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Daredevil-Aspie
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04 Apr 2011, 9:12 am

Aspies struggle with social skills. This is a fact. It acts as evidence. I've lurked around this forum a while and have seen numerous threads about "how to" (Alpha Male guide being a prominent one), and many Aspies are indeed struggling with complex methods. This is a fact and also acts as evidence toward my original post. They're trying to be something that's unnatural to them, as I stated, and this could be why "awkward" is the buzz phrase around here. It's perfectly sensible to say that a dog walking around going "Meow!" would come across as pretty awkward to most people.

I could go with a lot LESS than that, and calling it a theory would STILL be accurate. So what was your point again?



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04 Apr 2011, 9:44 am

Apparently, I offended someone for what I said-
I am truly sorry you have anger issues and felt the need to message me calling me a b*tch,
and (I guess) seeking to insult me by declaring "seduction" ( :lol: ) techniques are so funny to me because no man has ever tried it on me.

Both confirm what others have said about your misogyny. :)


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04 Apr 2011, 9:47 am

Here, Bethie. I'm going to share our entire exchange to the public, since you saw fit to mention it. Notice that I said you were 'acting like a b***h'.

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Do you have some good reason for being so disrespectful toward me on "Love And Dating" ?

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Everyone here realizes that tons of women get barrels of laughs reading all these formal theories about what would attract them, right?

:lol:


I rarely notice who the individual poster is here, though I don't know how what you quoted could possibly be construed as "disrespectful".


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I'll explain it to you then. It is TEN TIMES HARDER for males to enter the dating/seduction world than it is for females. And while we're trying to learn and improve our skills with women, here you come with some flippant comment about how you're laughing at us. That is disrespectful.


Men declaring that they somehow have it harder and rehearsing some rigid rules that are supposed to govern interaction with women DOES make a lot of men and women laugh, because it's so absurd. "Seduction"? :lol:


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It's the female that chooses the man, not the man that chooses the female. Choosing a sexual partner is a female's domain. So it IS harder for us. And I don't know why you're laughing at the word "seduction"... perhaps because you've never experienced it, and it makes you feel uncomfortable.

I've said my word. Re-evaluate your behavior and stop acting like a b***h.

Good day.


Pretty sure men choose who they have sex with.

And no, I've never had the pleasure of a whiny, insecure overly-rehearsed man trying to get in my pants- sad cause it'd be entertaining.

Your message has been reported- resorting to calling me misogynist names says a lot about you.



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04 Apr 2011, 9:50 am

Bethie, you've been disrespectful toward every man on this forum who seeks to improve his skills with women. You talk down to us, say you're laughing at us, etc. Truth be told, you were the one that insulted first.



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04 Apr 2011, 9:50 am

Notice that I said you lashing out at me with names for daring to disagree with you says a lot about you.


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04 Apr 2011, 9:52 am

Your behavior says a lot about you. You may not call names, but you unfairly criticize people. And then you're very quick to dodge me when I confront you about that.



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04 Apr 2011, 9:52 am

Daredevil-Aspie wrote:
Bethie, you've been disrespectful toward every man on this forum who seeks to improve his skills with women. You talk down to us, say you're laughing at us, etc. Truth be told, you were the one that insulted first.


I think Bethie has a lot of good points to make.
If more men here paid attention to what the female members say they'd actually want they'd have a lot more success.



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04 Apr 2011, 9:53 am

emlion wrote:
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Bethie, you've been disrespectful toward every man on this forum who seeks to improve his skills with women. You talk down to us, say you're laughing at us, etc. Truth be told, you were the one that insulted first.


I think Bethie has a lot of good points to make.
If more men here paid attention to what the female members say they'd actually want they'd have a lot more success.


While I disagree that it's helpful to go to females for advice on how to date females, Bethie to my knowledge has never said anything like that whatsoever. At least not to me. That's something you said.



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04 Apr 2011, 9:54 am

Daredevil-Aspie wrote:
Bethie, you've been disrespectful toward every man on this forum who seeks to improve his skills with women. You talk down to us, say you're laughing at us, etc. Truth be told, you were the one that insulted first.


Sure. Because women are not cars, or basketball, or musical instruments to be played. They're human beings, and as your messages indicate, you mainly see them as a means to "get sex".


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04 Apr 2011, 9:55 am

Daredevil-Aspie wrote:
emlion wrote:
Daredevil-Aspie wrote:
Bethie, you've been disrespectful toward every man on this forum who seeks to improve his skills with women. You talk down to us, say you're laughing at us, etc. Truth be told, you were the one that insulted first.


I think Bethie has a lot of good points to make.
If more men here paid attention to what the female members say they'd actually want they'd have a lot more success.


While I disagree that it's helpful to go to females for advice on how to date females, Bethie to my knowledge has never said anything like that whatsoever. At least not to me. That's something you said.


Who know's females better than females? :?
You think it's better to ask other men who have little or less experience than yourself?



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04 Apr 2011, 9:55 am

emlion wrote:
Daredevil-Aspie wrote:
Bethie, you've been disrespectful toward every man on this forum who seeks to improve his skills with women. You talk down to us, say you're laughing at us, etc. Truth be told, you were the one that insulted first.


I think Bethie has a lot of good points to make.
If more men here paid attention to what the female members say they'd actually want they'd have a lot more success.


If only. :(


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04 Apr 2011, 9:56 am

Bethie wrote:
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Bethie, you've been disrespectful toward every man on this forum who seeks to improve his skills with women. You talk down to us, say you're laughing at us, etc. Truth be told, you were the one that insulted first.


Sure. Because women are not cars, or basketball, or musical instruments to be played. They're human beings, and as your messages indicate, you mainly see them as a means to "get sex".


If you believe seduction is only about sex, then you need to look more into the idea of seduction. If anything, it can be wonderful for a woman. She's experiencing emotions that few other men have ever been able to give her. It's a romance novel brought to life.

YOU are the only one comparing women to cars, basketball, musical instruments, because you want to completely warp whatever I say.



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04 Apr 2011, 9:57 am

emlion wrote:
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emlion wrote:
Daredevil-Aspie wrote:
Bethie, you've been disrespectful toward every man on this forum who seeks to improve his skills with women. You talk down to us, say you're laughing at us, etc. Truth be told, you were the one that insulted first.


I think Bethie has a lot of good points to make.
If more men here paid attention to what the female members say they'd actually want they'd have a lot more success.


While I disagree that it's helpful to go to females for advice on how to date females, Bethie to my knowledge has never said anything like that whatsoever. At least not to me. That's something you said.


Who know's females better than females? :?
You think it's better to ask other men who have little or less experience than yourself?


Sounds counter-intuitive, yes. But in my life, I've seen many women say they want one type of man and then end up dating someone entirely different.

If that makes no sense to you... then that's fine. It's my belief.



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04 Apr 2011, 9:58 am

Then why aren't you letting Bethie have her belief without attacking her?
You've managed to talk to me like a human being, can't you show her the same respect?



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04 Apr 2011, 10:00 am

emlion wrote:
Then why aren't you letting Bethie have her belief without attacking her?
You've managed to talk to me like a human being, can't you show her the same respect?


I'd love to. But she has shown me none. If she made effort to stop talking down to guys who want to know what it's like to have female contact, then that would be cool.



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04 Apr 2011, 10:00 am

Daredevil-Aspie wrote:

Sounds counter-intuitive, yes. But in my life, I've seen many women say they want one type of man and then end up dating someone entirely different.

If that makes no sense to you... then that's fine. It's my belief.


Do you ever notice all the women who DO date the type of man they say they want, or are those selectively-ignored?


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