what is this 'bad boy' stereotype all about?

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11 Sep 2011, 7:50 pm

"Bad Boy" = any male who is less of a p**** than whichever Self-Proclaimed "Nice Guy" is currently complaining that girls don't like him.


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11 Sep 2011, 10:25 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
"Bad Boy" = any male who is less of a p**** than whichever Self-Proclaimed "Nice Guy" is currently complaining that girls don't like him.


Well said I completely agree



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12 Sep 2011, 1:55 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
"Bad Boy" = any male who is less of a p**** than whichever Self-Proclaimed "Nice Guy" is currently complaining that girls don't like him.


I dislike the tone of this comment. It could have been phrased in a more constructive manner without namecalling. I don't have time to add anymore to this at the mo. I don't want this to turn into a slnging match.



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12 Sep 2011, 3:41 am

bad boy, sterotype was a term constructed by women during the 50s

often to decribed teenage-men who went against the considered norm of society

find a trade, do honest work, go to school, be repectful to adults, and so and so forth

often these were men who couldnt stay in one place for to long and had very few if little attachments
of which girls would chase them becuz of that

anyway during the 50s, 60s, 80s, and early 90s it was all about, the bad boy vs. the "straight" man(meaning he had goals and dreams he wanted to follow "was on a straight path in life")

this conflect started to die as people began to realize most bad boys hav no goals and thus go no where in their life and the women their with often get dragged along with them

while emerging out of this was then the jerk vs. nice guy thing as been all the rage on this forum for the past few days since ive joined :roll:



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13 Sep 2011, 9:28 pm

'kay, my take on bad boys:
disrespectful, rowdy, inconsiderate, vulgar, mannerless, cold-hearted, spiteful, ignorant, culture-less, idiotic, materialistic, arrogant, chauvinistic, violent and insensitive.

why the hell would a woman wanna waste her time on a goddamn d**khead like that? it's beyond me!



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14 Sep 2011, 8:27 pm

hurtloam wrote:
I probably shouldn't ask, but i'm intrigued. This sounds like a man i would avoid like mad. However, i'm thinking maybe what people are saying when they say 'bad boy' isn't the image i see in my head when i hear the term. What are you on about? I don't understand. I apologize in advance if this thread turns negative. I'm just befuddled that someone can think that all women want bad guys.


A lot of men on here who have trouble getting a date view themselves as nice individuals...and they might very well be or perhaps they are "nice guys" who have ulterior motives to their civility, consciously or not, however they compare the way they would treat women to the way they perceive other men to treat women and when a man does not interact with a woman to the standards that he would, he generally views this man to be a "bad boy" and superimposes upon him a character based on speculations of how he must act in other situation.

Alternately these nice or "nice" men have a tendency to envision men who do well with women as men who would also treat women poorly by their standards. This is similar to a stereotype of prejudice of sorts.



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14 Sep 2011, 8:35 pm

Chronos wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
I probably shouldn't ask, but i'm intrigued. This sounds like a man i would avoid like mad. However, i'm thinking maybe what people are saying when they say 'bad boy' isn't the image i see in my head when i hear the term. What are you on about? I don't understand. I apologize in advance if this thread turns negative. I'm just befuddled that someone can think that all women want bad guys.


A lot of men on here who have trouble getting a date view themselves as nice individuals...and they might very well be or perhaps they are "nice guys" who have ulterior motives to their civility, consciously or not, however they compare the way they would treat women to the way they perceive other men to treat women and when a man does not interact with a woman to the standards that he would, he generally views this man to be a "bad boy" and superimposes upon him a character based on speculations of how he must act in other situation.

Alternately these nice or "nice" men have a tendency to envision men who do well with women as men who would also treat women poorly by their standards. This is similar to a stereotype of prejudice of sorts.


This is hauntingly accurate. Good call :)


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14 Sep 2011, 9:09 pm

I saw some backward cap-wearing douchebags with hot women today.

Women love bad boys.



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14 Sep 2011, 9:13 pm

SadAspy wrote:
I saw some backward cap-wearing douchebags with hot women today.

Women love bad boys.

those guys might have been the nicest men you'd ever met. are you seriously judging them by their fashion?


