Why it's better to go places women go.
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Honestly, most guys don't do that yet they get dates and girlfriends, well...maybe I witnessed a couple of guys who went to Salsa classes but that's all, and it's not actually a female-dominated activity anyways.
And while Moog is being sarcastic, however there's some truth in his post, the guy might be accused of being gay or not masculine enough in overly female dominated classes like cooking and yoga, and aspie guys here tend to struggle to look masculine and assertive, so they're more likely to get that trash.
Yes, I'm trying to make this as clear as is possible - don't see your computing/gaming/whatever hell else you have skills as a way to get into the pants of women, if you see what I mean. Women will smell that a mile off.
The interest comes first. You're there to follow an interest. Ignore the women and don't think about them unless you strike up a conversation.
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I keep getting accused of sarcasm...
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And while Moog is being sarcastic, however there's some truth in his post, the guy might be accused of being gay or not masculine enough in overly female dominated classes like cooking and yoga, and aspie guys here tend to struggle to look masculine and assertive, so they're more likely to get that trash.
what can it hurt to try? have fun, learn something, make new friends. and one of those friends may lead to something more.
if a person has tried a certain approach for 10 years and it did not work, then maybe it's time to change the approach. i think it's hard to take a chance and change something, but it could be worth it.
(aside: the male cheerleaders in my high school were straight, and they had way more dating success than the football players! same for male dancers in my arts school. don't discount being a male in a predominately female environment. compared to the football players those men were maybe fairly effeminate, but the women were impressed...)
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And while Moog is being sarcastic, however there's some truth in his post, the guy might be accused of being gay or not masculine enough in overly female dominated classes like cooking and yoga, and aspie guys here tend to struggle to look masculine and assertive, so they're more likely to get that trash.
what can it hurt to try? have fun, learn something, make new friends. and one of those friends may lead to something more.
if a person has tried a certain approach for 10 years and it did not work, then maybe it's time to change the approach. i think it's hard to take a chance and change something, but it could be worth it.
(aside: the male cheerleaders in my high school were straight, and they had way more dating success than the football players! same for male dancers in my arts school. don't discount being a male in a predominately female environment. compared to the football players those men were maybe fairly effeminate, but the women were impressed...)
I agree with that plus its also society's hang ups about gender roles in interests. I played netball at school, did night classes in interests in what society calls feminine. My interests of holistic health are viewed at times as for 'ladies' so what its looked at in then way.
I enjoyed the classes, studying the interests, being the token woman in the group. I also the enjoyed the friendship and company of being with beautiful women in these classes, I mean they were all beautiful in there special unique way physically and other aspects of beauty (IHOM all woman are beautiful!! Its just of question of being of aware of that beauty) plus I just was lucky to have a short and wonderful romance with a beautiful lady I did a night class with
And while Moog is being sarcastic, however there's some truth in his post, the guy might be accused of being gay or not masculine enough in overly female dominated classes like cooking and yoga, and aspie guys here tend to struggle to look masculine and assertive, so they're more likely to get that trash.
I can only speak for myself as a woman, but I actually like when a male shows interest in 'female things'. It's shows a certain amount of security in their masculinity.
Like I've told others, too... there's nothing sexier than a man doing laundry.
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Going places women go when the guy isn't masculine might get him labeled as gay. He'll have a hard-time getting a girl if women believe he's in the closet. He'll just be their friend instead
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Try taking up Yoga, or joining a book club. You could spend more time in church or start helping with a non-profit. Take up jogging at a local park, and see if anyone wants to talk as you go on your morning jog. In any of these activities there might be fewer women, and they're more likely to be unavailable, but the key difference is the number of competitors.
When you're a cute guy in Yoga class, some of the women WILL stare.
Thanks, but I'm straight.
And cute guys in yoga classes are, rightly or wrongly, presumed to be gay-
I say this as a new yoga student who overhears a lot in the locker room.
Not that yoga is a substantive interest to have in common in the first place, especially if you're faking yours.
Pumping your fist and saying "get out there!" isn't much help to ugly or fat people who will only be rejected because of appearances,
or to people who loathe face-to-face interaction with stranger.
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Let me get this straight... you're supposed to go do things that women do, but you can't show interest in the women? So how do you get women to like you back? I thought being super-coy was just seen as stupid in this day and age...
