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12 Nov 2011, 1:20 am

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This is so insulting! Why do they have to automatically equate stabbing and satanism with "the occult"? This is just going to give an even worse name to pagans! What those women did is inexcusable, and it shouldn't be used to make a point. Why do people say they may be involved with "the occult" as though it were a bad thing and had anything to do with being evil, psychotic b****es?

On a side note, that seems like something my ex would do...

I suppose they wanted to be Nietzschian superwomen and well... it worked the way it usually does, in with the rest of the Nietzschian superwomen they go.
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So Craigslist is where I should go to meet psych....errr, kindred spirits. Thanks for the tip! xD
I suppose its just a game with the roofies of 'Who can draw first?'.


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12 Nov 2011, 1:33 am

diniesaur wrote:
This is so insulting! Why do they have to automatically equate stabbing and satanism with "the occult"? This is just going to give an even worse name to pagans! What those women did is inexcusable, and it shouldn't be used to make a point. Why do people say they may be involved with "the occult" as though it were a bad thing and had anything to do with being evil, psychotic b****es?...


Pagans are evil, I should know, my sister is Wiccan...



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12 Nov 2011, 2:53 am

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Oh, get a grip. What an absurd double standard. Women are sexual beings, too, and being comfortable/free with our sexuality doesn't make us predatory or sick any more than it does a man.
By the way, the word 'easy' suggests that she's acting as prey, not predator. Feel free to share any insight, when you actually have some.


Where did my post ever imply a double standard? You seem to assume that I am of the opinion that women who are sexually promiscuous are somehow worse than men who are sexually promiscuous. If you re-read my post that there is nothing to support such a view.

I could have easily warned women about the dangers of hooking up with men of such character, however that is a record that has been played over and over continuously throughout history. I decided to put a warning out to men specifically upon reading this article because I feel men are under represented as victims. A man can be taken advantage of and victimized just as easily as a woman, particularly men with AS.

Can not a person raise awareness of legitimate mens issues without being accused of possessing sexist views? I think it's more of a double standard to ignore mens issues.

I will re-iterate. Men, if a woman seems too good to be true, she probably is.



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12 Nov 2011, 3:17 am

Someone who is sexist can be just as emotionally violating as a perv or psycho. If you were brought up in an environment where men and women were given gender specific roles modeled by male dominance, or you believed them when they told you "...Men are from Mars" then you should probably read "Slut... Growing up female with a bad reputation" by Leora Tanenbaum. It will help you cut through the clutter of your sexist upbringing. Also, being sexual and open about it is just being honest. And, honesty is something we could all benefit from. Most humans are wired to procreate so denying someone because they are sexually open seems a little counterproductive.

Also, anytime you consider using shame to manipulate someone or their behavior, you should think about your reason for wanting to use. Are you insecure, jealous, etc.



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12 Nov 2011, 3:44 am

imreallysorryusuck wrote:
Also, being sexual and open about it is just being honest. And, honesty is something we could all benefit from. Most humans are wired to procreate so denying someone because they are sexually open seems a little counterproductive.


A person can be sexual and open about it without being sexually promiscuous. However, that is an entirely different discussion.



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12 Nov 2011, 4:24 am

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Can not a person raise awareness of legitimate mens issues without being accused of possessing sexist views? I think it's more of a double standard to ignore mens issues.


No, not on this forum sadly. That's why the men's forum is gone ;).
Now you know.



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12 Nov 2011, 4:33 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Can not a person raise awareness of legitimate mens issues without being accused of possessing sexist views? I think it's more of a double standard to ignore mens issues.


No, not on this forum sadly. That's why the men's forum is gone ;).
Now you know.

I dont know why the male forum was taken down.
However I can assure you that if you are able to have a discussion about men´s issues without demonizing women(same way males arent demonized on the women´s section)I´ll fully support this idea and create a sticky with all the threads if theres need to as it was recently done with the 40+ threads.

Sadly Ive seen a lot of complaint about the lack of discussion of male issues yet the only threads I find about male issues are related to PUA which isnt a good subject because most posts have to be edited due to their tendency to demonize female kind.


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12 Nov 2011, 6:16 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Btw, is that you in the avatar Fullofstars?

You look like Audrey Hepburn O_O.

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That's me dressed as Audrey from Breakfast At Tiffany's, for Halloween.
I think you and I got off to a bad start. Let's correct that:
Hi, Boo, I'm Ania. I wasn't really perving on your hairy feet, and I rarely speak on all caps locks, though I do occasionally bind who I've met on the Internet and stab them repeatedly over the course of several days. :!: But then, what modern, liberated woman doesn't?


