Do we have a chance at dating the really attractive ones?

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Not for me. I love girls who look like this. Yes I know it's unhealthy.

Sly is actually about 6 foot 3 or 4.

I'm about 5 foot 5, and weigh about 190 lbs.

going back to the original question.
i think aspies come in all shapes and sizes and in fact even i know of one or two who are
super skinny and tasty
although i have to admit that the reason why they are so
is because they are not so well
and this is an area that probably needs to be addressed

still, they are very cute, although too young for me...
my ex-wife was anorexic when i met her

i got her to eat properly which likely saved her life
to repay me she...decided to ruin my life with slander...
that's the thing when it comes to people who are ill
they sometimes really are mad and capable of much sadism
even to the only person on the planet that cared enough to save their life

once saved
people quickly forget
bit like saving a poisonous snake from dying in a pit
once saved
the snake may forget quick that you saved it
and will turn around and bite you in the throat
ironic i guess
but this is the cycle
of life and death
you got to handle woman with care and at times keep at arms length
especially if you are an aspo and do not lie. slander, manipulate etc.
as you do not have the defences normal men have through the power of bull s**t

That girl looks ludicrously skinny, RetroGamer.

If she was a nice person as well, I might like her. If not, then I wouldn't want to date her.

Yeah, it's reasons like this that I don't want to date girls with mental health problems. I have this friend that I used to be interested in romantically. Not any more. I don't think she would try to slander me. She's not aggressive or malevolent. But she is extremely apathetic.

I believe her depression makes her apathetic. She seems to be about ten times as depressed as I am. THe reason why I wouldn't want to date her is because she doesn't even care about basic things. I don't think she'd be able to look after herself and I wouldn't want to be her babysitter.

Not that she's not intelligent enough to look after herself, it's that she literally doesn't care about anything including herself.

I'm trying to teach her how to drive because I want to advance her life. Driving with someone with a history of suicide attempts is scary. Just an hour ago she nearly got us killed when she tried to merge into a car that was travelling at a much higher speed without checking her mirrors. I yelled at her but she just laughed about it because she doesn't her own life.

She doesn't listen. She really doesn't listen. I told her to turn. She ends up turning onto the wrong road. Easy mistake to make. I tell her to turn around and she just keeps driving down it. Driving down the wrong road. I ask her were she's going. She says she doesn't know and doesn't care. She really means that. She really doesn't care were she goes.

She doesn't listen to me when I tell her not to smoke in my car. (now it's my mum's car because I sold it to her but I still use it occasionally). I really hate the smell of cigarettes. She seems to be incapable of sticking to a schedule. She adds unnecessary stops. She tried to give her sister's exboyfriend a lift but he took 45 minutes to get ready because he's unaccustomed to waking up before noon.

I could go on but I don't want to derail the thread. I love perfectly smooth soft skin. She doesn't have smooth skin. Not anymore. She has hundreds of self-harm scars. Why would she do that? I've experienced depression but cutting your own skin does not make sense. If I had scars like that I wouldn't be wearing a short sleeve shirt.

She seemed to be better before she dropped out of uni. It makes sense because back when I was unemployed I went through my own low energy apathetic phase. I used to sleep 'till noon and then I'd still be really groggy until about 4PM. Even getting up to make a cup of instant coffee seemed like too much effort. I had almost no energy because I never did anything that required energy. I think if she got a job or went back to university it would improve her mental health. It seems like she has no goal in her life.

It makes me sad because she used to be quite intelligent. Sorry for the long rant but I wouldn't date a girl who's mental health problems make her unable to look after herself. I know it's not her fault but I don't want to be drawn into that world.

I wouldn't date a girl who doesn't value her own life. I wouldn't date a girl who doesn't try to improve her life. I've heard girls say they want to date a guy without plan or direction in their lives. I don't blame them. I'm the same. I wouldn't want to date a girl without drive and direction.

She's still f*****g smoking on me!! ! It makes my eyes and nose hurt! She can't stop because she's addicted. She knew if she started she'd get addicted but she started anyway. It's like she has no free will when it comes to whether or not she smokes. Why would anyone do something that causes their free will to disappear.

Her attitude towards life is resignation. She says she can't quit. My grandfather quit back in the 70s. I think she shouldn't have started in the first place. I didn't start. It's very easy not to start because you literally don't have to do anything.

She said the first time she tried one it tasted bad and burned her lungs. In that case why did she ever have a second one? She says she needs them for stress relief but really it's just that withdrawal symptoms give her extra stress. Smoking just puts her back to the baseline level of stress she'd have if she'd never started.

She never has any money. Probably because she spends it all on cigarettes. I think cigarettes should be taxed even more heavily until she can't afford them.

People who smoke in public should be shot and then buried in a mass grave! It's bad enough they want to poison their own bodies, why do they want to poison mine as well? I didn't ask for that.

