Some notes on OKCupid
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starygrrl wrote:
OKcupid most users will not take you seriously unless you answer several hundred questions, honestly close to 1000. Also OKcupid skews younger and more towards casual dating. If you are only looking for something serious early on you will get a pass and less hits. I can go into all the details, but there is an art and methodology to OKcupid, you have to be aware of it to make it work for you. I get tons of hits and tons of guys flirting, even when it is pretty clear I don't respond often and I am in a relationship. But I am also open and poly, which gets higher response rates on OKcupid. Even though I am not looking now.
Education and income also matter to OKcupid, it is literally in many cases a dating site for the highly educated. There is also a response matrix within OKcupid, who and who will not be more likely to get responses. Basically OKcupid pays off for educated users who understand how OKcupid works and appreciate the matching algorithms. Most people will not respond to folks below a certian very high match %. My match % with my partner is 96% for example. He is an Alphanerd who played an important role with regards to the foundational structure of the internet, I am an analyst who has an interest in the singularity. There is such a positive feedback loop for us that we improve each others intellectual capabilities and knowledge base.
OKcupid rewards smart users and casual daters, and those who are bit more outside the norm. Eharmony is more for those who are hetro-normative looking to get married. If somebody asked me if Okcupid was right for them, I would have to go through a litany of questions. Its not right for everybody. Its right for the people in the creative and knowledge class more than anything, the freaks and geeks.
What I am saying it really depends on what you are looking for.
Education and income also matter to OKcupid, it is literally in many cases a dating site for the highly educated. There is also a response matrix within OKcupid, who and who will not be more likely to get responses. Basically OKcupid pays off for educated users who understand how OKcupid works and appreciate the matching algorithms. Most people will not respond to folks below a certian very high match %. My match % with my partner is 96% for example. He is an Alphanerd who played an important role with regards to the foundational structure of the internet, I am an analyst who has an interest in the singularity. There is such a positive feedback loop for us that we improve each others intellectual capabilities and knowledge base.
OKcupid rewards smart users and casual daters, and those who are bit more outside the norm. Eharmony is more for those who are hetro-normative looking to get married. If somebody asked me if Okcupid was right for them, I would have to go through a litany of questions. Its not right for everybody. Its right for the people in the creative and knowledge class more than anything, the freaks and geeks.
What I am saying it really depends on what you are looking for.
So with 1700 something questions answered I'm already off to a great start. Maybe my bachelors and 40-50k might not be enough education though? I talk about being in-depth into music, philosophy, and martial arts.... I don't 'think' I'd come off as a dumb jock but, what do I know.
I think it could just be that it doesn't work the same way for everyone, ie. everyone could do it right and get very different results. I'd swear by now though, from a guy's side with women, it seems like it has much less to do with a good profile and much more to do with the nonverbals your giving off in your main photo, what kind of role you project, how weathered or virile you look, etc.
Photo quality is VERY important for OKcupid. Your face should be clear, but in the regular photo your whole body should be visible as well. Like I said, OKcupid is really about leverging understanding how the system works.
I am not sure its the non-verbals in the photo at all. It is just that alot of guys write profiles expressing thier interests to much, and sometimes they just don't come off right to women. Believe it or not women do analyze the profiles more on OKcupid, if you want to pm me your name I can tell what you are doing wrong and how to improve what is there. I have helped guys with this before.
starygrrl wrote:
Looking for marriage intially is not good for OKcupid. The truth is the average person these days wants to test people out in a casual relationship first and move on from there if it works. I am not saying there are not successful relationships there, but the site is more reflective of its younger gen x and y urban userbase. "Looking for marriage" is kind of a red flag these days whether you are male or female, they are more cautious about that type of committment. They want to make sure the relationship works, often for several years, before getting married. In fact there is a geographic divide. The early marriage types in the south are also more likely to get divorced, while the people in Mass. who tend to get married in thier thirties and often have established LTR for years before getting married, have a much lower divorce rate. I can go into the reasons for this, but my advice is NOT TO LOOK FOR MARRIAGE. Look for a short term or long term relationship, drop looking for marriage out of your profile even if that is what you ultimately want, just be more aware that these days getting to the marriage point may take years.
I personally only put new friends and long term relationship on my profile. I don't think marriage is even an option. But even if it were, I wouldn't put it on there. I need a few months to a few years of friendship before trusting a woman enough to try a relationship with her, and then a couple years of relationship before I'd feel comfortable enough for marriage, much like you mentioned about people from the northeast. The problem is, because of this long period, I need to really meet someone pretty much now (within the next couple of years), or I'll be 42 before i'd be ready to marry, and by that point I won't be able to start a family unless I got with a girl that was much younger...
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starygrrl wrote:
Looking for marriage intially is not good for OKcupid. I am not saying there are not successful relationships there, but the site is more reflective of its younger gen x and y urban userbase. "Looking for marriage" is kind of a red flag these days whether you are male or female, they are more cautious about that type of committment.
I am gen Y.
If that's the case for people of my age, it reaffirms that the person I'm looking for is much older.
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ToadOfSteel wrote:
starygrrl wrote:
Looking for marriage intially is not good for OKcupid. The truth is the average person these days wants to test people out in a casual relationship first and move on from there if it works. I am not saying there are not successful relationships there, but the site is more reflective of its younger gen x and y urban userbase. "Looking for marriage" is kind of a red flag these days whether you are male or female, they are more cautious about that type of committment. They want to make sure the relationship works, often for several years, before getting married. In fact there is a geographic divide. The early marriage types in the south are also more likely to get divorced, while the people in Mass. who tend to get married in thier thirties and often have established LTR for years before getting married, have a much lower divorce rate. I can go into the reasons for this, but my advice is NOT TO LOOK FOR MARRIAGE. Look for a short term or long term relationship, drop looking for marriage out of your profile even if that is what you ultimately want, just be more aware that these days getting to the marriage point may take years.
I personally only put new friends and long term relationship on my profile. I don't think marriage is even an option. But even if it were, I wouldn't put it on there. I need a few months to a few years of friendship before trusting a woman enough to try a relationship with her, and then a couple years of relationship before I'd feel comfortable enough for marriage, much like you mentioned about people from the northeast. The problem is, because of this long period, I need to really meet someone pretty much now (within the next couple of years), or I'll be 42 before i'd be ready to marry, and by that point I won't be able to start a family unless I got with a girl that was much younger...
There's a difference in looking for the person you want to marry
and looking for the person you want to marry a day after meeting.
I just don't/can't do the "casual" dating thing-
in my experience it's a euphemism used by people who want to date other people at the same time and have casual sex.
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techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Zur-Darkstar wrote:
I think part of the problem with OKCupid may be that when you answer a lot of questions, you are much more likely to catch one that is a dealbreaker for the other person. I don't know if this is a good or bad thing, but I suspect it happens.
Do they even sit there and read through all the questions though? When most of the girls viewing my page are between 50 and 70% it seems like they've been far from ambitious in terms of looking at substance.
Well, I've found plenty that have answered 200+questions, probably about half the profiles I've visited. I am willing to bet if they're taking the time to answer them, they're at least glancing at other people's answers.
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starygrrl wrote:
OKcupid most users will not take you seriously unless you answer several hundred questions, honestly close to 1000. Also OKcupid skews younger and more towards casual dating. If you are only looking for something serious early on you will get a pass and less hits. I can go into all the details, but there is an art and methodology to OKcupid, you have to be aware of it to make it work for you. I get tons of hits and tons of guys flirting, even when it is pretty clear I don't respond often and I am in a relationship. But I am also open and poly, which gets higher response rates on OKcupid. Even though I am not looking now.
Education and income also matter to OKcupid, it is literally in many cases a dating site for the highly educated. There is also a response matrix within OKcupid, who and who will not be more likely to get responses. Basically OKcupid pays off for educated users who understand how OKcupid works and appreciate the matching algorithms. Most people will not respond to folks below a certian very high match %. My match % with my partner is 96% for example. He is an Alphanerd who played an important role with regards to the foundational structure of the internet, I am an analyst who has an interest in the singularity. There is such a positive feedback loop for us that we improve each others intellectual capabilities and knowledge base.
OKcupid rewards smart users and casual daters, and those who are bit more outside the norm. Eharmony is more for those who are hetro-normative looking to get married. If somebody asked me if Okcupid was right for them, I would have to go through a litany of questions. Its not right for everybody. Its right for the people in the creative and knowledge class more than anything, the freaks and geeks.
