Thinking about disclosing my AS on OKCupid.

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26 Jan 2011, 2:31 pm

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I've been very pleasantly surprised with how much knowledge there seems to be out there about the condition as well as how understanding and accomodating women have been about it.

So based on my experience I would definitely recommend it.
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My experience is they don't. They assume aspergers is a form of learning difficulty. This include most psychologists, doctors, social workers and even a few autism experts. They don't realise that they only get into contact with people with AS with special needs. That is not representative of all people with aspergers. None of them has been on a asperger get together, none have the time.

Don't do it on dating websites unless you receive tones of messages and need to filter them down, or on a free dating website and willing to wait for them to reply to you by email and only using it as secondary way of finding someone.

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This in fact, is the reason why I didn't put AS on my profile in the first place. However, I don't seem to be getting any dates on there anyway. So, I thought I would just experiment to see if disclosure of AS does indeed cause a drop in my ratings, just like Grisha did. Grisha seems to of gotten better results than he expected though.



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26 Jan 2011, 2:32 pm

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disclosure should happen @ 3 months or more into the relationship. Anything less and you're just sabotaging yourself ... so no, never put as on your profile, ever, if you ever want a relationship ...


This would be better.


That's mostly the advice I've been following up until now.



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26 Jan 2011, 10:20 pm

I was out about being an Aspie.......Some people wouldn't give me the time of day...which was great because it worked to keep judgmental stupid people away. And i met the most incredible woman on that site and I <3 her so much. Because of my surgery we haven't even had a date but she's there for me everyday and helps keep me positive.


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26 Jan 2011, 10:59 pm

Jono wrote:
Aspie_Chav wrote:
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disclosure should happen @ 3 months or more into the relationship. Anything less and you're just sabotaging yourself ... so no, never put as on your profile, ever, if you ever want a relationship ...


This would be better.


That's mostly the advice I've been following up until now.


3 months can be a long time, or a short one. It really depends on frequency and depth of interaction, and a judgement on how they will likely take disclosure. There are no hard and fast rules you can apply or follow.

Disclosure can be managed in better or worse ways. If you trust your ability to communicate about autism in a positive way, disclose away.

One factor that we cannot account for will be any previous encounter with the label that was positive or negative. Short of asking, "Soooo... ever hear of Asperger's syndrome?" there's no way to gauge that.

I disclosed to someone recently having known them for less than a week. A slight risk at the time. It seems to have gone well. My intuition serves me well.

I wouldn't take Grisha's success as entirely down to disclosure, he's been around for a long time agonising over and analysing his particular problems with dating. Possibly, he just came to the end of his process. Breakthrough.

I would hazard a guess that his recent absences from this part of the forum are an indication that he is currently enjoying at least some success in the field of dating.

In summary; the question doesn't have a simple binary disclose/not disclose answer. It's more complex than that. I would go on a case by case basis, and I would not disclose on the profile, as that leaves you without any flexibility.


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26 Jan 2011, 11:07 pm

Jesus. I've tried disclosing my AS and was on their for ages without it and i still havent had a message. The advice in this thread is quite polarised. I think we need a poll.



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26 Jan 2011, 11:26 pm

i put it on my profile. I got quite a lot of messages and responses. i can't say how many of them would have turned into relationships but one did :D



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26 Jan 2011, 11:31 pm

Jesus do you guys all look like George Clooney or what? :lol:



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27 Jan 2011, 2:55 pm

Moog wrote:
Jono wrote:
Aspie_Chav wrote:
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disclosure should happen @ 3 months or more into the relationship. Anything less and you're just sabotaging yourself ... so no, never put as on your profile, ever, if you ever want a relationship ...


This would be better.


That's mostly the advice I've been following up until now.


3 months can be a long time, or a short one. It really depends on frequency and depth of interaction, and a judgement on how they will likely take disclosure. There are no hard and fast rules you can apply or follow.

Disclosure can be managed in better or worse ways. If you trust your ability to communicate about autism in a positive way, disclose away.

One factor that we cannot account for will be any previous encounter with the label that was positive or negative. Short of asking, "Soooo... ever hear of Asperger's syndrome?" there's no way to gauge that.

