Guys That Want Virgin Mary Purity

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Gotcha. Basically it just has to do with corporate worship in a holy place, not your perceived worth as a person.

I’m a Southern Baptist. Lately my bathing and grooming has been somewhat lacking in preparing for church. Even though my church is a more affluent crowd, people who know me don’t seem to care. All that matters is I make it to the piano twice a week.

If I go two weeks without shaving, nobody cares. If I don’t bathe, nobody seems to notice. If I dress down during the summer because it’s freakin’ HOT in Mississippi, so what?

But if I show up wearing the wrong kind shoes, all hell breaks loose. I’m not kidding, either. I was once told not to come back. I was wearing black, leather, non-descript, comfortable, nice casual shoes, and somehow that offended someone. Heheh...maybe my shoes were ritually unclean.

To probably most non-Mainline churches ritual cleanliness is irrelevant. We regard our sanctuaries as “holy places,” but not in the same sense as the temple or tabernacle were holy places. For us, it’s about the people, not the place. Catholics, IMO, sit neatly in the middle, but I still think their worship is too ritualistic and possibly missing the point. There just isn’t a need for cleanliness rituals as there’d been prior to the destruction of the second temple.

Oh, it’s horrible. I wouldn’t wish this on YOUR worst enemy. So terrible...

I mean, we’ve been together for almost 20 years now and average about one bad argument, like, I dunno, every two years. It’s just too much, Boo.

You know what the worst part about it is? The children. They’re always just so happy. And obedient. And polite to other grownups. I mean, if this gets any worse, I dunno how I’m gonna keep living.

If I could change ANYTHING, it wouldn’t be her or the children. It would be other people who keep trying to split us up. The friend I keep mentioning—if I treated her the same way this friend treated her, I’d never hear the end of it. This woman tries to isolate her and monopolize her time, to get her away from me, our children, and even activities she enjoys. This woman is like that guy from the movie “Enough.” It’s frightening. Seriously, this is the kind of thing women call police on SO’s for, domestic violence. There are people you can call to show up at your house, pick you up, and move you to a safe house to get away from people who isolate you from others. And yet here is someone who will do that very thing and think she’s perfectly justified just because she’s not a man.

Wow, Boo...I have, like, ONE complaint about the relationship, and it’s not even really about the relationship. Marriage is soooo haaaaaaarrrrddddddd.

If you don't trust your female partner....don't be in a relationship.

If you don't trust your guy to not make babies with other women...don't be with him.

What's all this bushlit of secretly paternity testing your kids?

People want to be free to fook around but complain about all the negatives that their girlfriends are getting pregnant by other males. We want unrestricted sexual access and none of the responsibilities.

Well then, i am glad I was mistaken.

But you always say that no relationship lasts forever, usually people say stuff like that during divorce.

I said it because it’s true. Divorce isn’t the only thing that separates couples. Occasionally, people die.

Hahaha what point are Catholics missing? Just curious

First off, I have a lot of Catholic friends. Every now and then I’ll even go to mass, even though I can’t participate in Eucharist.

The Catholics where I live are really cool. Something I like about them is how vibrant their worship services are. I get a sense they really are living in that moment, and the structure and the symbolism create an atmosphere in which authentic worship can, and often does, happen. As a Baptist, obviously I think our music is better, and our friends have been working overtime to get us to convert. Ain’t gonna happen. But it’s mindblowing how their masses are so dated and yet there’s a feeling and authenticity that the church I work for and attend just doesn’t have. I know they’re a little jealous of our use of upbeat contemporary music. I know they’re working to bring their music into the 21st century. But I wonder if that won’t come at the cost of authenticity.

As Baptists, folks at my church miss the point because we have this ongoing squabble over music selection and style. No matter how energetic we are on the platform, it seems to fall flat across the congregation.

Catholics embrace ritual, whereas we reject it. The reason why is rituals after a time become about going through the motions of worship rather than authentically worshiping from the heart. While we reject Catholic tradition, we’ve more/less invented our own sort of liturgy. It’s become a place to meet your social obligations to see and be seen rather than a place for a body of believers find communion with the Father.

Catholics are at a high risk of doing this. Somehow our Catholic Church has managed to use ritual as a vehicle to facilitate worship rather than emphasize the importance of rituals themselves. The biggest problem our Catholics have is they maintain an emphasis on works-based salvation. So a few of them—not many, but a few—go to mass not to meet with God, but rather to keep themselves just high enough over the flames of hell to secure their afterlife. I don’t believe that any amount of works make you worthy of heaven. I do not believe you can lose your salvation. I do not believe in praying to saints, angels, and Mary for intercession. I think the heart of Catholicism is well-intentioned. Unfortunately, the dogma is potentially misleading and misses the point of why Jesus came and the work He did on the cross.

AngelRho, you are awesome. Yes, Baptist music is unbeatable. Praise God From Whom All Blessings Flow. Your doxology. I do like that.

I'm not Catholic......I'm non denom. Originally baptized Lutheran.

Putting faith in mere rituals is not good. Perhaps there is more to it. Lutherans broke away from it.

Thing is, in many cases mothers will give you that same trust speech but once you use a paternity test... Surprise! I think paternity tests should be automatic.

That's your choice...whereas I would tell the guy to gtfo of my life.

You also seem to assume that if the child is not yours the woman is always a plain crook and it's easily understandable from her behaviour. Sometime they act all nice, loving and trusty but the child is still not yours.
If paternity tests were automatic people could be sure and none of this trust discussions would happen. Until that happens, better safe than sorry!

Don't bang someone you don't trust.

Trust doesn't mean that the child is yours though. Also one can easily start having doubts because of something that happens after the conception (or the birth. )

Ok, I think we are getting to the meat of the matter. Somewhere along the line someone must have cheated on you. If so, I feel bad.

If you were married and your wife got pregnant, would you ask for a paternity test?

No, because I don't engage in relationships.

No, because she'd probably get mad and I can understand that. But depending on the situation perhaps I might consider doing a paternity test on my own.

That's different. You're talking about hookups or other non marriage relationships. The woman in question may want the test done. I do know what you are talking about. People I know have been in that situation.

Protect yourself. Use a condom at ALL times. No bareback.