Nice guys REALLY DO finish last.

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23 Sep 2012, 1:37 pm

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23 Sep 2012, 1:38 pm

Tequila wrote:

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There is a lot to be said for a guy who makes good money...

Yeah, but not being able to sniff out avaricious women simply makes them a target.

Here's looking at you, Anna Nicole...

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23 Sep 2012, 1:53 pm

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23 Sep 2012, 2:31 pm

I'd actually argue that when nice guys finish last (nice guys not 'nice guys'), and admittedly it happens quite often, its because they look at the current dating situation culturally, look at who they'd have to bend and break themselves into being, and say "---- that". As a natural consequence they opt out because the necessities of current culture can't and don't fit them here.

Sometimes you have to admit that being true to yourself has opportunity cost.

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23 Sep 2012, 3:54 pm

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I think "luck" is important too.

I know nice guys that have had a lot of good luck. Guys that are very insecure but have their jobs and guys that are very shy but got the girl they wanted.

Same with girls.

When a friend of mine finds love, I always hallucinate how "luck" made the important move. You know, right place right time right person.

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23 Sep 2012, 5:46 pm

How does a lack of pre-determination apply to one situation any more than to another?

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28 Sep 2012, 3:15 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6nqMH1IYn0&feature=related[/youtube]Nice guys win in the end once the girls mature over time and realize the bad boys arent the right ones for them. At least what this lady is saying.

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28 Sep 2012, 9:06 am

OliveOilMom wrote:

The problem with that last sentence is that everybody's definition of "nice" can be different. What one person may think of as nice, another person may think of as boring, or mean, or arrogant or whatever other adjective. Also, what one person may think of as a douchebag, jerk, mean, etc may be what another person thinks of as "nice". So, it's all subjective really. There is no one universal "nice" catagory that people can be put in. Everybody has a different criteria for "nice". So really, I would say that people should get with people that they like, case closed.

Right.

Case in point...I went out on a date with a guy two weeks ago. On the surface, he seemed nice. He moved to the area to take care of his grandmother, and was helping a group of Buddhist monks renovate a house in our downtown in order to hold services. He wasn't my type physically, but I was overlooking that, because he seemed like a genuine guy via online and text. When we went out, he had nothing to say. I got possibly 30 words out of him on a four hour date, and most of them were about how he used to collect turtles. He also kept smiling at me in a way that I think was supposed to be kind and benign, but came across as more amused and condescending. So I didn't go out with him again. If I have to work that hard for conversation, you can be the nicest guy in the world (per my definition of the word), and I still won't go out with you a second time.

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28 Sep 2012, 9:22 am

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28 Sep 2012, 9:43 am

JennaMarbles is so full of herself it's not even funny. Just another YT celebrity riding the wave.

The other lady seems like she's kinda intelligent though. The one in the video AspieOtaku posted. I'd trust her over a 20-something anyday.

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28 Sep 2012, 9:51 am

OliveOilMom wrote:

AspieOtaku wrote:

OliveOilMom wrote:

blue_bean wrote:

Nice girls date nice guys.

Girls that date douchebags are dating them because they're probably douchebags themselves.

Case closed.

Not always. Some girls date douchebags because they have low self esteem and think thats all they can get. Some girls don't think they can hold out for somebody better and they feel like they have to settle, so they do. Thats not always the case but sometimes it is.

Also, just because a guy is a douchebag to some people doesn't mean he is one to everybody. He may be nice to her but a jerk to most other people. Thats not always the case either.

My point is, you can't just put everybody into neat little catagories.

Its all a matter of trust and self confidence what I have noticed, which is odd is that more women tend to come on to me when I do not pay attention or are fliritng with them or not interested at all but when I do look or act interested they ignore me. Another oddity is that when I am with a woman other women flirt with me more but when I am not with anyone they ignore me or are not interested whatsoever. I may or may not have figured this out but it seems that they want a challenge furthermore if they seem to beable to sense desperation. When I am in the situation a woman is coming on to me at the time I am not thinking about women *for once* I do not notice the cues she is interested right away. I can kinda relate to girls with low self esteem getting with douchebags etc only on the flipside I have had a constant low self esteem and have allowed my self into an abusive relationship after getting out of it It has changed my way of thinking as well as after many years of healing and not trusting people. Also those with low self esteem tend to put others on a pedestool that greatly enables the other to abuse that. Never again will I go that route. I dont think I am going to finish last I am a fairly nice guy and I do good things for others all I need is a nice girl and that is all. Nice guys should get with nice girls case closed.

Just because someone is nice to one person doesn't mean they're surely nice though. Only the person who they were nice to will think they're nice. Use the old date in a restaurant scenario; guy and girl are out together, he does all the right gentlemanly "nice" things for her (pushing in her chair etc.), but when it comes to ordering the meals he is rude and arrogant to all the wait staff. Should she go out on a second date with him just because he was nice to her? NO!

I think "nice" has a pretty clear definition, not subjective. It's just that people's approach to others can vary (I know I'm pleasant to some people and not to others, some people think I'm friendly and courteous, others think I'm a total b***h), hence some people get good impressions and some don't. You see people and how they treat you and others around them and that forms your opinion of them.

If you're a jerk to one person you become a jerk in the mind of everybody. But if you're nice to one person you're only nice in the mind of that one person.

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28 Sep 2012, 10:04 am

DialAForAwesome wrote:

She brings up some good points though. But whatever, selectively ignore what you want.

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28 Sep 2012, 10:12 am

blue_bean wrote:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VXXXX9iVPI[/youtube]

"You don't hear us moping around about how nice WE are and how good we can cook sandwiches and sheeaat. NO..."

This is why I LIKE JennaMarbles! lol

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28 Sep 2012, 10:13 am

AspieOtaku wrote:

So after they had their fun young times then they want to go and settle for the nice guy. Im not that big of a dope, if i can wait till im 35+ for a girl to be interested in me I can sure as hell keep going without women.

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28 Sep 2012, 10:17 am

Love and Dating forum is really the "men's discussion forum" :lol:

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28 Sep 2012, 10:23 am

BanjoGirl wrote:

Love and Dating forum is really the "men's discussion forum" :lol:

because 9 times out of 10 its the men that have problems with "love and dating" and other things that are discussed around here.

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