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14 Sep 2011, 9:18 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
SadAspy wrote:
I saw some backward cap-wearing douchebags with hot women today.

Women love bad boys.

those guys might have been the nicest men you'd ever met. are you seriously judging them by their fashion?


Yep....backwards hats and tattoos are bad boy trademarks. I admit looks and money aren't everything...I've never known a guy with these characteristics to have trouble getting girls. I should get them.



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14 Sep 2011, 9:19 pm

SadAspy wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
SadAspy wrote:
I saw some backward cap-wearing douchebags with hot women today.

Women love bad boys.

those guys might have been the nicest men you'd ever met. are you seriously judging them by their fashion?


Yep....backwards hats and tattoos are bad boy trademarks. I admit looks and money aren't everything...I've never known a guy with these characteristics to have trouble getting girls. I should get them.

clothing and tattoos do not make a person act a certain way. perhaps they are nice and gentle men who are supportive and kind to women. THOSE are traits to cultivate.


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14 Sep 2011, 9:24 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
SadAspy wrote:
I saw some backward cap-wearing douchebags with hot women today.

Women love bad boys.

those guys might have been the nicest men you'd ever met. are you seriously judging them by their fashion?


Very good point. I think a lot of what gets called "bad boys" is simply an intentionally cultivated image/style which can be pretty successful with women if you can pull it off (I can't) :roll:

but it's not the only style out there - nothing appeals to everyone - you should find a style that you're comfortable with/suited for and learn to present yourself as well as possible. Once again, it's the confidence this gives you rather than just the superficial change in appearance which is the "magic" of the whole thing...



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14 Sep 2011, 10:07 pm

That bad boy preference is BS :shameonyou: Girls have many different preferences, some want bad boys, some simply want boys who know what they want and they will do as much as they can to get it. Usually I see women want a man who has control of his own life, if that makes you a bad boy... well depends on what your area is, if you are a drug dealer then yes, you are a super bad boy. Instead, if you are a lawyer, perhaps you could be a bad boy since you do as much as you can to win cases. Bleh, it's all relative, so take that idea of bad boy out of your head.



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14 Sep 2011, 11:09 pm

ttqs84 wrote:
'kay, my take on bad boys:
disrespectful, rowdy, inconsiderate, vulgar, mannerless, cold-hearted, spiteful, ignorant, culture-less, idiotic, materialistic, arrogant, chauvinistic, violent and insensitive.



Add "womanizer" to that list since it's an established trait of anti-social personality disorder(sociopath).

The title of this thread should be "why are women attracted to sociopaths"?



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14 Sep 2011, 11:44 pm

last time i heard a women say she liked a "Bad boy"
was my best friends mother when he and i were 8
she had no job and was consantly in abusive relationships

i dont even think the "bad boy" sterotype even exsist anymore

as for judging ppl based on looks, men and women do it all the time

women look at me and think he must know alot about computers, math, science, etc...
and hes bad at sports and hates to go outside, and thats more likely from my glasses and pale skin

do i know alot about computers, math, and sience yes but am i bad at sports no, do i hate going outside hell no....but thats what women get from me

and i see women do it to other women and men do it to both genders
its y we here both women and men say "they seemed right at first" and thats cuz we judge ppl before we realy ever get to realy know them and we mostly judge on looks

now i have friends with tattoos(hav considered getting one myself but cant find the right tattoo yet)
and they dont act like "bad boys" or "bad girls" but then again they dont hav any luck with getting dates ether and most of the time the ppl who they pick up who are simply into them for their tattoos arnt worth having anyway



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15 Sep 2011, 12:07 am

Venger wrote:
ttqs84 wrote:
'kay, my take on bad boys:
disrespectful, rowdy, inconsiderate, vulgar, mannerless, cold-hearted, spiteful, ignorant, culture-less, idiotic, materialistic, arrogant, chauvinistic, violent and insensitive.



Add "womanizer" to that list since it's an established trait of anti-social personality disorder(sociopath).

The title of this thread should be "why are women attracted to sociopaths"?


more like "why are people attracted to sociopaths" i mean taking alook at most of the people my friends(female and male alike) hav dated, i can safely say that being a sociopath is a very attractive trait

hell ive even fallen for it sometimes :roll: