[25+ Age] L & D Forums for High-Functioning Adult AS?

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Again, we have the young males picking at the words of someone who has experience they don't understand.
Haha here we go with your repetitive, condescending, elitist actions again. I certainly dont have as much overall life and relationship experience as you but thats no reason to discredit me now is it?


Wait until you are an adult independent in the world with AS, no disability, no one to take care of you. Then take an inappropriate, incompatible person in your life while trying to support yourself and maintain your functioning. When you start having meltdowns, etc, can't hold onto your job, it's only your own fault, and to say that NTs have the same problem is to ignore that AS don't have the same social and relationship strengths and weaknesses as "every sane human"

I have a spine to hold my self up which has been beaten (figuratively of course) into me since I was a child, Im not the 15 year old in school who has to have an assistant, has meltdowns everyday, has his mommy cook him a special lunch, I function like every NT you will see with the exception of thinking different and outside of the box. Put me in a room with 20 kids my age and try and pic me [the kid with aspergers] out, you would have quite some trouble. You have a sterotypical aspie stuck in your head, you think EVERY one of us lacks the ability to put forward our intelligence to gain something, you are sadly mistaken.


You don't get my frame of reference, but you feel comfortable, with your 15 years of age, passing judgment on words that you cannot possibly understand yet. You have no way of understanding the significance of having a bad match disrupt your life, for an independent, employed adult AS.
Words? I understand your vocabulary quite well I dont see how that is relevant, especially sense even if I did have trouble understanding your words (Which I dont) I could google it.

It is worse than pointless to be on this forum. It's painfully cognitively dissonant for me to be on this so dominated by teenaged/young male AS, giving out "advice" to other AS. If you think my opinions are comments are so easily trivialized by you, that only underlines the need to have someplace where more mature, functional AS can speak about these subjects without the interference of the mistaken. The gang of teenaged/young males who have come here and dumped on this thread are an example of dominating but mistaken voices who only dominate by virtue of their aggression and sense of entitlement as majority voices on the site. And not dominating because they are right or know anything about what they are talking about.

It's takes too much time and energy to try to get any points across, when talk about Love & Dating is screened and dominated by virgin teenaged AS boys. Here, as nowhere else in the world and without any justification whatsoever, they are the dominating voices and set the agenda and create the environment on Love & Dating discussion.

It is worse than pointless, it is self-defeating for a sexually active, mature female to be on this forum.





This will probably be my last post... so you can get your last words in without fear of your words being held to any test of reality or rationality.

It is sad that the feminists on this site have forced LPP to have to pose as a woman... how sad for him that he has experienced that as a young male telling them how to interpret their experiences, experiences he does not share or understand. They (we) are sad, bad people. If LPP shifted his attention to black people, and felt he could behave that way toward black activist posters and their opinions and ideas about their black experience, he would get less sympathy. If he acted this way toward black issues as he does toward women's issues, his behavior would be seen in an totally different light. Somehow it is acceptable for males to marginalize women's opinions, even when their opinions are about their own woman's experiences with men.

The young female groupies who cheerlead young male chauvinists are so absurd; they don't realize that their desire to be popular with the boys is kind of transparent to older feminists. That is most obvious in the Love & Dating forum. So it isn't even necessary to discuss the young women's views since they automatically and submissively track those of the young/teen male groupthink from which the young females get their orientation of what is permissible and what is not okay to say or think about Love and Dating. Young NT females learn early on that they have to embrace the views of the boy chauvinists and cheerlead them, to be popular. You can hear more young women bad-mouthing feminism than you hear young males, trying to distance themselves from those bad women who they claim hate men. I never did cheerlead male chauvinism to fit in, even for Love & Dating, and it kind of surprises me how extensive that behavior is among young AS women. I thought it was an NT thing, but I guess not.

I keep getting attacked by male virgins and teenaged boys on this site. I practically started a flame war (me at the center of it) just be stating my opinion that a "should we view girls as sex objects" thread in General Discussion, that was started by a disruptive person, was sexist and I was disappointed it wasn't locked along with the other threads the person had started.

I keep getting attacked by male virgins and teenaged boys on this site. I practically started a flame war (me at the center of it) just be stating my opinion that a "should we view girls as sex objects" thread in General Discussion, that was started by a disruptive person, was sexist and I was disappointed it wasn't locked along with the other threads the person had started.

I keep getting attacked by male virgins and teenaged boys on this site.

The adult forum is actually the least mature forum on here, ironically.

