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15 Oct 2008, 8:10 am

Bsically I had been going out with my boyfriend for a year and he then told me he watches porn. I asked him to stop because it made me feel like i wasnt good enough as he had to watch other people. He said that he doesnt no why he does it but its partly that he pretends its us and he watches it for techniques. He promised to stop and for quite a while he did, then about six months later he wanted to show me a website (about world of warcraft of all things!) and he couldn't remember the address so he went through the history of the websites he had been on and then I saw a porn website. I felt so sad that he had broken a promise. I asked him why he done it but he said he didn't no and he had only done it once about a week before I saw.

I forgave him and he said he would never do it again because he never wanted me to be that upset ever again but i didn't believe him. He baked me a cake and promised he would walk me home from college every day (he hasn't broken that one (yet?)).

Anyway, because i didnt believe him about three weeks later i randomly said i wanted to check the search history of his computer. He then led me to the kitchen, handed me a flapjack and then said he had to go upstairs to get something. i knew that he was just going to get rid of the evidence and i told him this. He then admitteded he had watched it once a couple of days before. I wasn't as sad as last time because in my heart i was expecting this to happen. He told me he would do anything to make it up to me so a few days later I made him buy me some really nice underwear that i wanted :D and he invited me to his house so we could watch a film together. Whilst at his house I said I wanted to see what sort of filth he had been watching and it turns out it was teen porn which made me upset because we are teenagers and it makes me feel inadequate if he feels teh need to watch other teenage girls. So he gave me his wireless adaptor and ethernet cable so he no longer has the internet in his bedroom so he cant watch anymore because he says he doesnt want to. He keeps saying its not to do with me why he done it, there's something wrong with him and he doent no what.

Anyway, i'm not sure if i sould forgive him for this. He broke several promisses and if he really did love me he wouldnt need to give me his cable he would just not watch it. He says he will make it up to me. He buys me banana milkshake a lot 'cos its my favourite and keeps saying i should hate him and he doesnt deserve me. Should i hate him? I want to be with him but it's not good when you think about your boyfriend and feel ill because of what they done.



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15 Oct 2008, 8:28 am

Try to ween him off it. Maybe use some of the techniques used in the porn itself. Watching and becoming obsessinve or getting off to it are different things. Does he avoid giving you affection? If he spends more time with porn than he does with you, that would be a problem.



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15 Oct 2008, 8:30 am

Most guys I know occasionally watch porn. The hormonal urges to reproduce are extremly powerful in guys and they need to releave it by masturbating. It has nothing to do with you. The alternative is that he could go to you for sex whenever he get horny.

Believe me when I say that it is not that you are inadiquite. I mean, if you were, he would have already left you. Since he has not, I think he finds you more than adiquate.

Whether you choose to forgive him or not is not for me to say, but I will say that him looking at porn is not a reflection on you.



15 Oct 2008, 8:32 am

It sounds like he has a porn addiction and can't stop because he feels he has to watch it. So he is trying really hard to stop it sounds like because he gave you his wireless adapter and cable.



It is hard to stop doing something you enjoy because it would be like someone telling you to stop your obsession. It would be hard wouldn't it. It be hard for anyone they enjoy doing. I am sure my dad would have a difficulty time not watching sports and might sneak it too.



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15 Oct 2008, 8:32 am

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Try to ween him off it. Maybe use some of the techniques used in the porn itself. Watching and becoming obsessinve or getting off to it are different things. Does he avoid giving you affection? If he spends more time with porn than he does with you, that would be a problem.


No he gives me lots! He says he's never been aroused by it but I'm not sure if i believe it.



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15 Oct 2008, 8:33 am

I don't know if this helps or not, but here goes ...

I don't personally like porn, but if a girl friend started demanding to see my internet history or started taking my phone to look at who I'd been calling/texting ... that would be (and HAS been) the end of the relationship.

Many men (and women) enjoy porn ... unless he sits there every night with one hand on his joy-stick ... you've nothing to fear, and a lot to lose if you keep pushing him on it.



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15 Oct 2008, 8:45 am

PhR33kY wrote:
Most guys I know occasionally watch porn. The hormonal urges to reproduce are extremly powerful in guys and they need to releave it by masturbating. It has nothing to do with you. The alternative is that he could go to you for sex whenever he get horny.

Believe me when I say that it is not that you are inadiquite. I mean, if you were, he would have already left you. Since he has not, I think he finds you more than adiquate.

Whether you choose to forgive him or not is not for me to say, but I will say that him looking at porn is not a reflection on you.


I think that is what I am most worried about. I just thought it's been hapening because I'm inadequate. I tried to be more sexual but he said I should stop because he liked me better before. But if i'm sexual enough for him already would he have needed porn aswell?



