'The Undateables' - UK TV series

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22 Jan 2013, 11:11 pm

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I haven't seen this episode yet. I must at some point.


upload the next episode pleeeeeeeease



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22 Jan 2013, 11:20 pm

blahblah123 wrote:
upload the next episode pleeeeeeeease


I can't do that because it hasn't been uploaded anywhere online that I can see. I'll check again later today to see if I can download a copy from somewhere.



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23 Jan 2013, 5:09 am

Any luck with finding it?

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the- ... od#3467394

'This time the Undateables include Kate, an incurable romantic, and Damian, whose dream date is a moonlit picnic in the park.

Amateur poet Kate is 29-years-old and has Down's Syndrome. When not working, Kate writes verse or watches rom coms. She dreams of finding her perfect man and future husband.

Having been single for nine years, Kate decides that it's time to turn to dating agency Stars in the Sky for help. The agency sets her up on a blind date with 32-year-old year old Simon, and they visit a maze in Ross-on-Wye. The date goes well, and they arrange to meet for a second time.

Damian has albinism and must spend much of his time indoors. He has been single for four years.

Oliver is an artist who paints romantic scenes of his own imaginary love life. Diagnosed with autism when he was two years old, he often finds social situations difficult.

When Oliver meets Amy at a disco, they decide to go on a date together and he ends up plucking up the courage to ask her to be his girlfriend. Are Oliver's single days over?'



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23 Jan 2013, 6:09 am

Nothing yet, no. Thing is, if it was on the Bee Bee Cee, I could simply download it and shove it up here. I can't do that though, as there isn't a program that can download Channel 4 shows.



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23 Jan 2013, 6:10 am

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Nothing yet, no.


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23 Jan 2013, 7:34 am

Having said that, you might like this article, from brutal satirical comedian Victor Lewis-Smith:

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Helping the physically and mentally challenged find a soulmate would be an act of compassion in private. Once you bring in a TV crew and three million viewers you’ve crossed the line
  • The Undateables is exposing the most vulnerable parts of society’s most vulnerable members to the viewing public’s amused gaze, and it bloody well shouldn’t
"See the person not the disability” has always been my motto. And some years ago, as I stood in the reception area of Channel 4 (shortly after writing a newspaper column that included an arguably off-colour joke about the subject), I remember seeing a person and his disability approaching me at break-neck speed. The gentleman in question was a victim of Thalidomide, and rather than engaging me in rational argument over what I’d written, he adopted a Bruce Lee-style stance and asked me to go outside, so he could insert my head somewhere not recommended by the Royal Society of Proctologists. Sensing that (despite him having foreshortened arms) he was a highly-trained kickboxer, I tried to lighten the mood by asking him if he would consider an arm-wrestling contest instead, but this only fuelled his wrath, so I resorted to an old trick taught to me by the Clapper family (nobody can run like them) and legged it. The joke that enraged him, by the way, had been told to me by the late, great Ian Dury. Q: What is the smallest pub in Britain? A: The Thalidomide Arms.

See the person not the disability is C4’s justification for commissioning The Undateables, and at first glance this show might seem admirably well-intentioned. “It’s a series about the universal quest for love,” says the publicity accompanying what’s really Blind Date with real blind people, but when it added that “we will share their highs and lows on their quest” I felt the first faint inkling of mistrust, and long before the end of last night’s edition, that inkling had become a fully-fledged ink.

Even society’s most physiognomically and cerebrally well-endowed members leave themselves open to hurt and humiliation when seeking a soulmate, so helping the physically and mentally challenged to find a suitable partner would surely be an act of compassion, were it done discreetly and in private. But once you bring in the TV crew, ask questions like “Do you think you might be boyfriend and girlfriend by the end of the day?” and leave the cameras running as the tears begin to flow, you’ve crossed the line from compassion into prurience, and what you’re really doing is boosting your channel’s ratings by offering the show’s three million viewers access to a freak show.



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23 Jan 2013, 7:51 am

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Having said that, you might like this article, from brutal satirical comedian Victor Lewis-Smith:

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Helping the physically and mentally challenged find a soulmate would be an act of compassion in private. Once you bring in a TV crew and three million viewers you’ve crossed the line
  • The Undateables is exposing the most vulnerable parts of society’s most vulnerable members to the viewing public’s amused gaze, and it bloody well shouldn’t
"See the person not the disability” has always been my motto. And some years ago, as I stood in the reception area of Channel 4 (shortly after writing a newspaper column that included an arguably off-colour joke about the subject), I remember seeing a person and his disability approaching me at break-neck speed. The gentleman in question was a victim of Thalidomide, and rather than engaging me in rational argument over what I’d written, he adopted a Bruce Lee-style stance and asked me to go outside, so he could insert my head somewhere not recommended by the Royal Society of Proctologists. Sensing that (despite him having foreshortened arms) he was a highly-trained kickboxer, I tried to lighten the mood by asking him if he would consider an arm-wrestling contest instead, but this only fuelled his wrath, so I resorted to an old trick taught to me by the Clapper family (nobody can run like them) and legged it. The joke that enraged him, by the way, had been told to me by the late, great Ian Dury. Q: What is the smallest pub in Britain? A: The Thalidomide Arms.