I keep getting attacked by male virgins and teenaged boys on this site. I practically started a flame war (me at the center of it) just be stating my opinion that a "should we view girls as sex objects" thread in General Discussion, that was started by a disruptive person, was sexist and I was disappointed it wasn't locked along with the other threads the person had started.

I am not a feminist or anti-feminist. Frankly, I think that some women who identify themselves as feminists today are anything but pro-woman, but just have found a niche for themselves in the liberal activist universe for that label. I was as horrified as any gun-toting NRA guy when the liberal feminists started declaring that Sarah Palin wasn't a true woman if she hunted and killed animals. Mostly, I think that any discussion about feminism devolves into people who come across as sexists complaining about people who come across as neurotic liberals and vice versa.

I am simply trying to figure out how to find/contribute to a forum where a minority view is neither offensive nor marginalized/belittled. Since you fixated on gender/feminism instead of the obvious other issues raised in the thread, like how Love & Dating opinions tend to be true only for some demographics and false for others. There is not only that problem in Love & Dating (many statements are true/helpful for one (age) group while being false/undermining for another (age) group). But there is also the problem where you have people who have been mistreated by members of one group (e.g. men or women) speaking on issues along with members of that group, who might resent some of the things said.

While it is always possible to simple avoid confrontation, it seems to me that people aren't getting the answers they seek because the discussion isn't frank or confrontational enough to explore these communications dilemmas. Especially in a forum where people have communications disorders, like myself. I think it's good that mystyc raised some of the questions he did by expressing his frustration. It's good to avoid confrontation and verbal disagreements, but when the people aren't getting answers, it's also good to see that is happening and maybe look into why. The smart young men on this forum shouldn't be made to feel more depressed and frustrated by those who are trying to help.

Perhaps one way to say that the young males aren't getting some of what they could benefit from in this forum is to say, "Why don't they understand what women/older Aspies mean when they say 'be yourself'"? Some males, apparently, are so frustrated by this advice they say it makes them feel inadequate or hopeless to hear it.

Why don't we have a challenge to see who can explain this better -- "Be Yourself" -- as advice that some males have complained they don't understand and that doesn't help them figure out how to behave?

Like Dueling Threads clearing up the whole "Be Yourself" question and explaining how to apply that advice?

I bet the most successful "Explaining Be Yourself" thread will be one in which you have a diversity of voices and opinions from a diversity of age/sex/experience levels. Ones in which the women speak up and disagree with the men who wave off their comments, instead of just subsiding into silence.

Me and the other women who have questioned that behavior he has engage in is sexist? Or because I am speaking about how minority and opposition views that don't fit in with some young male groupthink is treated?

The fact of there being something wrong with someone who pushes their arguments against the minority experiences of a minority class, who has an experience base they don't share, is pretty common in discrimination and anti-discrimination literature and discussion. It's not uncommon to run into self-appointed debunkers of minority experience, who are often white guys, who feel unashamed and free to insist that their clear opinions about the statements of minorities are persecution delusions. I can't tell you how many times in the Deep South I heard some young white guy say that there isn't really any problem with racial discrimination anymore, and that they knew this because they never saw any racism going on among any people they knew. As if, being young white males, they would experience a lot of racism or others who were racist would engage in their behavior openly.

Your strong opinions, unsupported by any supporting reasoning or points, are knee-jerk anti-feminism, which is very common among young women.

And I don't think your opinions are more important than LPP's (as you state in the above next post) because you have a vagina. I think I made clear that I think it's worth less because you will only follow what the males say and do, taking your permission for what is good and bad opinion from them. I actually said that in my post so you should reread it. It is the young males who tend to have real opinions and voices, while many young females are their followers, and embrace young male chauvinism and demonize feminists, to be more popular. I can't say that I find your opinions to be more important than LPP's since they are LPP's opinions you mirror.

The young male antifeminine groupthink group is trying to tag me and my posts a certain way, without any real coherent argument or basis in fact. There is no way you could have gotten that I think your opinion is more important than LPPs if you read my post. Not even reading my posts clearly, but just trying to frame them in a way that meets the bias that you wish to project on an opposition view.

And in your posts, every other one, almost, you keep referring to math, as if you live in the world of rationality. I am more of a science professional, having actually worked with math as a career. I am not a substitute teacher always talking about the rational, clear world of math.

There is a difference between the clarity of actual problem-solving mentality and the sensation of clarity one gets from insular, comfort-zone thinking. Math is the first kind of clarity, stupidity is the second kind of clarity.

I'd rather be insane than lame.

Wait, you're not pro-feminism? What do we mean by "feminism" here?