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15 Oct 2008, 8:51 am

Honestly... I think you should learn to let it go, if you can. Accept that most guys - especially teenage guys with computer access - like porn. You say you're teenagers... he's curious and figuring things out. It's normal. Porn is most likely arousing to him, sure. But it's a mechanical kind of arousal, not anything like actually being with someone you care about. He knows this. You should know this. Unless it's interfering with the relationship itself in some way, I don't see why it should be a problem.

And I say this as a girl whose boyfriend also deletes his computer history regularly.



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15 Oct 2008, 8:52 am

I know it sucks that he watches porn, but SO many guys do! I think guys have a higher sex drive than girls and they actually need to release those urges more often than we do.

As far as what he says about watching porn, but imagining it's you, I totally believe that is true. If he feels a really strong urge, and you're not there, maybe he can't relax until he relieves it, and will need visual stimulation (as guys tend to lack in the imagination department) but will get off at the thought of you and him, not him and some random on the screen. I think as long as he does imagine it's you, it certainly means he loves you and no other and you're the only one good enough to arouse him.

I must admit, when I *ahem* (you know what I mean), yeah, at the time I was with my bf, I only *ahemmed* to the thought of him.

I think it does suck that he lied to you about it, and this is not such a good thing. It sucks, but NT guys are liars. They lie. Just like NT girls do. It's what they do. It doesn't mean they don't love you to the full extent of their abilities. I guess you've got to live with the lying. Every NT person I know of in a relationship has lied at some stage about something, and most of the lies are about worse things.

My previous bf lied to me about his girlfriend. While we were into each other, and talking 6 hours a night, etc, I couldn't understand why he didn't just ask me out. I thought he was single, and I think once before he had mumbled that he was single. Finally, I gathered the courage and asked him out. Then he said, yes, he wanted to go out with me, but could I just wait and be patient because he had to sort some things out first. So I said ok, having no idea what it was, and feeling really s**t because he hadn't told me the reason, then on saturday night he was talking to me on msn (again) and he seemed non-communicative and I asked him if he was ok, and he said he'd just broken up with his girlfriend so he could go out with me.

I was upset that he hadn't told me he had a girlfriend, and very upset that he'd (even though we'd never done anything physical) pretty much been mentally cheating on her with me all year, but I loved him too much to say anything, and I just dealt with it. I don't regret our relationship, it was amazing. I accepted that NT guys don't have the same values we aspie girls do, and I've accepted that I have to be open-minded and able to deal with these things if I want to go out with them.


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15 Oct 2008, 9:00 am

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Bsically I had been going out with my boyfriend for a year and he then told me he watches porn. I asked him to stop because it made me feel like i wasnt good enough as he had to watch other people. He said that he doesnt no why he does it but its partly that he pretends its us and he watches it for techniques. He promised to stop and for quite a while he did, then about six months later he wanted to show me a website (about world of warcraft of all things!) and he couldn't remember the address so he went through the history of the websites he had been on and then I saw a porn website. I felt so sad that he had broken a promise. I asked him why he done it but he said he didn't no and he had only done it once about a week before I saw.

I forgave him and he said he would never do it again because he never wanted me to be that upset ever again but i didn't believe him. He baked me a cake and promised he would walk me home from college every day (he hasn't broken that one (yet?)).

Anyway, because i didnt believe him about three weeks later i randomly said i wanted to check the search history of his computer. He then led me to the kitchen, handed me a flapjack and then said he had to go upstairs to get something. i knew that he was just going to get rid of the evidence and i told him this. He then admitteded he had watched it once a couple of days before. I wasn't as sad as last time because in my heart i was expecting this to happen. He told me he would do anything to make it up to me so a few days later I made him buy me some really nice underwear that i wanted :D and he invited me to his house so we could watch a film together. Whilst at his house I said I wanted to see what sort of filth he had been watching and it turns out it was teen porn which made me upset because we are teenagers and it makes me feel inadequate if he feels teh need to watch other teenage girls. So he gave me his wireless adaptor and ethernet cable so he no longer has the internet in his bedroom so he cant watch anymore because he says he doesnt want to. He keeps saying its not to do with me why he done it, there's something wrong with him and he doent no what.

Anyway, i'm not sure if i sould forgive him for this. He broke several promisses and if he really did love me he wouldnt need to give me his cable he would just not watch it. He says he will make it up to me. He buys me banana milkshake a lot 'cos its my favourite and keeps saying i should hate him and he doesnt deserve me. Should i hate him? I want to be with him but it's not good when you think about your boyfriend and feel ill because of what they done.



