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Bland and full of cools and awesomes and smiley faces is perfect. They have to feel safe and unpressured.

I can only assume you're single, fraac. You talk about women like we're timid and stupid.

Do you prefer the OP approach?

A day or two isn't that much time to get a reply. Allow 3-4 days.

I'm a woman, and if I am honest fraac is right. I dont like to agree because I dont like the way in which its described. It does sound "sorta douchey" to me too (but "disgusting" I think is well over the top).

So I read the OP a couple of times, and then fraac comments and I sort of agree and disagree.

I'm 45 now but when I was 20-30 I didn't fancy guys who sounded needy. I think WhiteWidow should have let the girl come back at her own speed. Anything could be happening in her life and its best to be cool about that. Its best not to sound needy. If someone didn't let me come back at my own speed, alarm bells would ring.

Lots of geeky guys lose out due to sending out needy signals. Geeky guys make fantastic lovers but some just wont get over the initial hurdle if they seem needy. So its not helpful to say that "weak BS is disgusting". Needy is not initially sexually attractive. Its not a good start. If you get to know someone well, as a friend first, then hyper keeness/needy/weak signals aren't a deal breaker, you've already got through and see the whole person. But if you don't know them at all and all you have got is someone seeming too keen - well its not a good start.

No I dont, I thought it impatient therefore needy therefore unsexy. With your comments I get a strange mix of insight, and then dull sexism. Your basically right but the language paints women as two dimensional and stupid. I'm guessing its not real sexism but a lack of substantive practice with lots of real girls?

If you recall it sounds like I see all NTs as two-dimensional and stupid. It's not sexism. It's knowing the animal I'm dealing with.

I'm doubly f*****g stupid and two-dimensional then.

Good luck with that, its charming.

"Sounds like". We just have different perspectives. If I talk about NTs it'll sound like I'm talking about model trains moving around a track because that's the top-down view I have of them. They themselves can talk about the motives of all the passengers, the price of the sandwiches in the buffet car, etc. It's just different perspectives.

You don't have a top-down view of women. You just think you do.

Your autistic and you are in a good place to have some insight into seeing patterns in behaviour but your data is flawed.
How many grown up women have you actually known in your life?

How many contact hours of chat with people?

I've known hundreds and hundreds and hundreds, spent my whole life chatting and f*****g all night to men and women about anything and everything - the kind of deeply honest and open chat that follows cathartic sex. The only thing I know for sure is there is no top-down view of anyone, not of men, women, NTs, AS.

How can you possibly learn about women if you cant communicate with them?
Do you think women are animals to be studied, not humans to be engaged with?
Observations that are not based on dialogue and shared learning with other brains aren't real. You made them up.

But you know my observations are correct, you just find them offensive because they appear to objectify you. You can conclude that I have experience.

I agree with not liking people who seems really needy. I'm a guy and do not like needy people either. BUT WhiteWidow didn't sound needy at all! He just sounded clueless and that's pretty normal since that girl seemed so unclear.

She was probably thinking about maybe meeting him while being very unsure and then she decided to abandon the idea. That's it.

She's not ignoring your messages.

You're just not at the top of her priorities, she would reply you when it's your turn.

Mm. It's best not to overthink people's motives. My psychopath friend told me that when I was freaking out one time. The girl was curious then she got shy, don't worry about it.

Well I think its safe to say she won't be responding to you anymore than......sometimes people take a while to respond because they are trying to figure out what exactly to say. A lot of times people messege me and I don't get back to them for a while......if I was talking to a guy I was potentially intrested in and then when I did not respond quick enough he said;

'why do you take so long, I'm not intrested anymore'......then I would feel like a ret*d idiot for being too slow and maybe be a little upset that's all it took for them to totally lose intrest. Then I would be over it and not want to talk to them anymore.

Not offensive, I'm very hard to offend. I dont take them personally really. I just find them wrong.

I dont think you realise your models dont work with most women because you dont have a real data set, deliberately. If you did then you would have to admit your NPD powers don't work on most women. Your observations are based on one or two women and then you generalise. Extrapolate from flawed information