What I am saying it really depends on what you are looking for.
Education and income also matter to OKcupid, it is literally in many cases a dating site for the highly educated. There is also a response matrix within OKcupid, who and who will not be more likely to get responses. Basically OKcupid pays off for educated users who understand how OKcupid works and appreciate the matching algorithms. Most people will not respond to folks below a certian very high match %. My match % with my partner is 96% for example. He is an Alphanerd who played an important role with regards to the foundational structure of the internet, I am an analyst who has an interest in the singularity. There is such a positive feedback loop for us that we improve each others intellectual capabilities and knowledge base.
OKcupid rewards smart users and casual daters, and those who are bit more outside the norm. Eharmony is more for those who are hetro-normative looking to get married. If somebody asked me if Okcupid was right for them, I would have to go through a litany of questions. Its not right for everybody. Its right for the people in the creative and knowledge class more than anything, the freaks and geeks.
What I am saying it really depends on what you are looking for.
I think this is pretty accurate. I think the matching algorithm is quite accurate (hubby and I are 99% match, one guy I've seen a couple of times and get along with GREAT is also a 99%, and another guy who I get along with super-great is a 93%, both are geeky and educated like me). I don't know about the younger thing, I'm in my 40s and I have my "age range" set at 30-59 and there are plenty of guys in that age range who send me messages.
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starygrrl wrote:
Photo quality is VERY important for OKcupid. Your face should be clear, but in the regular photo your whole body should be visible as well. Like I said, OKcupid is really about leverging understanding how the system works.
The photo quality is great on OKCupid, grainy on Eharmony and doing much better apparently.
I am not sure its the non-verbals in the photo at all. It is just that alot of guys write profiles expressing thier interests to much, and sometimes they just don't come off right to women.[/quote]
The only thing I did that might have been too much disclosure was actually naming the bands or producers in the genres I like, I only did that because I've heard from people that I look like soft rock or country kind of guy and started to wonder if the first-half of my nonresponders were people questioning my credentials.
starygrrl wrote:
Believe it or not women do analyze the profiles more on OKcupid, if you want to pm me your name I can tell what you are doing wrong and how to improve what is there. I have helped guys with this before.
Can you explain to me then why most of the views I get average between 50 an 70% match? If they were paying as much attention as you say they are that wouldn't be happening, if anything I feel like I'm being incredibly uptight and by-the-book in comparison by keeping to 80% and up and by vibing up profiles to see if we have anything to offer each other before I make contact.
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ToadOfSteel wrote:
starygrrl wrote:
Looking for marriage intially is not good for OKcupid. The truth is the average person these days wants to test people out in a casual relationship first and move on from there if it works. I am not saying there are not successful relationships there, but the site is more reflective of its younger gen x and y urban userbase. "Looking for marriage" is kind of a red flag these days whether you are male or female, they are more cautious about that type of committment. They want to make sure the relationship works, often for several years, before getting married. In fact there is a geographic divide. The early marriage types in the south are also more likely to get divorced, while the people in Mass. who tend to get married in thier thirties and often have established LTR for years before getting married, have a much lower divorce rate. I can go into the reasons for this, but my advice is NOT TO LOOK FOR MARRIAGE. Look for a short term or long term relationship, drop looking for marriage out of your profile even if that is what you ultimately want, just be more aware that these days getting to the marriage point may take years.
I personally only put new friends and long term relationship on my profile. I don't think marriage is even an option. But even if it were, I wouldn't put it on there. I need a few months to a few years of friendship before trusting a woman enough to try a relationship with her, and then a couple years of relationship before I'd feel comfortable enough for marriage, much like you mentioned about people from the northeast. The problem is, because of this long period, I need to really meet someone pretty much now (within the next couple of years), or I'll be 42 before i'd be ready to marry, and by that point I won't be able to start a family unless I got with a girl that was much younger...
There's a difference in looking for the person you want to marry
and looking for the person you want to marry a day after meeting.
I just don't/can't do the "casual" dating thing-
in my experience it's a euphemism used by people who want to date other people at the same time and have casual sex.
In general you want to put short term or long term relationship then. The marriage thing is such a red flag, especially for gen Y, its a generational thing. Though you are in the south, so its a more marriage early prone place, but the divorce rate is higher too.