His addiction to porn has little to do with you, it was something he was doing before he met you, right? I notice you use his guilt about porn to get what you want (i.e. lingerie) and are not above needling him about his guilt to get banana milk shakes and generally have the upper hand. The dynamic is that you are 'pure' and he is 'bad' and you don't mind exploiting that dynamic. So you might want to look to see what type of person YOU are too.
Perhaps you both should see that it is a game you play, for if he really cared, he would clean up his tracks so you would know nothing. He is either sloppy, or likes to feel guilty and gets a sexual charge from you being so upset. Notice you exploit that guilt for your own gain while keeping it a club over his head so you can beat him with it.
If you really don't want to play that game, that is what you need to come to terms with. If that works for you both, then I think you both deserve each other.

been there and done that.


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15 Oct 2008, 9:01 am

I don't mean to come off rude either... now do I? :twisted:

If he really does have an addiction to porn, by all means, continue to help him get off of it. He's trying, though. I don't think you want to make him feel like a failure. I to, doubt it has anything to do with you being "inadequate". I have tried erotic books and porn recently this year myself, and I do support the fact that it releaves alot of horny feelings. And yes, I do think boys have more 'horny' than we do. Now, I doubt he wants to be horny to the point that he hurts you or literaly screws the relationship.



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15 Oct 2008, 9:10 am

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His addiction to porn has little to do with you, it was something he was doing before he met you, right? I notice you use his guilt about porn to get what you want (i.e. lingerie) and are not above needling him about his guilt to get banana milk shakes and generally have the upper hand. The dynamic is that you are 'pure' and he is 'bad' and you don't mind exploiting that dynamic. So you might want to look to see what type of person YOU are too.
Perhaps you both should see that it is a game you play, for if he really cared, he would clean up his tracks so you would know nothing. He is either sloppy, or likes to feel guilty and gets a sexual charge from you being so upset. Notice you exploit that guilt for your own gain while keeping it a club over his head so you can beat him with it.
If you really don't want to play that game, that is what you need to come to terms with. If that works for you both, then I think you both deserve each other.

been there and done that.


Merle


It was his idea to buy me presents to make up for it. I think maybe i exploited it a bit but I just wanted to see how far he'd go to make up in order to see how much he cares.



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15 Oct 2008, 9:20 am

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I don't mean to come off rude either... now do I? :twisted:

If he really does have an addiction to porn, by all means, continue to help him get off of it. He's trying, though. I don't think you want to make him feel like a failure. I to, doubt it has anything to do with you being "inadequate". I have tried erotic books and porn recently this year myself, and I do support the fact that it releaves alot of horny feelings. And yes, I do think boys have more 'horny' than we do. Now, I doubt he wants to be horny to the point that he hurts you or literaly screws the relationship.


I suppose he is trying his best. I dont think he would have willingly given me his cable if he didnt care about me. It took him ages to convince his parents to let him have internet in his room.



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15 Oct 2008, 9:27 am

Estafwyn wrote:
It was his idea to buy me presents to make up for it. I think maybe i exploited it a bit but I just wanted to see how far he'd go to make up in order to see how much he cares.


Are you an aspie? That sounds like a very NT thing to do. I never even thought of it that way when I read your post. 8O


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15 Oct 2008, 9:34 am

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Estafwyn wrote:
It was his idea to buy me presents to make up for it. I think maybe i exploited it a bit but I just wanted to see how far he'd go to make up in order to see how much he cares.


Are you an aspie? That sounds like a very NT thing to do. I never even thought of it that way when I read your post. 8O


I have issues trusting people. I wanted to know he wasn't lying when he said he does love me and care about me. It was his idea to buy me stuff though.



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15 Oct 2008, 9:35 am

Estafwyn wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
His addiction to porn has little to do with you, it was something he was doing before he met you, right? I notice you use his guilt about porn to get what you want (i.e. lingerie) and are not above needling him about his guilt to get banana milk shakes and generally have the upper hand. The dynamic is that you are 'pure' and he is 'bad' and you don't mind exploiting that dynamic. So you might want to look to see what type of person YOU are too.
Perhaps you both should see that it is a game you play, for if he really cared, he would clean up his tracks so you would know nothing. He is either sloppy, or likes to feel guilty and gets a sexual charge from you being so upset. Notice you exploit that guilt for your own gain while keeping it a club over his head so you can beat him with it.
If you really don't want to play that game, that is what you need to come to terms with. If that works for you both, then I think you both deserve each other.

been there and done that.


Merle


It was his idea to buy me presents to make up for it. I think maybe i exploited it a bit but I just wanted to see how far he'd go to make up in order to see how much he cares.


and maybe he is seeing how far he can go before you call the whole thing off. Perhaps his constant slipping back into it is to get you more used to it, and after a while is is not seen to be such a big deal anymore.
I have watched addiction (and been addicted) and found no one can get another person off their addiction and no one can get off their addiction for another. They have to want to, for themselves.


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