I mean, there have been things I've done that are considered more woman-centric (stage acting being one of them), and I never had any relationships arise out of it. I enjoyed my time there, don't get me wrong, and it's not like I was there for the express purpose of finding a girlfriend. But just going out and doing the things you do doesn't get you someone...
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I mean, there have been things I've done that are considered more woman-centric (stage acting being one of them), and I never had any relationships arise out of it. I enjoyed my time there, don't get me wrong, and it's not like I was there for the express purpose of finding a girlfriend. But just going out and doing the things you do doesn't get you someone...
It's somewhat similar to advice many NT's give, especially parents, no?
Of course they recommend going places and trying to interact with people-
it produces positive results, friendships, and relationships for them.
Lack of Theory of Mind.
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of the human Heart, that very few Men, who have no Property, have any Judgment of their own.
They talk and vote as they are directed by Some Man of Property, who has attached their Minds
to his Interest."
I mean, there have been things I've done that are considered more woman-centric (stage acting being one of them), and I never had any relationships arise out of it. I enjoyed my time there, don't get me wrong, and it's not like I was there for the express purpose of finding a girlfriend. But just going out and doing the things you do doesn't get you someone...
did you try asking one of your fellow stage actresses out on a date? it doesn't happen without an appropriate initiation.
what we meant was that you can show interest in the women as you get to know them, but trying to pick them up on the first cooking class, or staring at their asses in yoga, etc. will not go over well.
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And cute guys in yoga classes are, rightly or wrongly, presumed to be gay-
I say this as a new yoga student who overhears a lot in the locker room.
Not that yoga is a substantive interest to have in common in the first place, especially if you're faking yours.
Pumping your fist and saying "get out there!" isn't much help to ugly or fat people who will only be rejected because of appearances,
or to people who loathe face-to-face interaction with stranger.
Now that goes against the philosophy of yoga as everyone should be felt welcomed to take part.
I head a good story once from my yoga teacher about yoga classes in the middle east to help with creating peace in that part of the world. The yoga classes are part of a peace project called the Heart of Yoga Peace Project.
Anyway gender wise the best yoga teacher is my city is a man (its a shame I haven't had classes with him so far, I hear great stories about him
I mean, there have been things I've done that are considered more woman-centric (stage acting being one of them), and I never had any relationships arise out of it. I enjoyed my time there, don't get me wrong, and it's not like I was there for the express purpose of finding a girlfriend. But just going out and doing the things you do doesn't get you someone...
It's somewhat similar to advice many NT's give, especially parents, no?
Of course they recommend going places and trying to interact with people-
it produces positive results, friendships, and relationships for them.
Lack of Theory of Mind.
aspies can make friends too
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Going to places where females go can be helpfull as long as you are able to find an activity that you enjoy there and its clear that finding a partner isnt your first priority(nobody wants to date a poser.)
As for how does it help its quite simple. After sometime most of the women that are in the same group activity will feel more comfortable around you and they are likelier to go on a date with you because you are no longer a random creep that asked them out of the blue.
An example I´m studying a male dominated field, every now and then a cute girl comes up to talk to me and whoever Im talking to is surprised to see I know some of this girls.
The logic behind what happened is pretty simple
Last year I was introduced to a female that was studying another field and seemed nice so when she mentioned she was looking for a study partner I said I wouldnt mind and we started booking a study room for the 2 of us and someone else usually came along.
After a month I asked her to do something outside university and we started hanging out with some friends we had in common for a while. During that time I was introduced to several females that were studying her field and were also near my university.
Right now I no longer speak to the first girl I was introduced to(she had a boyfriend, people started questioning my intentions...)but the classmates she introduced me to are still making an effort to talk to me whenever they see me.
This first girl could have had her pick on a study partner and she choose me. For a while I wondered why so one day I asked her, she mentioned that we had some things in common that werent common among most males(thanks to having 2 sisters I have some knowledge on chick-lit, sex and the city and other female dominated areas ) and this interest was genuine on me(I expect my sisters to care about some of the things I like so I do the same thing about their interests) so she thought that I would be a better partner than someone that was just pretending to have the same interests.
Oh, okay, that makes more sense... now if only i could find a stage group for twentysomethings... or anything for twentysomethings around here for that matter. I'm too old to act in the group I was in now...
