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If feminism is about equality, then explain to me why almost every person I've ever met who called herself a feminist always wants special treatment and holds the two sexes to different standards, please. And don't act like valentinewiggin and try to tell me they don't exist.

What's disturbing about being against any superiority group? And I don't care what they say their mission statement is; Their actions and words don't match up with that anyway. AND I'm not the only one who feels that way. It's just that, anytime someone tries to point out these FACTS, along comes an army of feminists to b***h and complain endlessly until a thread gets locked. I've been getting PMs from other people on this forum who feel the same way I do. I'm not afraid to talk about it, and I'm not about to pretend it doesn't exist. I'm not here to stat a war, but I'm not about to lie. I'm here to speak the truth and nothing more. And I fail to see what's disturbing about the truth.

If the KKK were represented on this forum, and their mission statement said something about wanting equality between whites and blacks/other minorities, despite what they do all the time, would you call my "war" against THEM disturbing too? I'm confused...

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But why? The only experience to be gained from a bad relationship is the knowledge that you probably shouldn't try dating people similar to the one you had the bad relationship with anymore. That, and you'll learn what type of behavior should be considered a red flag so you can keep an eye out for it in the future. That, and you might just end up thinking all women are hurtful b*****s, which isn't true.

Or by experience, do you mean you just want to know what it's like to be kissed and have sex so you're better at doing those things for the next one/in case a good girl does come along, or what? I want you to know I'm not questioning you as a personal attack or anything, I just don't understand why you'd want to be hurt. I've had my heart broken enough times to know I never want to experience it again. Hell, I knew that the FIRST time, but that knowledge wasn't enough to stop it from happening again.

You're not the only one. Not only are we generally expected to make all the money and shower them with gifts and praise all the time, but we're supposed to buy them the ring, and it better be a bigass diamond they can go around showing off to everybody, or it's not good enough. And despite all this unfairness, we aren't even allowed to complain about it, because that's not "manly." We're told, by men and women alike, to just suck it up and deal with it, while the women are allowed to cry to whomever the hell they feel like crying to, and nobody says a damn thing to them about sucking it up and dealing with it. And when we get sick and tired of the woman's crap(or she gets tired of us), what happens? She gets the kids most of the time, and because she won't work, he gets stuck paying her child support and/or alimony forever. And it gets worse... I used to know a guy named Gary who had a wife and kids. His wife divorced him and got married to another guy. Not only does this other guy support her monetarily, but also, Gary is forced to pay child support because the new guy never adopted the kid. So this woman gets a completely free ride thru life at the expense of two men... How the hell is that fair? And does ANY feminist EVER complain about ANY of this? HELL NO. They love it. It benefits them. Why the hell WOULD they complain about it? I mean, what kind of person complains about that kind of thing? Gee, I dunno, maybe someone who actually cares about equality???

This reminds me of what happened to my dad. His ex-wife was a druggie, and worked as a nurse and was stealing 'scrips from the hospital she worked at. Eventually they got divorced. They had a son together, Billy (who is, obviously, my half-brother). When it came time to go to court, they ruled in Dad's ex-wife's favor. I honestly have no clue why. Dad at the time only had a couple parking tickets and a DUI or something like that. But this woman was literally stealing drugs from under a hospital's nose, and the court KNEW this from what my dad told me, yet they still let her have custody of Billy and made my dad pay child support from him. It got worse because she wouldn't let him see his own son. 45 years pass and Dad is dying, and we finally got a hold of him after Dad had been looking for the guy for 40+ years, and he decides Dad is a worthless pile of s**t who didn't deserve to talk to him. All because she had the gall to tell him that my dad wasn't looking for him (which was a lie) and didn't care about him (also a lie).

yes, and i can feel better about myself that i can finally say to myself "i've had a girlfriend before"

Okay, fair enough. I guess I can understand that, but I still think it's a bad idea, and you're gonna end up getting hurt and possibly even be worse off in the end in terms of confidence and being able to approach another woman.

overall i don't care if my first girlfriend is the right one, i don't want my first girlfriend to become my wife, i just want to neter dating mode like most other people are

I get that you don't expect to marry your first girlfriend, but you shouldn't go into it expecting it to suck, or it absolutely will. That, and she'll probably notice you don't really care.

It's true of some women, but not all. It's up to us guys to not date those types of women though. What happens then? They won't get dates, or at least good dates. They'll end up having to settle for what they don't want or change their attitudes. It's still a 50-50 numbers game.

Life is easy for a man if he is good looking and rich.

Similarly for a woman who is merely good-looking and willing to use it to her advantage.

I know it's not true for all, that's why I used the word "GENERALLY." It happens more often than not.

s**t, I remember a few years back, when I was with my ex, one of her friends got engaged, and she had the nerve to complain about the size of the diamond on her ring. Then she made him consider that ring her "promise" ring(wtf is that anyway, and why don't the women ever buy US jewelry or anything else like that?) and then buy a "better" ring for her as her engagement ring later.

Get your facts sorted out. Feminism means equality by it's definition and there is plenty of people (men and women) who stand by this definition. You have a personal opinion that it doesn't, based on having encountered people you have found unpleasant that have used the word feminist of themselves. That is like saying that all black people must be evil because you have met a few that have treated you badly.

Your opinion doesn't make something "truth". It also doesn't justify you attacking a concept or people here. If you have something against a specific person, please be mature enough to sort it out with them in person rather than shouting out "All black people are evil!", "All women are evil!", "All Jews are evil!" or something of the same level. Yes, I find that very disturbing.

Don't blame him, feminism has lost it's true meaning completely throughout the years. There are a lot of bad apples walking around these days who see feminism as nothing else but female superiority opposed to men and some of them are actually convinced that the world would be a better place if men would actually literally become true slaves to women in any way possible.

What's truly bizarre is that any man successfully crushed under a feminist's heel ALSO no longer has her respect (left over from the biological instinct for man to be strong enough to stand for himself?) As much as she hates misogynists for being disgusting, I think part of her still respects a man who's still strong enough to fight back from her efforts to destroy him.
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