Aspie guys and flakiness in relationships

Page 2 of 3 [ 34 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

hale_bopp
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Nov 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 17,054
Location: None

10 Nov 2010, 1:54 am

Silverweed wrote:
Quote:
I'm thinking it maybe because you weren't willing to do the deed


I was willing to do the deed, though. I only wanted to make sure that I had protection in case the condom broke. And I told him this.


Quote:
what people need to understand is attraction hits you in the face like a frying pan... so does loss of interest.

I mean when can you actually pinpoint starting to be attracted to someone? It just happens one day.. same with losing interest. And its not easy for the other person.

An example from a friend of mine: "I really liked him and was into him and then one day I just saw everything that repulsed me in him"


So this sort of thing can happen with anyone? At any time? Should I just not get in a relationship at all then? I mean, I wouldn't want to be constantly wondering if the person is still going to like me the next day...


Its more common in young people who have not progressed to "serious relationship" or "love" phase. I think in your case its more about his age than being aspie.

You should not give up because of this, it may not even be the reason in your case.



hale_bopp
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Nov 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 17,054
Location: None

10 Nov 2010, 1:56 am

biostructure wrote:
I don't feel I'm ready for a real relationship at 25, and think a lot of it has to do with being an aspie.


Actually that has more to do with personality.



Zoma
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

User avatar

Joined: 8 Nov 2010
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 8

10 Nov 2010, 9:44 am

Silverweed wrote:
So my boyfriend broke up with me not too long ago and I feel like sh*t. I’ve haven’t been able to eat or sleep for weeks.

We’re both 18 and we have Asperger’s. This was the first time either of us had ever been in a relationship. We were making out in his car and he seemed quite into it when all of a sudden, he said, “Let’s go for a drive.” During the drive, he was very quiet – which is highly unusual for him. Right before he took me home, he asked me how I would like it if we just stayed friends. He said that he didn’t feel like he was ready to be in a relationship and wasn’t comfortable with the idea of having a girlfriend. He said that he knows lots of people who get into relationships and have problems, and he didn’t think he was ready for all that. I asked him whether he was still interested in me, and he said no.

But what’s so bizarre is the way he suddenly lost interest. He broke up with me on the spur of the moment – it’s not as though he had been feeling like this for awhile. Just a few days before, actually, he had said that he was really liking the way our relationship was coming along. When he came to pick me up, he was thrilled to see me -- and in the blink of an eye he wasn't attracted anymore. I was kind of stunned by how easily he could just turn his feelings for me on and off. Could some Aspie guys here give me some insight into what may have happened?



im new here but ill be your boyfriend and i won't leave you i have ethics against such crap. that guy is clearly a piece of work. the 3 things i hate most are corruption evil and infidelity so you can rest safe knowing i won't do anything to hurt you. but um once i get attached i may hold on fast... lol



Taurus
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

User avatar

Joined: 24 Oct 2009
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 29

10 Nov 2010, 9:58 am

I don't know whether it has to do with my AS, but I have a history of getting very cold feet - often very suddenly. It's like "snapping out of it" and suddenly realising that "this is not right for me". And when that happens, nothing can restore my faith in the budding relationship.



HopeGrows
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,565
Location: In exactly the right place at exactly the right time.

10 Nov 2010, 10:15 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Its more common in young people who have not progressed to "serious relationship" or "love" phase. I think in your case its more about his age than being aspie.

You should not give up because of this, it may not even be the reason in your case.


A rare case in which I disagree with @hale_bopp.

You would be hard pressed to find an 18-year-old NT male who would turn down a "sure thing" for any reason. But many Aspie men in this forum have reported that their feelings for a person can essentially cease to exist - like turning off a light switch. I'm not saying all Aspie men, or even a majority of Aspie men, experience this....but some do.


_________________
What you feel is what you are and what you are is beautiful...


Asp-Z
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Dec 2009
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,018

10 Nov 2010, 10:21 am

Aspies, generally speaking, are s**t with emotions. I know I am. Can cause all sorts of problems. For example, it not unusual for me not to understand what I'm feeling about something until months later. Perhaps that's what happened here.



HopeGrows
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,565
Location: In exactly the right place at exactly the right time.

10 Nov 2010, 12:11 pm

@Taurus and @AspZ raise very good points: many Aspies experience emotional processing delays. As they both described, it can sometimes take weeks or months to realize their genuine emotional response to an issue. And there does seem to be a kind of permanence to the new emotional state: once the "reversal" has occurred, there often doesn't seem to be much room for discussion.

