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14 Jan 2011, 7:32 pm

Creepy is ultimately subjective, like pretty, or cute, or funny. It means whatever an individual thinks it means. Almost anything can be interpreted as creepy depending on the individual doing the interpreting. Perhaps this explains why we see the word so often.

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14 Jan 2011, 7:35 pm

Zur-Darkstar wrote:

Ooo, perhaps. I know some girls at the place I used to work at used to interpret weird stuff as creepy. Maybe I was missing something.

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14 Jan 2011, 7:40 pm

jamesongerbil wrote:

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hale_bopp wrote:

Actually girls get called creeps too. I still stand by my description.

Nowhere near as much as men, all men are cast as predators or potential sexual predators in modern society. This is partially the basis behind all the "creep" talk, it's not about the word it's about how we as males are treated as human beings.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118903209653018615.html

Don't be silly. That's not true. "All" is a gross generalization.
Creepiness can also be context based. My fiancee who has been seen as creepy applying for a position at a preschool would not be creepy in a football uniform or at the head of a Viking ship. Of course he has a killer stare that may give people the chills on purpose.
Take my avatar, Chef. He was only creepy in that one episode where he was brainwashed by the Super Adventure Club. (Even when he blatantly sings about sex. I don't think that's creepy as much as simply being South Park.) As opposed to Mr. Makey, who is not really creepy at all, and Mr. Garrison, who is nearly always creepy. It's what you say, and do, and appear as. As a female, I know I've been thought of as creepy. I simply don't have the social where-with-all. It's why the typical Jock or Prep or, idk, Frat Bro isn't normally seen as creepy. They're the cool people, with the social acumen, who can manipulate people and can say and do the right things at the right time. Of course, they can also be a date-rapist, or a user and abuser. Who knows. Maybe you don't have the social acumen, which is why you are talking like this.

Look here, a respected online journal publishes things many millions of men around the world feel. Your experience is not millions of other men, stuff it because you obvious don't understand much about how other people do not experience the world like you do and have lived different lives and have suffered.

http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/ ... ne_british

This is what men deal with, you can try to brush it off with your inane ignorant BS but the fact that these things exist speak volumes of how stupid most people really are. Take your shaming language and female BS and shove it.

Why do you think there are so few male teachers?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... le1754769/

This is common knowledge that men live with prejudice from the stupid masses everyday and so they seek to avoid jobs where they will be seen as predators.

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I'm a freshly-graduated male elementary school teacher who is looking for a job, and I have to say, for each person that I meet that says it's great I want to teach kindergarten, I have another who is instantly suspicious. "

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14 Jan 2011, 8:52 pm

hale_bopp wrote:

Creepy is a vibe. It's a vibe to the person who thinks the other is creepy, that their personal space is invaded or their personal safety is at risk. It's a feeling of discomfort caused by the "creepy" person.

Absolutely true of course, but the real point of this thread is:

1. At what point do you slap the label "creep" on someone? "Giving off a creepy vibe" is very subjective, and often applied without any rational justification whatever.

2. Since Aspies seem to be prone to doing this, how can it be prevented? Being labeled a "creep" is not only toxic to relationships, it can have serious legal and even fatal consequences.

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14 Jan 2011, 9:44 pm

What I find funny is I have seen guys go up to girls they know and ask them out, the girl is not interested and says "get away from me, creep.". But if a guy that the girl likes goes up to her, does the excect same thing and says the same thing the creep did, and that's ok.

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14 Jan 2011, 10:17 pm

Depends on who you are I guess. For me, creepy is the guy who wants to date me before he gets to know me...lol. Yeah, yeah, I know...it's a little backwards...but that's why I'm on WP and not some other forum

I will admit though, there are those who give off the creepy wife beater, stalker, or child molester vibes. In most cases, I'm pretty good at spotting those and usually correct in my assessments.

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14 Jan 2011, 11:01 pm

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I will admit though, there are those who give off the creepy wife beater, stalker, or child molester vibes. In most cases, I'm pretty good at spotting those and usually correct in my assessments.

Actually that's the only order that makes sense to me. Wouldn't anyone want to know quite a bit about a person before they started dating. Dating random strangers while getting to know them doesn't strike me as the most efficient way of doing things, but then the world is seldom as efficient as I would like it to be.

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14 Jan 2011, 11:34 pm

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3.The Child-Molester Creep- Someone who seeks a relationship with someone who is far less mature. I think this might not necessarily a factor of chronological age difference in every case, but it's a good indicator, and of course you are an actual child molester, you're more than just a creep.