People who smoke should be cut off from medicare and banned from receiving cancer treatment. If we waste medical resources on saving their sorry lives they'll just go back to smoking again and get cancer again.

I don't see the appeal in someone that grotesquely thin. That's not even skinny. Skinny is having a small bone structure along with a low but healthy body fat percentage. The girl in your picture is just anorexic.

I completely agree and know exactly how you feel RetroGamer.

I have moderate to severe depression and I've still never given up or stopped caring about life.

I really do not understand the severely depressed who engage in unhealthy behaviors that further ruin their mental health (drug abuse, etc.) and physical health (eating disorders, cutting, etc.).

I know for a fact it makes the depression worse.

It all only makes the problem worse, but I guess once people become severely depressed they become irrational.

I've heard people tell me they starve themselves to lose weight or cut because it helps them feel 'more control' over their life because they lack it so much.

I have the opposite view. It takes self-control to resist those things, and it takes far more self-control to try and improve your life the right way.

It takes more self-control to eat healthy and exercise to lose weight the right way than to simply starve yourself.

Starving yourself might be difficult to choose not to eat, but I find it's much more harder to actually choose to eat.

I have actually had no appetite/felt like not eating when depressed, and know for a fact, at least for me, it's harder to force yourself to eat than the other way round.

I just don't want to date a depressed girl who can't take care of her physical and mental health as I do.

Even at my very worst, I do not self-harm, I do not abuse substances, I've never used any, I'm not an alcoholic, I've never even been fully drunk except a little buzzed/tipsy, I don't under or oversleep, I care about my health and hygiene, I don't under or overeat, I don't even eat unhealthy that much but a mostly healthy diet, I get good rest, I exercise, I take over-the-counter supplements in low, healthy doses a few days a week to 'improve mental performance, reduce fatigue, reduce anxiety/depression, improve memory, relieve stress and anxiety'. I take sleeping pills for the insomnia, whenever I get even the slightest hint of a suicidal thought, which is rare as I've trained myself to almost never have them, I quickly and immediately get them out of my head. I don't dwell on it, ever.

I do wallow in self-pity, hopelessness and misery, it makes me cope, but it takes a lot of mental willpower to resist suicidal/self-harming/substance abusing/etc., let alone actually physically carry out, self-destructive behaviors.

I can only see self-destructive types as quitters, at least that's how I'd see myself if I ever went down that path.

Because it means I gave up on the idea of resisting that stuff. I surrendered.

I still take care of myself, I desire the same in a girl.

Indeed, agreed.

Everyone has a preference as far as body type goes but health should be a priority. I am plus sized but I'm not severely overweight. No body is perfect. I think some expectations are very unrealistic.

I am losing weight but I'm not doing it to be skinny. Some women are not designed to be as thin as the woman in the photo including me. Still, everyone has a preference.

That's ok. I like women who are naturally thin but if you're a natural endomorph I don't expect you to ever look like the woman in the photo.

It's good that you're losing weight for your health. Your health doesn't need you to be thin. It is definitely possible to be healthy while you are curvy (not obese but slightly chubby). If you get down to curvy there's no health benefit to going down lower. Some women do it for aesthetic reasons (particularly actresses, ballet dancers or figure skaters) but even so, you will never be able to compete with naturally thin women so it's probably better for you to focus on health instead.

I can be attracted to curvy women. For me thin represents the ideal, it is not a necessity. I'd still be much more attracted to a curvy woman than an obese women, not only because of the way they look, not only because of the obvious health implications (e.g. some obese people have obvious joint pain when they walk) but more than anything because I wouldn't want to date a woman who doesn't care about herself.

As I said before I don't want to date a woman who's given up on her own life, that includes her health.

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I didn't think you were nagging me. I agree that everyone has a preference and the woman in the photo is repulsive to the majority of men. They're entitled to their preference too.

I think her slender body is a work of fine art but I'm still attracted to women of average weight.

Part of the reason why I like thin girls is because they make it possible to try certain sex positions that involve supporting the woman off the ground. I can lift 60 kg in a pinch but I'm more comfortable with 50 or less.

Exactly! With my ex, there were certain behaviours she engaged in that made her mental health problems worse and she knew they would make them worse yet she still did them.

I don't blame her one bit for her mental health problems but I do blame her for not putting any effort into her recovery.

There's no psychiatrist in the world who can treat a patient who's not willing to aid in their own recovery. It requires effort from both of them.

She doesn't actually look anorexic to me. Maybe its cause I can't see her arms but she doesn't look unhealthy to me. She doesn't have like a sunken in tummy or anything.

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I understand you fustration with smoking after all 75% of all lung cancers are due to smoking and they are harder to treat because they have thousands of more mutations that naturally occuring cancer.

My god, I'm surprised that girl still has any hair left at that weight. When you get that thin, usually your hair starts to fall out. Maybe she's wearing a wig.

Either way, it's not a good look. For anyone. She looks like an Auschwitz survivor.