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19 Jun 2020, 3:15 pm

LunaticCentruroides wrote:
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You're obviously very good looking and have very little difficulty with getting romantic and sexual interest.

Trust me when I say that a lot of people envy your position and would kill to be better looking and be romantically and sexually desired by someone, and I ain't making this crap up either.

There's a lot of people out there, especially young autistic men, who are in romantic poverty, who have very little opportunities in terms of romance. You complain about having too much romantic interest; well there's people out there who have never had anybody attracted to them, and they would KILL to know what it's like to be wanted and desired by someone!

You think you have it bad? Try being on the other side...


Hey, I can absolutely undetstand what you mean and I know exactly how they feel. I know many men with AS and they have huge difficulties with that. Many times I was really happy to have this privilege, but after all I see how superficial it actually is. It's empty, without any perspective for any sustainable connection. If it's just about my looks, I don't want it.
And you know, I've been on the complete other side as you describe. I was literally the most unwanted girl at school, the looser. Until I was 18 I was extremely scared that there's never gonna be a guy that would want me. I went from one extreme to the other. So I'm not here to complain around and it's not about any comparison.


I’m 33 and still never going have a woman want me :cry: life’s over for me.


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19 Jun 2020, 3:25 pm

^I'm 29, and I've STILL never been in a relationship.

But I still have to hope on keeping finding someone compatible, I guess....


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19 Jun 2020, 4:39 pm

LunaticCentruroides wrote:
Muse933277 wrote:
You're obviously very good looking and have very little difficulty with getting romantic and sexual interest.

Trust me when I say that a lot of people envy your position and would kill to be better looking and be romantically and sexually desired by someone, and I ain't making this crap up either.

There's a lot of people out there, especially young autistic men, who are in romantic poverty, who have very little opportunities in terms of romance. You complain about having too much romantic interest; well there's people out there who have never had anybody attracted to them, and they would KILL to know what it's like to be wanted and desired by someone!

You think you have it bad? Try being on the other side...


Hey, I can absolutely undetstand what you mean and I know exactly how they feel. I know many men with AS and they have huge difficulties with that. Many times I was really happy to have this privilege, but after all I see how superficial it actually is. It's empty, without any perspective for any sustainable connection. If it's just about my looks, I don't want it.
And you know, I've been on the complete other side as you describe. I was literally the most unwanted girl at school, the looser. Until I was 18 I was extremely scared that there's never gonna be a guy that would want me. I went from one extreme to the other. So I'm not here to complain around and it's not about any comparison.


Don't feel bad about it, the grass is always greener on the other side. People who never had the experience of not being able to connect with others because they're seen from the start as objects of desire, just won't understand how isolated you feel.

All I can say about your situation is that it will get slowly better with age (not implying you'll lose your looks, but (some) men your age will (hopefully) mature a bit) and the most important part: if you can, avoid small, conformist places and look for outliers, eccentrics and unconventional people, they make the best friends and partners for people on the spectrum anyway.


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19 Jun 2020, 5:18 pm

Muse933277 wrote:
You're obviously very good looking and have very little difficulty with getting romantic and sexual interest.

Trust me when I say that a lot of people envy your position and would kill to be better looking and be romantically and sexually desired by someone, and I ain't making this crap up either.

There's a lot of people out there, especially young autistic men, who are in romantic poverty, who have very little opportunities in terms of romance. You complain about having too much romantic interest; well there's people out there who have never had anybody attracted to them, and they would KILL to know what it's like to be wanted and desired by someone!

You think you have it bad? Try being on the other side...


I'm a dud. I don't get any interest, but I can absolutely see how annoying it would be to be only evaluated for your looks when you want a deeper connection with people.

I've lost male friends after they decided they weren't sexually interested in me. To tyemhat meant we weren't friends anymore because they didn't have any reason to have to talk to me anymore. I've wanted to be just friends with guys who've kept me at arm's length because I wasn't attractive enough to be a girlfriend and they had no interest in having female friends.

It sucks because I prefer male company sometimes. The conversation is different with men. They often like similar music to me. Women don't like my taste in music and don't want to go to gigs with me.



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19 Jun 2020, 6:41 pm

UncannyDanny wrote:
^I'm 29, and I've STILL never been in a relationship.

But I still have to hope on keeping finding someone compatible, I guess....

I’m on disability and work 12 hours a week . I’m not seen as worthy of women’s love.


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19 Jun 2020, 11:01 pm

LunaticCentruroides wrote:
Muse933277 wrote:
You're obviously very good looking and have very little difficulty with getting romantic and sexual interest.

