Nice guys REALLY DO finish last.

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*waving arms* Right here! *whistle* Over here! Yeah! Here! Over here!!


(Not specifically aimed at you - I'm really just saying I think I'm a great fella' and would like to be snagged up by someone!)

I love the reccuring theme in this section that all women are the same. /sarcasm.

I've gone out with douchebags who I thought were nice guys. I am now with a genuinely nice guy and we are engaged.

Having said that, I do not claim to understand any other members of my gender, and cannot speak for them.

I am a nice guy.

And though it would cause me great pain to never find someone I can be in a mutually loving life-long relationship....

I would at least finish life with a clean conscience.

It's just so much more practical to speak in terms of "These are characteristics that a majority of women you encounter will share" as opposed to having approximately 4 billion post a'la "This is what characterizes Indira Raja from Punjab India" and "These are the characteristics of Barbara Horton, Pasadena California". All men aren't the same either, but its easier to deal with commonalities in order expedite processes. For instance a majority of western men one encounters will tend to favor women that are deemed physically attractive by their social group, of course there are additional variables but the point stands. Not to mention, can you imagine the insurmountable amount of data we would have to process?

It made me laugh...it'd be nice if the nice guys would do that out here in real life land though! If that's you in your profile pic you shouldn't have a problem

The decent men?
I kidnap them and add them to my harem.

Amen!

Last edited by Kjas on 18 Sep 2012, 7:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

This is true, I am currently posting from it

How do I get in?

I have no idea how it happened but it involved a scuffle in an alleyway, having a black bag thrown over my head then spending hours locked in the cargo hold of an aircraft, after which I was delivered to this unspecified location and allowed one cookie

I originally wrote a long reply in which I explained human nature in depth, however as I've come to realize people probably do not take the time to read such things, I'll summarize.

1. A large number of people over the age of 27 are married and most of those married men are not jerks. They're normal people (unlike you and I).

2. Many individuals who consider themselves nice people and think they finish last because of it, and who actually are nice people, are not just nice but unreasonably nice because they don't know how and when to set boundaries, or are afraid to, and they wrongfully attempt to use nice as an over valued currency that only they over value. This often backfires for various reasons which I will explain if you wish.

3. There are some individuals who consider themselves nice who are not actually nice. These individuals also try to use being nice as a currency, however unlike the inherently nice person, when they feel they don't get what they've "paid" for, and thus "deserve", they become hateful and bitter.

4. Unreasonably nice people not only have a distorted sense of what nice actually is, but they also have a distorted sense of what "not nice" actually is, and often consider others not as "nice" as them as being jerks, when they are actually just setting reasonable boundaries. Believe it or not, there are many instances where it's ok for a man to say no to, or be mad at his girlfriend or wife, provided he is not abusive.

5. When a man is too submissive or eager to please in a relationship, it often stresses women. There are various reasons for this which I will explain if you wish.

If you had to make it a point that you are always extremely careful not to offend women then you are probably putting too much effort into that. I would focus on not being so eager to please. Value yourself enough that you can feel ok if someone doesn't accept you because you are a human being with boundaries and standards. Focus on treating women like normal human beings you can relax around rather than supernatural deities you have to walk on egg shells around for fear you might offend them. That doesn't mean you are free to say anything of course. Anything pertaining to sex should generally be avoided in most situations. Generally speaking, if you wouldn't say it to your grandmother, mother, or in a professional environment, don't say it to a woman. For example, it might be acceptable to say to a woman "You know, you have really pretty eyes," but it would not be acceptable to say "I like your breasts, are they real?" However it should not take much effort to figure that out.

Is it possible that they weren't intentionally taking advantage of you but you were not communicating your boundaries to them and expecting them to just know where they were?
People don't know your limits, needs, or expectations, or terms, unless you communicate them.

That's a fairly healthy perspective.

I didn't kidnap you.
They were wearing masks when they delievered you, a third party must have a hand in this.

Since the Vigilans is it's own species, I decided long ago that it should roam freely of it's own accord - you know, free will and all.
(Plus I felt sorry for you since you had been captured and owned so many times previously )
I don't want you here if you don't want to be here!
Take your cookie and go!

I am very hard to catch and very elusive so elusive almost thought to be classified as a mythical creature. Sitings have been found but very few and far in between. Traps have been planted but to no avail I have disarmed them and eluded them time and time again.Chances of capturing bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster are more likely than I.

Its a bit complicated.
I had a past of being abused by several class mates(guidance counselor office was suggested at age 6 because I turned against those that had done something against me and they thought I might need some help... things didnt improve until I was 14)

I did manage to eventually sort things out with this people but this means that I can freak out inside whenever someone does something similar to what happened during this ages.

That said I tend to overlook this things unless they start piling up.
And when they do pile up I talk to them about my problem(I know that its a problem I have and Im not afraid of admitting it to people that may be worth it(you have to take some risks in life I guess))
So far I only recall two groups of people that I avoid and I tried my best to sort things out with both:
-Group of "though guys" at university that somehow approached me on the first day of class but after a week they noticed I dont really talk about girls that much so I had to hear gay jokes most of the time.
I told them to stop several times and they wouldnt listen.
-Group of friends from early childhood that began to blame me for anything that happened. Now I know that Im not perfect but when things go so far Im expected to put up with drunk people that joke about past accidents while I ask them to behave in my car because they are drunk/distracting me who then hide my keys for several hours in the middle of the street and blame me whenever somebody came up.
I believe its time to move on to something more suitable for me.

Aw..leave some for the rest of us