When you say far less mature; do you mean less mature than normal NTs or less mature than yourself

I might fall into this category. I tend to like girls a lot younger than me because I feel they are more on the same level as me. Some think I'm a pedo because of my taste in music & my offensive sense of humor. Lots of people think I'm a creep because I say & do things that aren't quite normal/rite or because of my facial expressions

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14 Jan 2011, 11:47 pm

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quesonrias wrote:

I will admit though, there are those who give off the creepy wife beater, stalker, or child molester vibes. In most cases, I'm pretty good at spotting those and usually correct in my assessments.

When I was younger I always said that I wanted to marry a guy that I had known for a long time, maybe even someone I had been friends with growing up. I did not have any specific guys in mind, and honestly I can't think of any growing up I would have wanted to marry, much less date...but I liked the idea. lol!!

My lack of a desire to throw the doors of my heart, soul, and mind wide open to a complete stranger has always driven the guys I've dated a bit crazy. I tell them to take time, enjoy the process, and they tell me they are hurt because I don't trust them. My mind always races to, "What?!?! You really think I should trust you, a random stranger, just because you're what?? You?" That is something I will never understand...how NT guys think that you should just trust them just because.

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14 Jan 2011, 11:57 pm

What is creepy?

When I was a teenager I had a friend who was good looking and came from a wealthy family.
In other words he was an "alpha"

He could walk up to a girl, put his arm around her and say "Hello baby, where have you been all my life?"

They would giggle and go along with it.

Another friend who wasn't as good looking and was very awkward would try the same thing only to have the girl recoil in horror.

Go figure.

Me? I was somewhere in the middle.

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15 Jan 2011, 12:34 am

The perception of creepiness is simply a cognitive bias, an act of cognitive laziness, in the person thinking someone else is creepy. it's how they define strangeness or otherness they can't quite define but without having to think too hard about things that aren't immediately familiar to them. It just makes it permissible to their minds to dismiss a person who is different.

I went on a tear about this on a non-AS forum where a number of people were joking about a current public figure who may have AS himself who struck them as creepy. I posted a few videos of people with AS, including one of Alex Plank, and asked them if they thought those people were creepy too. Then I laid it out for them--that their "vibe" of creepiness was just them making intuitive and largely uninformed judgment calls on people whose eye contact, body language, communication style and appearance was unusual and undefinable to them. And then I compared it to the kind of thing people say about gay people.

Some people got the message. Others got defensive. But that was over two weeks ago and i have yet to see a single person on that forum call that public figure "creepy" since.

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15 Jan 2011, 1:08 am

Creep is exclusive to the person. If a guy I don't like comes onto me, it does not automatically make him a creep.

Things that define creepy to me are usually anti social sort of guys who stare a lot. I know ALL of them are not bad people. That is just sort of stealthy and "creepy" behaviour.

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15 Jan 2011, 1:17 am

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Come on hale_bopp, admit it.

If a "tall dark and hansom" guy with a six pack comes on to you, your heart is going "pitter pat"

But if he is chubby or wimpy you are disgusted.

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15 Jan 2011, 1:33 am

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I've found that while guys are less likely to call a girl "creepy" ("creep" is an entirely different word), they're not any less likely to think of her as creepy. Guys seem to prefer the word "weird," though, although most of the time they just snort or exchange amused glances with their friends when they're approached by girls they're not interested in.

I just saw Black Swan and the girl played by Natalie Portman is exactly the kind of girl guys would think of as creepy. Maybe not on the surface, but once they get to know her they'll think of her as creepy.

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15 Jan 2011, 1:58 am

Wombat wrote:

hale_bopp wrote:

Come on hale_bopp, admit it.

If a "tall dark and hansom" guy with a six pack comes on to you, your heart is going "pitter pat"

But if he is chubby or wimpy you are disgusted.

You obviously don't know me very well then do you? I don't know how many threads there are with me saying I'm not automatically attracted to "hot" guys. 6 packs.. -meh. Whats so great about them? I've had chubby people come onto me, old people, weird looking people, nice looking people, guys with "6 packs" and none of it matters. I don't like dating and am not interested. I like to make friends, and let things develop if they are meant to.

I've actually had a lot of very nasty backlash from hot looking guys, alpha males and 6 pack dicks for not liking them. They expect anyone female to like them, and when they don't, they make very bitchy and very nasty statements about how ugly and gross - and in my case - extremely weird you are. Who the hell wants someone like that?

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15 Jan 2011, 2:39 am

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This is a very good description of how I'm guessing it goes.

It's part of a larger picture of how a typical person's emotions seem to work, in that people tend to have a relatively small number of emotional responses or mood states that they recognize in others, and if a person does not display these, that person is deemed "alien" and is therefore rejected in some way.

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