So maybe the "falling out of love" response that some Aspies experience is really just a symptom of a processing delay?


_________________
What you feel is what you are and what you are is beautiful...


cmjust0
Blue Jay
Blue Jay

User avatar

Joined: 7 Oct 2010
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Posts: 96

10 Nov 2010, 12:46 pm

Silverweed wrote:
This was the first time either of us had ever been in a relationship. We were making out in his car and he seemed quite into it when all of a sudden, he said, “Let’s go for a drive.” During the drive, he was very quiet – which is highly unusual for him. Right before he took me home, he asked me how I would like it if we just stayed friends.
...
The thing is... he really wanted to have sex. And don't get me wrong, I wasn't unwilling. We were going to do it but we were held up because I was saving up money to buy morning after-pills. In fact, on the way over to pick me up, he actually asked me whether or not I had them yet.
...
We were going to have sex.
...
I was willing to do the deed, though. I only wanted to make sure that I had protection in case the condom broke. And I told him this.


Ok, I'm confused. What I can't figure out is whether or not the make-out session was progressing to sex RIGHT THEN.

I ask because I think it's important to understand exactly what he bailed on here.. Did he freak and bail when his first experience with sex was imminently approaching, or did he simply bail in the middle of a simple make-out session that wasn't going anywhere?

HUGE difference.



Silverweed
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 7 Nov 2009
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 73
Location: United States

10 Nov 2010, 2:13 pm

Quote:
What I can't figure out is whether or not the make-out session was progressing to sex RIGHT THEN.

I ask because I think it's important to understand exactly what he bailed on here.. Did he freak and bail when his first experience with sex was imminently approaching, or did he simply bail in the middle of a simple make-out session that wasn't going anywhere?

HUGE difference.


Well no, we weren't going to have sex right then, as in, on that particular day. He asked me whether or not I had the Plan B 1-Step pill yet, and I didn't. But either way, he was the one who initiated the making out. He literally stopped being attracted to me within the period of a couple hours.


But it wasn't that we weren't going anywhere altogether. We were planning on having sex. The relationship was headed in that direction.




Quote:
Are you sure you didn't do something that he mistook as a sign that you would demand a steady relationship after you had sex?


Definitely not. I'm not the type of person who gets fussy about that sort of thing. I didn't really make any demands on him in the relationship... I pretty much let him go at his own pace. I'm flexible.


Quote:
I don't know whether it has to do with my AS, but I have a history of getting very cold feet - often very suddenly. It's like "snapping out of it" and suddenly realising that "this is not right for me".


In those cases, was it totally random? Did you "snap out of it" for no particular reason, or did the person do something to make you lose the attraction?



Zoma
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

User avatar

Joined: 8 Nov 2010
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 8

10 Nov 2010, 2:48 pm

I would love to have a nice girl like yourself as a mate. i am lonely right now whether or not its desperation driving me towards you i don't know. but i am nice and i will be faithful if you give me a chance. i am 4 years older than you though i don't know if that's a problem but my interests are random and my dislikes are strange for a male too.



cmjust0
Blue Jay
Blue Jay

User avatar

Joined: 7 Oct 2010
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Posts: 96

10 Nov 2010, 3:01 pm

Well...just because he asked if you had the pills yet doesn't mean he wanted to have sex that night. In fact, he may have been secretly praying that you *didn't* have them yet because he knew he wasn't ready. That was, afterall, the reason he gave for his change of heart....that he wasn't ready for all the potential complications that come along with a relationship. And the simple fact that he brought up the subject of how your relationship was coming along in the days before the breakup would seem to indicate that it's something that had been on his mind lately..

In other words, this may not be as abrupt as it seemed. A cursory glance at the situation reveals *a number* of potential stressors -- a new relationship, a first relationship, losing one's virginity, fear about an unwanted pregnancy, potentially losing a good friend to a failed relationship, etc -- yet *nothing* is mentioned about him seeming stressed.

My gut tells me he'd probably been hiding a lot of stress and fear for a while....bottling it up. For whatever reason, the cork popped out and all that stress and fear just came crashing down on him at once and he kinda freaked right in the middle of making out. And the simple fact that you two were making out at the time, and that he'd initiated it, and that you don't seem to have sensed his stress tells me that this guy *really* tried to hold it together for as long as possible....but finally just *broke.*

When he finally broke, though, he *asked* if you'd be ok with just remaining friends. Most times, the talk goes something like "I think we should just be friends" -- but he asked if that would be OK. He obviously wanted to avoid losing you for good. He wants you in his life.

