot of things that seemed unacceptable- like ducking out of parties after half an hour- were actually clever adaptations to avoid becoming absolutely miserable. Now that we talk about how important various things are- and now that he knows me a lot better- we can compromise.

My husband is a spectrum friend, so this might not work so well with an NT.


These are the sort of things I think that we can work with, he and I are both willing to compromise, but we don't know where to begin. The three pieces of advice a day, very good tactic! I'll definitely bring that up to him.
I'm hoping that because he is such a good listener and really does care to know how I feel, that things will improve with good ideas and open minds.


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11 Mar 2012, 9:26 pm

Max, I definitely agree, the relationship did start to feel like a task, and we are taking a break. That's mostly why I'm asking for advice, I'm trying to see a way out of this negative place we've ended up and trying to find a way back to the way things were when we began.

Believe me, I've wanted to run away, but I really like this guy! I'm the type of person to easily become emotionally disconnected, but I'm trying my best not to this time.


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11 Mar 2012, 9:50 pm

I understand.

I think you should have a long discussion about it with him, and tell him why it upsets you, annoys you, irritates you, etc. After that, ask him to stop, and make him promise. Tell him why its bad for the relationship, and that you love him, but want him to stop. Have him understand that you know you have flaws, and are trying your best to improve, but don't want to be lectured about it all the time.

If he agrees, but he doesn't do it, or you see him all crazy trying to restrain himself from lecturing you, then it's best to end the relationship.

It's not really healthy to be dating someone who's trying to be your parent. He may be attractive to you, and awesome, but if he is putting his "parent" hat everytime your together, then it's just not going to work out.



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11 Mar 2012, 10:18 pm

InterLunar wrote:
Max, I definitely agree, the relationship did start to feel like a task, and we are taking a break. That's mostly why I'm asking for advice, I'm trying to see a way out of this negative place we've ended up and trying to find a way back to the way things were when we began.

Believe me, I've wanted to run away, but I really like this guy! I'm the type of person to easily become emotionally disconnected, but I'm trying my best not to this time.


I agree that it's much too soon to give up on the relationship. Relationships, whether between aspies and NTs or between two people who are very similar, are long-term projects. They are always evolving and will never be absolutely perfect. Right now, he's likely at a sort of "fix it" stage. He's a mechanic studying to be a psychiatrist/psychologist. Both fields have that "here's what's wrong, let's fix it" mentality, at least with fledgling psychologists. With time and compromise from both of you, you can get past this, though.

You do need to sit down with him and discuss some limits like those mentioned above. Remember that you did ask him for advice, but now you know that too much advice makes you feel battered. He also needs to take a look at what he thinks are problems and determine whether they really are, or if they are just things that you do that he doesn't. Maybe, also, he's making the mistake of only focusing on the negatives. The two of you could agree that for every piece of advice he gives you to do something differently, he has to come up with a complement to go with it.



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11 Mar 2012, 10:39 pm

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I've been dating a neurotypical for about two weeks now... I usually wouldn't bother trying to get advice from my fellow aspies for something this new and seemingly unimportant, but I really like this guy and I'd like to find a solution.
I'm what you'd call a "baby" Aspie... In the sense that I'm the type to shut down in intense conversation, and be so emotionally affected I can't see straight. I'm also very, very sensitive. This is where the problems start-- For me, at least.

A quick background on the guy... His name is Brian, he's a 24 year old mechanic/studying to become a psychologist. He reads a lot of books on psychology of conversation (when I say a lot... I mean a lot . He teaches his friends how to pick up chicks with it. Not as bad as it sounds.. >.<). He knows how to manipulate a conversation to go really well, and this has caused him to be too critical of me and my shortcomings. He's lately been telling me about what I do wrong with his friends and I've been feeling belittled. We're both very hardheaded, so finding middle ground is hardly possible, if at all.

He tells me I'm too sensitive and that he's afraid to tell me things for fear of putting me off, with that I know not what to do., I am sensitive, maybe a bit too much and about the wrong things. But I don't know how to move passed it; when to let things go, and when they deem an emotional response.

I'm just wondering if any AS women or NT men dating an aspie could lend me some words of advice/encouragement?
Thank you! 8)


I think this situation can be looked at from two different perspectives.
1. Brian is a controlling individual who looks down upon you and is somewhat embarrassed by your lack of social skills.

2. Brian is well intentioned and wants to teach you knowledge about social and conversation skills he has learned that has improved his life and that he thinks will improve your life.

You might try giving him the benefit of the doubt and viewing him as a person you can learn from. Sometimes to grow we have to acknowledge our short comings even when they are pointed out by others.