Hi Full, I am Samer. I have a good bedroom.


Hi, I'm Grisha - I can make pancakes! :D



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12 Nov 2011, 6:32 am

Grisha wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Fullofstars wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Btw, is that you in the avatar Fullofstars?

You look like Audrey Hepburn O_O.

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That's me dressed as Audrey from Breakfast At Tiffany's, for Halloween.
I think you and I got off to a bad start. Let's correct that:
Hi, Boo, I'm Ania. I wasn't really perving on your hairy feet, and I rarely speak on all caps locks, though I do occasionally bind who I've met on the Internet and stab them repeatedly over the course of several days. :!: But then, what modern, liberated woman doesn't?


Hi Full, I am Samer. I have a good bedroom.


Hi, I'm Grisha - I can make pancakes! :D


Hi, I'm Samer Again. The door is over there. :D



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12 Nov 2011, 6:42 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Grisha wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Fullofstars wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Btw, is that you in the avatar Fullofstars?

You look like Audrey Hepburn O_O.

Image


That's me dressed as Audrey from Breakfast At Tiffany's, for Halloween.
I think you and I got off to a bad start. Let's correct that:
Hi, Boo, I'm Ania. I wasn't really perving on your hairy feet, and I rarely speak on all caps locks, though I do occasionally bind who I've met on the Internet and stab them repeatedly over the course of several days. :!: But then, what modern, liberated woman doesn't?


Hi Full, I am Samer. I have a good bedroom.


Hi, I'm Grisha - I can make pancakes! :D


Hi, I'm Samer Again. The door is over there. :D


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12 Nov 2011, 9:13 am

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Where did my post ever imply a double standard? You seem to assume that I am of the opinion that women who are sexually promiscuous are somehow worse than men who are sexually promiscuous. If you re-read my post that there is nothing to support such a view.

I caught that and thought her comment was in poor taste. Then again I half wondered if she thought you were a guy from the outset, only skimmed the OP, and ended up taking something entirely different away from it because of that.


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12 Nov 2011, 10:23 am

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Oh, get a grip. What an absurd double standard. Women are sexual beings, too, and being comfortable/free with our sexuality doesn't make us predatory or sick any more than it does a man.
By the way, the word 'easy' suggests that she's acting as prey, not predator. Feel free to share any insight, when you actually have some.


Wow, that seemed uncalled for.... 8O

The article itself has nothing to do with liberated sexuality, and everything to do with abuse and assault.



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12 Nov 2011, 11:17 am

Look, ANYONE who sleeps around (male OR female) are sinners that lack self-control and morals. We are not animals.

Sex is something that should be between two married people that lover each other, (gays included) not in a gangbang with 3-5 "rockstars" or a 4some with 3 bi-sexual half-drunk chicks you just met in a club.



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12 Nov 2011, 11:21 am

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Look, ANYONE who sleeps around (male OR female) are sinners that lack self-control and morals. We are not animals.

Sex is something that should be between two married people that lover each other, (gays included) not in a gangbang with 3-5 "rockstars" or a 4some with 3 bi-sexual half-drunk chicks you just met in a club.


And who the f**k do you think you are to tell people what they can or cant do? Or to make fun of what others have posted on this website?



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12 Nov 2011, 11:24 am

MR20 wrote:
Look, ANYONE who sleeps around (male OR female) are sinners that lack self-control and morals. We are not animals.

Sex is something that should be between two married people that lover each other, (gays included) not in a gangbang with 3-5 "rockstars" or a 4some with 3 bi-sexual half-drunk chicks you just met in a club.


so you don't want a quickie then? damn...



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12 Nov 2011, 11:29 am

I'm of the opinion that 'morals' are very subjective...as far as 'sleeping around' is concerned, I have a moral code of my own that may or may not bear any resemblance to the social norm, but as long as I stick to that code I don't feel guilty or bad about it.

As long as you're not knowingly and willingly hurting or upsetting someone else in the name of your own happiness, I don't see a problem. I personally wouldn't engage in promiscuity, but as long as the parties involved in it aren't causing hurt or upset, I don't see a reason to disapprove. No victim, no crime and all that.

Of course, reality is far more complicated than this, but judging someone else is something I try my damndest to avoid. Simply put, my morals are subjective and are not absolutes. I'd feel VERY unhappy about imposing them on someone else.



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