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14 Jan 2013, 4:32 pm

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Well being on the Autistic Spectrum means I often have a feeling of solidarity with other people on it, especially those I consider more vulnerable than me and also I thought saying a person with Autism was 'clueless' where dating was concerned was like blaming a blind person for bumping into things ie how was he ever likely to be brilliant at it?? He wouldn't be on the programme if he was!


I said he was clueless. Whether you consider this a blame or not is your problem. You're still attributing wrong motives to me.

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We call it 'Stating the bleeding obvious' in my country, I don't know whether you have the same concept where you come from?


Yeah, stating the obvious. That's it. He was clueless about dating.

Now get over it.


Calling someone clueless sounds pretty insulting to me - the typical sort of thing an NT would say, which is why it grinds my gears when I'm on an Asperger site, whether the person saying it has AS or not.

Same with 'get over it' - aggression again

Don't tell me what to do on my own thread either


This isn't an AS vs NT thingy.

This forum isn't exactly like the part of the world where you live. And people here don't share the same experiences and attitudes as you do. So try to accept that. And you'll be fine.


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14 Jan 2013, 4:32 pm

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thinking of users i've had to ban..... you're still making a big leap - people may make nasty posts and act like rotten b*****s or misogynistic dicks on the forum, for example, but that doesn't make them bad people. there is a massive distinction there. posts on the forum do not make up the entire person.

Well, then you have your opinion and I have mine.
Why is this minor point of "bad person" so important to you? I imagine there's a pretty significant story there... willing to share?

no, you're just showing an inability to differentiate between a person's posts on a forum and their actual real-life total and complete self. it's highly judgemental and it explains a lot of your recent behaviour on the forum. i am glad to be aware of this.


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14 Jan 2013, 4:32 pm

nessa238 wrote:
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Well being on the Autistic Spectrum means I often have a feeling of solidarity with other people on it, especially those I consider more vulnerable than me and also I thought saying a person with Autism was 'clueless' where dating was concerned was like blaming a blind person for bumping into things ie how was he ever likely to be brilliant at it?? He wouldn't be on the programme if he was!


I said he was clueless. Whether you consider this a blame or not is your problem. You're still attributing wrong motives to me.

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We call it 'Stating the bleeding obvious' in my country, I don't know whether you have the same concept where you come from?


Yeah, stating the obvious. That's it. He was clueless about dating.

Now get over it.


Calling someone clueless sounds pretty insulting to me - the typical sort of thing an NT would say, which is why it grinds my gears when I'm on an Asperger site, whether the person saying it has AS or not.

Same with 'get over it' - aggression again

Don't tell me what to do on my own thread either


This isn't an AS vs NT thingy.

This forum isn't exactly like the part of the world where you live. And people here don't share the same experiences and attitudes as you do. So try to accept that. And you'll be fine.


Thanks for that Mr Patronising


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14 Jan 2013, 4:33 pm

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thinking of users i've had to ban..... you're still making a big leap - people may make nasty posts and act like rotten b*****s or misogynistic dicks on the forum, for example, but that doesn't make them bad people. there is a massive distinction there. posts on the forum do not make up the entire person.

Well, then you have your opinion and I have mine.
Why is this minor point of "bad person" so important to you? I imagine there's a pretty significant story there... willing to share?

no, you're just showing an inability to differentiate between a person's posts on a forum and their actual real-life total and complete self. it's highly judgemental and it explains a lot of your recent behaviour on the forum. i am glad to be aware of this.

Whoa.... look who's talking! :? Way to make this good and personal!



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14 Jan 2013, 4:42 pm

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thinking of users i've had to ban..... you're still making a big leap - people may make nasty posts and act like rotten b*****s or misogynistic dicks on the forum, for example, but that doesn't make them bad people. there is a massive distinction there. posts on the forum do not make up the entire person.

Well, then you have your opinion and I have mine.
Why is this minor point of "bad person" so important to you? I imagine there's a pretty significant story there... willing to share?

no, you're just showing an inability to differentiate between a person's posts on a forum and their actual real-life total and complete self. it's highly judgemental and it explains a lot of your recent behaviour on the forum. i am glad to be aware of this.

Whoa.... look who's talking! :? Way to make this good and personal!

i just mean that if someone makes you mad, you may be mad at the person behind the post instead of the post itself. but sometimes people are more than the sum of their posts - they have good days and bad days. we are all good and bad sometimes, sort of a mixture.


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14 Jan 2013, 4:48 pm

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i just mean that if someone makes you mad, you may be mad at the person behind the post instead of the post itself. but sometimes people are more than the sum of their posts - they have good days and bad days. we are all good and bad sometimes, sort of a mixture.

Understandable - which is why you factor time into the equation. Someone who posts the same hate of something six months in a row probably really hates that thing in real life.
You may not believe there's a line someone can cross that classifies them as a genuinely "bad person" - I do. I can't cite any examples though because they've been banned for that kind of hate-speech long before I could make any real opinion!



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14 Jan 2013, 4:54 pm

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i just mean that if someone makes you mad, you may be mad at the person behind the post instead of the post itself. but sometimes people are more than the sum of their posts - they have good days and bad days. we are all good and bad sometimes, sort of a mixture.

Understandable - which is why you factor time into the equation. Someone who posts the same hate of something six months in a row probably really hates that thing in real life.
You may not believe there's a line someone can cross that classifies them as a genuinely "bad person" - I do. I can't cite any examples though because they've been banned for that kind of hate-speech long before I could make any real opinion!

oh ok. i see. i tend to think most people who spout hate speech do it to make an impact/troll.

anyways, sorry to go off track OP.


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15 Jan 2013, 10:33 pm

Right, I was out last night (and sleeping off the river of lager I drank) so I wasn't immediately able to download the programme. However, it is downloading now and will be up when it's up.



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15 Jan 2013, 10:43 pm

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so when does the next episode air?


Tomorrow at 9.00pm

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the- ... e/series-2


I haven't seen this yet, but I definitely wouldn't mind that dwarf doing that 'party trick' she mentioned in Episode 1. I guess I'm simply a twisted SOB. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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So? He was clueless about dating. That was the point of his presence in that episode.


He annoyed me, to be honest. The same is true (although far more so) of that absolute moron - Richard, I think his name was - in Series 1. He so just wanted his mum as his girlfriend instead.

I thought the guy with Tourette's was absolutely lovely though, if I'm honest. A very attractive man with a great sense of humour and a lot of self-awareness (in fact, he no doubt possesses more self-awareness than I do).

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^^^ That and it's plainly evident here on WP that just because someone has Aspergers/Autism, it doesn't change the fact we're all completely different people with random personality traits. Aspie or not, there's going to be good people and rotten people, those we like and those we don't.


Can't disagree with that. I've met people with Asperger's who I wanted to brutally murder and stick in a meat grinder, they annoyed me so much but by the same token, I've met some absolutely lovely, brilliant people with Asperger's too. Generally, I've met more good people than bad.

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What stance are you trying to take - that all are inherently good people despite posting a constant stream of hate?


No-one is inherently good or inherently bad. We're all just people - imperfect creatures, really.



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16 Jan 2013, 12:08 am

Here you go, as promised:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r48JqpovWWo[/youtube](This isn't in HD and, again, it won't be available to people living in the British Islands and Ireland.)



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16 Jan 2013, 9:29 am

"It could be some sixty-year-old Nigerian sex killer." I just laughed so loudly in reaction to that my dog sprung off the bed and looked rather startled. This show is fantastic and I've only watched a few minutes. Thank you, Tequila!


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16 Jan 2013, 11:57 am

Tequila wrote:
Here you go, as promised:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r48JqpovWWo[/youtube](This isn't in HD and, again, it won't be available to people living in the British Islands and Ireland.)


Thanks for this :D



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16 Jan 2013, 11:59 am

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"It could be some sixty-year-old Nigerian sex killer." I just laughed so loudly in reaction to that my dog sprung off the bed and looked rather startled. This show is fantastic and I've only watched a few minutes. Thank you, Tequila!


I was glad that Ray decided to continue seeing Jeanette(?)



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16 Jan 2013, 2:53 pm

Steve is NT? I hope she doesn't take advantage of him. I was puzzled when she said looks doesn't matter but she had a ton of make-up on?
I thought that Ray guy was like a genuinely a nice guy. I would imagine that it would be possible to have small conversations with him, like the guy you meet everyday at the station or lunch time etc.



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16 Jan 2013, 6:57 pm

One of the people on there isn't an 'undateable'. I actually messages her on Plenty Of fish but never got a response. The really wired thing is after that I saw her at the Olympic Park. And when I say saw I mean we walked right past one another (she noticed me as well). That was an awkward moment.


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16 Jan 2013, 6:59 pm

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One of the people on there isn't an 'undateable'. I actually messages her on Plenty Of fish but never got a response. The really wired thing is after that I saw her at the Olympic Park. And when I say saw I mean we walked right past one another (she noticed me as well). That was an awkward moment.


Which one??