Trust me when I say that a lot of people envy your position and would kill to be better looking and be romantically and sexually desired by someone, and I ain't making this crap up either.

There's a lot of people out there, especially young autistic men, who are in romantic poverty, who have very little opportunities in terms of romance. You complain about having too much romantic interest; well there's people out there who have never had anybody attracted to them, and they would KILL to know what it's like to be wanted and desired by someone!

You think you have it bad? Try being on the other side...


Hey, I can absolutely undetstand what you mean and I know exactly how they feel. I know many men with AS and they have huge difficulties with that. Many times I was really happy to have this privilege, but after all I see how superficial it actually is. It's empty, without any perspective for any sustainable connection. If it's just about my looks, I don't want it.
And you know, I've been on the complete other side as you describe. I was literally the most unwanted girl at school, the looser. Until I was 18 I was extremely scared that there's never gonna be a guy that would want me. I went from one extreme to the other. So I'm not here to complain around and it's not about any comparison.


I hope he isn't getting you down.
You are one of the more interesting people we have come across.
We don't want to lose your contributions to this website. :wink:



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19 Jun 2020, 11:06 pm

sly279 wrote:
LunaticCentruroides wrote:
Muse933277 wrote:
You're obviously very good looking and have very little difficulty with getting romantic and sexual interest.

Trust me when I say that a lot of people envy your position and would kill to be better looking and be romantically and sexually desired by someone, and I ain't making this crap up either.

There's a lot of people out there, especially young autistic men, who are in romantic poverty, who have very little opportunities in terms of romance. You complain about having too much romantic interest; well there's people out there who have never had anybody attracted to them, and they would KILL to know what it's like to be wanted and desired by someone!

You think you have it bad? Try being on the other side...


Hey, I can absolutely undetstand what you mean and I know exactly how they feel. I know many men with AS and they have huge difficulties with that. Many times I was really happy to have this privilege, but after all I see how superficial it actually is. It's empty, without any perspective for any sustainable connection. If it's just about my looks, I don't want it.
And you know, I've been on the complete other side as you describe. I was literally the most unwanted girl at school, the looser. Until I was 18 I was extremely scared that there's never gonna be a guy that would want me. I went from one extreme to the other. So I'm not here to complain around and it's not about any comparison.


I’m 33 and still never going have a woman want me :cry: life’s over for me.


I think you need to change your attitude to something more positive.
What you are projecting isn't attractive to most of the opposite sex.

There is life beyond a significant-other relationship.
Invest in the joys of self-discovery and self-actualisation. :wink:



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19 Jun 2020, 11:13 pm

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Don't feel bad about it, the grass is always greener on the other side. People who never had the experience of not being able to connect with others because they're seen from the start as objects of desire, just won't understand how isolated you feel.


Yup:
"The arse is always cleaner on the other side of the great divide." :mrgreen:

BenderRodriguez wrote:
All I can say about your situation is that it will get slowly better with age (not implying you'll lose your looks, but (some) men your age will (hopefully) mature a bit) and the most important part: if you can, avoid small, conformist places and look for outliers, eccentrics and unconventional people, they make the best friends and partners for people on the spectrum anyway.


My suggestion would be for LC to look at men older than herself, with more maturity,
And, no, I am not talking about males over 60. :wink:



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19 Jun 2020, 11:29 pm

hurtloam wrote:
Muse933277 wrote:
You're obviously very good looking and have very little difficulty with getting romantic and sexual interest.

Trust me when I say that a lot of people envy your position and would kill to be better looking and be romantically and sexually desired by someone, and I ain't making this crap up either.

There's a lot of people out there, especially young autistic men, who are in romantic poverty, who have very little opportunities in terms of romance. You complain about having too much romantic interest; well there's people out there who have never had anybody attracted to them, and they would KILL to know what it's like to be wanted and desired by someone!

You think you have it bad? Try being on the other side...


I'm a dud. I don't get any interest, but I can absolutely see how annoying it would be to be only evaluated for your looks when you want a deeper connection with people.

I've lost male friends after they decided they weren't sexually interested in me. To tyemhat meant we weren't friends anymore because they didn't have any reason to have to talk to me anymore. I've wanted to be just friends with guys who've kept me at arm's length because I wasn't attractive enough to be a girlfriend and they had no interest in having female friends.

It sucks because I prefer male company sometimes. The conversation is different with men. They often like similar music to me. Women don't like my taste in music and don't want to go to gigs with me.


A *True* soulmate is relatively rare, based on what I have seen.
And consider all the divorces, that happen.
Consider all the domestic violence.
Or consider simply the disgruntlement and frustrations in significant-other relationships.

Look at Ray Barone and his wife, Deborah.
He doesn't get nearly as much sex as he would like,
And his knees have calluses from all the begging to boot. 8O :mrgreen:

Society builds this unrealistic picture of what life *should be* to "Live the Dream".
And those infected, seduce people into believing the lie, sadly.

I'm not saying "The Dream" isn't for everyone.
The world does need "Breeders" to produce more consumers to pad the big business profit margins, after all. :mrgreen:



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19 Jun 2020, 11:48 pm

hurtloam wrote:
I've lost male friends after they decided they weren't sexually interested in me. To tyemhat meant we weren't friends anymore because they didn't have any reason to have to talk to me anymore. I've wanted to be just friends with guys who've kept me at arm's length because I wasn't attractive enough to be a girlfriend and they had no interest in having female friends.


It sucks reading what Aspie girls have to go through. I hate to say it but we NTs are conditioned/programmed from birth to blindly follow social norms about status/looks and social climbing. And yes, a lot of NT males are driven by sex (not hard to envision given Freud has not so subtly hinted this was the case).

I think Bender's advice is salient that you might find deeper connections with both males and females who are social outliers (for whatever reason) as they are more likely to tolerate your differences and be more understanding if they have also had similar experiences from mainstream society.



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20 Jun 2020, 10:17 am

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I think Bender's advice is salient that you might find deeper connections with both males and females who are social outliers (for whatever reason) as they are more likely to tolerate your differences and be more understanding if they have also had similar experiences from mainstream society.


You'd think that yeah, but I've had the same experience with aspie and eccentric guys.



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20 Jun 2020, 10:40 am

I haven't read everything in this thread, but my advice to the OP is to find a FWB who is somebody she knows can meet her physical needs and is OK with that sort of arrangement, then when anybody else hits on her for sex she can simply say that her needs are being met. Then she can make a long-term project of finding "the one" whoever that is. In fact, the longest relationship I was in before meeting my wife was with somebody who was in that situation (although she seemed less bothered about horny guys hitting on her, OTOH she had only just turned 21).

I am somewhat skeptical about the whole true love thing despite almost 35 years of being happily married, at least for aspies. I gather the OP is somewhat eccentric and she may not even be in a position to recognize when she's found her perfect match even if he showed up at her front door this evening. I would recommend that she be open to anything new (apart from the sexual issues) and be patient, while continuing to manage her sex life in a way that makes her feel she's in control of the situation.


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20 Jun 2020, 12:27 pm

BenderRodriguez wrote:
Don't feel bad about it, the grass is always greener on the other side. People who never had the experience of not being able to connect with others because they're seen from the start as objects of desire, just won't understand how isolated you feel.

All I can say about your situation is that it will get slowly better with age (not implying you'll lose your looks, but (some) men your age will (hopefully) mature a bit) and the most important part: if you can, avoid small, conformist places and look for outliers, eccentrics and unconventional people, they make the best friends and partners for people on the spectrum anyway.


Thanks for that useful advice, I really appreciate that!

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I'm a dud. I don't get any interest, but I can absolutely see how annoying it would be to be only evaluated for your looks when you want a deeper connection with people.

I've lost male friends after they decided they weren't sexually interested in me. To tyemhat meant we weren't friends anymore because they didn't have any reason to have to talk to me anymore. I've wanted to be just friends with guys who've kept me at arm's length because I wasn't attractive enough to be a girlfriend and they had no interest in having female friends.

It sucks because I prefer male company sometimes. The conversation is different with men. They often like similar music to me. Women don't like my taste in music and don't want to go to gigs with me.


That sounds terrible! These male "friends" should be ashamed of themselves. But that's exactly a thing I don't understand, I mean who cares about the gender..

I hope you haven't been hurt too many times.



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20 Jun 2020, 12:33 pm

I’ve ALWAYS have had relationships with people who are “outliers.”



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20 Jun 2020, 12:37 pm

Pepe wrote:
I hope he isn't getting you down.
You are one of the more interesting people we have come across.
We don't want to lose your contributions to this website. :wink:


Oww thanks! :mrgreen:

Pepe wrote:
My suggestion would be for LC to look at men older than herself, with more maturity,
And, no, I am not talking about males over 60. :wink:


Yeah that's a nice suggestions. Tbh this is one of the reasons some rs didn't work out for me after a while, cause ACTUALLY I'm physically (and mentally) attracted to older men... But it kinda never happened this way. :roll:



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20 Jun 2020, 12:40 pm

Nor males over 35.