If you're still speaking as friends, see if you can get him to talk more about his stress levels during the whole thing. If you can get him to open up about it, validate it. Reassure him that his fears and stress was founded, and that it's OK to feel that way.. I really think if you can get him to open up and say all the things he didn't feel like he could say before, you're going to figure out that he was scared out of his mind but didn't want to show it because...yanno..."real men" aren't supposed to be scared of girls...or whatever.



Silverweed
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 7 Nov 2009
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 73
Location: United States

10 Nov 2010, 3:13 pm

Quote:
He wants you in his life.


The thing is, he hasn't been talking to me for 3 weeks. We go to the same school and he's been avoiding me like the plague. Every time I've seen him since then, he looked stressed and unhappy and moves away every time I'm within a few feet of him. It's clear that he's not comfortable around me, so I've been staying out of his way -- giving him his space.



cmjust0
Blue Jay
Blue Jay

User avatar

Joined: 7 Oct 2010
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Posts: 96

10 Nov 2010, 3:30 pm

Silverweed wrote:
Quote:
He wants you in his life.


The thing is, he hasn't been talking to me for 3 weeks. We go to the same school and he's been avoiding me like the plague. Every time I've seen him since then, he looked stressed and unhappy and moves away every time I'm within a few feet of him. It's clear that he's not comfortable around me, so I've been staying out of his way -- giving him his space.


Ok, so he's embarrassed about the way he acted. Points even more to the "real man" vs. him thing.

How do you suspect he might react if you decided NOT to give him his space, but instead cornered him and just told him that you MISS him. Doesn't have to be a big convoluted "BABY COME BACK!" cornering, either...you're just trying to let him know that you miss having him to talk to.

He might be surprised. He may be interpreting the space you're giving him as an acknowledgement that he *should* be embarrassed around you.

Maybe..

What's your gut say about that?



hyperlexian
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
Age: 54
Gender: Female
Posts: 22,023
Location: with bucephalus

10 Nov 2010, 3:31 pm

i have experienced the sudden disinterest in men who i was formerly attracted to - many times. it really is like a light switch turning off. there is always a reason, but it isn't always based on something that the other person can change.

usually i will just suddenly realize i do not love the person and therefore nothing long-term can come from the relationship. from that moment forward, almost everything about that person will disgust and annoy me - everything from a stray ear hair to the smell of their car will turn me off.

when it happens, the other person is completely befuddled, upset and chagrined. nothing can change my feelings at that point, though a couple of times i stayed in a relationship with the person for a very brief period. if i don't break up with the person right away (due to timing or second thoughts on my part), i start to pick arguments constantly. everything becomes a huge deal. but usually, they didn't even see it coming.

it has even happened with people who i was not dating but was just attracted to, like a friend. then they are even MORE confused about the change in my behaviour!


the final makeout session may have been your boyfriend's test for himself, to see whether he was sure about what he wanted to do. one last time to see if anything changed about how he felt...


_________________
on a break, so if you need assistance please contact another moderator from this list:
viewtopic.php?t=391105


Silverweed
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 7 Nov 2009
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 73
Location: United States

10 Nov 2010, 5:46 pm

Quote:
How do you suspect he might react if you decided NOT to give him his space, but instead cornered him and just told him that you MISS him.


It probably would not bode well. Regardless of me, I know that he's been stressed out these past few weeks because of some other things. He got in a car accident (this happened about 8 days after the breakup) and for some reason, he's really angry at the people in our little group of friends. He's been avoiding us altogether. I'm pretty sure that any attempt to reach out to him would tick him off and provoke him even more. And besides, what good would it do? He's not interested in me anymore. Talking to him about it isn't going to change that.



cmjust0
Blue Jay
Blue Jay

User avatar

Joined: 7 Oct 2010
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Posts: 96

11 Nov 2010, 11:41 am

If he's just being avoidant, how do you know he's actually *angry* at your circle of friends?

Maybe he's just thinking you've probably told them what happened and he's embarrassed to be around them now? To me, that makes more sense than him being angry for no apparent reason and showing his anger through avoidance..

So far as what good it would do, it may do no good at all if he's truly angry and has no interest in you anymore. But if you're mistaking embarrassment for anger and/or disinterest, then you might be able to tell him -- in not so many words, of course -- that he's got nothing to be embarrassed about, and that you still care about him.

Just sayin'.