See the person not the disability is C4’s justification for commissioning The Undateables, and at first glance this show might seem admirably well-intentioned. “It’s a series about the universal quest for love,” says the publicity accompanying what’s really Blind Date with real blind people, but when it added that “we will share their highs and lows on their quest” I felt the first faint inkling of mistrust, and long before the end of last night’s edition, that inkling had become a fully-fledged ink.

Even society’s most physiognomically and cerebrally well-endowed members leave themselves open to hurt and humiliation when seeking a soulmate, so helping the physically and mentally challenged to find a suitable partner would surely be an act of compassion, were it done discreetly and in private. But once you bring in the TV crew, ask questions like “Do you think you might be boyfriend and girlfriend by the end of the day?” and leave the cameras running as the tears begin to flow, you’ve crossed the line from compassion into prurience, and what you’re really doing is boosting your channel’s ratings by offering the show’s three million viewers access to a freak show.


Hmmmm

I can see the point he's trying to make but I disagree. I'd want to know how the people in the programme felt about their experience. I see the programme as a positive attempt to show people what it's like to live with a disability and be searching for a partner. I think people who call this type of programme a 'freak show' are showing their OWN prejudice towards disability ie they see it as something that shouldn't be seen on national TV.

And anyone who would make such crass jokes about and to people affected by Thalidomide has hardly got any real feeling of care towards disabled people in my opinion. He seems to find it amusing that he upset the person who challenged him about what he'd written.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:00 am

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He seems to find it amusing that he upset the person who challenged him about what he'd written.


I don't think he said he didn't want to see disabled people on TV, but that the handling of it seems intrusive and exploitative.

I think his point was that the person had immediately threatened him with violence, not that he'd been challenged about what he said. I wouldn't want to treat someone with respect if they had threatened me without listening to what I had to say. I might fear them, or ignore/deride/mock them, maybe, but not respect them.

That said, I agree with the bulk of what he says - particularly with the prurient way of it. You really get the impression (as he points out) that the people behind this show would never let someone into their lives as intimately as they're poking into other people's (but then, they're 'only' autistic or Down's or whatever, so their privacy isn't as important as 'normal' people's - I've come across this attitude before).

I think it's that, above all, that sticks in my craw.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:06 am

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nessa238 wrote:
He seems to find it amusing that he upset the person who challenged him about what he'd written.


I don't think he said he didn't want to see disabled people on TV, but that the handling of it seems intrusive and exploitative.

I think his point was that the person had immediately threatened him with violence, not that he'd been challenged about what he said. I wouldn't want to treat someone with respect if they had immediately threatened me. Fear or derision, maybe, but not respect.

That said, I agree with the bulk of what he says - particularly with the prurient way of it. You really get the impression (as he points out) that the people behind this show would never let someone into their lives as intimately as they're poking into other people's (but then, they're 'only' autistic or Down's or whatever, so their privacy isn't as important as theirs - I've come across this attitude beofre).

I think it's that, above all, that sticks in my craw.


I know what you mean but in my opinion, anything that shows disabled people living normal lives is a good thing as you hardly ever see disability on national TV - it's as if it doesn't exist

Why shouldn't disabled people be able to go on a TV show just like the non-disabled?

Equality means just that - the right to appear on a TV show along with everyone else

I like the programmes anyway



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23 Jan 2013, 8:40 am

This reminds me of the movie Music Within (2007)

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The true story of Richard Pimentel, a brilliant public speaker with a troubled past, who returns from Vietnam severely hearing -impaired and finds a new purpose in his landmark efforts on the behalf of Americans with disabilities.

The guy in the wheel chair was finally allowed to enter his dream restaurant, instead of being chased and hid from society.



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23 Jan 2013, 3:38 pm

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Sara(the one who has dwarfism) should move to California. I have seen many there and it's nothing unusual.


Must. Not. Make. Gratuitous. Joke.


When do I ever make jokes?



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23 Jan 2013, 9:27 pm

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When do I ever make jokes?


No, I meant me! I shouldn't make gratuitous jokes!

As for the latest episode of The Undateables: I can't find it anywhere.



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23 Jan 2013, 10:03 pm

Oh, well, I appreciated the upload of the first two episodes, and I got the gist of the show by now, so all good.



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25 Jan 2013, 5:20 am

Downloading it in HD and will be up here in about two hours or so.



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25 Jan 2013, 5:34 am

Thanks Tequila for making time.



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25 Jan 2013, 8:14 am

Series 2 / Episode 3 of The Undateables as promised.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBmQDh9b7bs[/youtube]Sorry that it's nearly three days overdue. ;)

(As before: people in the British Islands and the Republic of Ireland will have to watch on 4OD or find a proxy.)