I disclosed to someone recently having known them for less than a week. A slight risk at the time. It seems to have gone well. My intuition serves me well.

I wouldn't take Grisha's success as entirely down to disclosure, he's been around for a long time agonising over and analysing his particular problems with dating. Possibly, he just came to the end of his process. Breakthrough.

I would hazard a guess that his recent absences from this part of the forum are an indication that he is currently enjoying at least some success in the field of dating.

In summary; the question doesn't have a simple binary disclose/not disclose answer. It's more complex than that. I would go on a case by case basis, and I would not disclose on the profile, as that leaves you without any flexibility.


That sounds makes more sense. Previously, I wouldn't of disclosed mine until we met though. Some of the new people who I've sent messages to this week haven't logged in again yet, so I'll wait for a while before I try disclose my AS. I think it's about time that I update and improve my profile as well.



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27 Jan 2011, 2:56 pm

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Jesus do you guys all look like George Clooney or what? :lol:


Either that or they earn big fat salaries.



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27 Jan 2011, 3:03 pm

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Jesus do you guys all look like George Clooney or what? :lol:


I do, but I don't let it hold me back :wink:


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27 Jan 2011, 4:41 pm

Jono wrote:
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Jesus do you guys all look like George Clooney or what? :lol:


Either that or they earn big fat salaries.


ugly and broke checking in..... :shrug:


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28 Jan 2011, 12:13 am

Look, whether disclosing AS is gonna be negative or positive all depends on the kind of guy you are and the kind of girl you're looking for

For me, there was never any question about putting As on my profile. I did, and it's still there now. Plenty of girls have messaged me without being put off by that. I can't see AS bothering the kind of girls I'd be interested in.

Also waiting till 3 months into a relatiosnship to tell them you have AS is ridiculous - that's just making it pout to be some kind of major thing. If they're gonna be bothered by your AS, then why waste your time ?



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28 Jan 2011, 12:40 pm

I've emailed a couple people on there and gotten some replies. I put my AS in the "most private thing you're willing to admit". I haven't had any dates yet, but girls are still talking to me despite the fact I'm open about AS. I talked to a girl on another site where I don't put on there that I have AS, and when I told her I had it, she is still talking to me. The decision to disclose or not would not seem to be a significant factor. Perhaps the way you state it makes a difference. If you come across as confident and well adjusted (not apologetic), people may admire you for overcoming adversity.

Further, I'd rather lower my response rate and find better quality people than be deceptive and secretive and get lots of people that will run as soon as they find out the real me. That strikes me as a stupid and inefficient way to go about things. Save the "that's how the NT world works" speech. I'm well aware of that and don't particularly care. I'm not so desperate to be in a relationship that I'll try to be someone I'm not just so girls will talk to me. I'm fine the way I am and if girls don't like that, then I'll be fine alone. I no longer have the inclination to pretend to be anything other than what I am. Regardless of the reason, money, love, status, w/e, it's just going to cause problems in the end. The people that are open-minded enough to consider someone who is not "normal" are the only ones I'm looking for.



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28 Jan 2011, 12:40 pm

So did you tell her your a spazz in the end?


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28 Jan 2011, 5:49 pm

Volodja wrote:
Look, whether disclosing AS is gonna be negative or positive all depends on the kind of guy you are and the kind of girl you're looking for

For me, there was never any question about putting As on my profile. I did, and it's still there now. Plenty of girls have messaged me without being put off by that. I can't see AS bothering the kind of girls I'd be interested in.

Also waiting till 3 months into a relatiosnship to tell them you have AS is ridiculous - that's just making it pout to be some kind of major thing. If they're gonna be bothered by your AS, then why waste your time ?


One of the problems of putting AS in your profile is that not everyone who reads it is going to know what AS is and it could be a complicated thing to explain. I wouldn't wait for 3 months into a relationship before telling telling someone but I agree with Moog's statement that you should tell them when you're ready or when you feel they would be receptive.



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28 Jan 2011, 5:54 pm

I say go for it. especially if you are looking for someone else with asperger's. If it doesn't matter to you if they are on the spectrum, I might wait awhile.