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I'm 14 not 15 and i'm not a kid.

sure does....i don't think 15 year olds are really 15 anymore tho......more like 30 intellectually

i wouldn't have even known wtf i was talking about if i was telling myself this at his age

just having the net from an earlier age.....makes an INSANE difference....

I'm 36 and I am much better in social situations now than when I was 15 and if I'm alive in my 50's when alot of aspies males are more likely to marry (due to delayed
social skills development I may very well marry) You either started your relationship
later in life(time to aquire skills) or had less trouble than the typical aspie male.

I'm 100% on Unknown side in this matter. Yeah those closer to NT on the spectrum
what he said is bad to those like me who are closer to confinement in a rubber room
I truly did not feel his remark was in anyway negative. Not that being more aspie allows me to understand him. Usually the more aspie someone is the more they miss
interpert what is said or say things in the wrong way. Big hug for Unknown.

well I'm in college, so I consider anyone under the age of 17, a kid. no offense mate.

the truth Tm1 is this:

i was 20......hopelessly crap with gals(apart from being especially good at being friends with them *SIGH*...could never figure out what i was doing wrong).....when she came along and basically plucked me out at uni...and prodded me into action...

so i really had no clue we were both aspies or about anything much...head in the clouds mostly

yeah i have the same thing with interpreting my own stuff...in my head it means different to how it comes out....i hafta be very careful

very true on later social skills.....i often need to be alone for ages...and i go back thru social encounters over and over and sorta re-code in my head what behaviour would have been better etc..

Likewise.

Seeing as we chaps don't like to whiteant (ie poach) another chap's girl, I think it was thoughorly decent of Unknown to let the other chaps know the situation.

welp see right there u are objectifying women...seeing them on a lower level than u do men... like she is to be passed amongst 'chaps'

look at the words ur using....'poach' like ur talking about hunting an animal

ie. 'oh dear gent's that chap poached my pheasant'

but that's ok becuase I think you are a PC nazi whose opinion is not important to me. From your posts, I do not believe you are able maintain an argument based on logic, merely gross generalisations based on emotion, so I can't be bothered with you.



ttfn

IMHO, the fact that you're objectifiying a woman is clearly not a good thing, not a good thing at all. One has to look at this from the view of others, try putting yourself in the other person's shoes, and see what their perspective is. that's what I do a lot. it works, provided I think about the other person first....usually I just run my opinions off.

We can not hear a persons tone of voice or their body language hear. Which means
our minds generate context that may or may not be there.

Context 1 : A cocky voice, angerly face, alert, sarcastic

Context 2 : Depressed, low volume, head down down cast eyes

We are not lawyers we can not write complex post that anyone could fully understand
the correct context and even if we could we might not beable to understand our own feeling. Which means we have to make more estimations.

Context 1 : Assume the worst

Context 2 : Assume the best

Plus we all hear got alot of info about ASD/ social skills problems, etc So we have other choices:

Context 1: This guy needs to get in the NT training line and begin passing for a NT
as soon as possible.

Context 2: A young aspie male will have very weak social skills. A high percent of
aspie males will be alone a high percent of their lives. And we do not expect them
to have the social skills of a 30 year NT woman.

I went with #2

Oh and on the PC issue. NT males talk to other males about their women in non-PC
terms. Its understood but not spoken by the men that they infact do love their old
ladies and treat them as an equal.

...calling me a PC nazi,saying my opinion isnt important 2u & u can't be bothered ...was infact an emotional response....not a logical argument containing any facts pertaining to what we were discussing etc.. it is infact u bazza that is doing exactly what u accuse others of... also u state i am unable to be logical...but offer no evidence



TM...first u murky the waters by stating how we can't possibly determine what is taking place....then u judge urself what is taking place ie. 'i went with #2' ....it seems inaccurate too...since he seemed to pick up on the objectifying wording and promptly changed it....so how about giving him credit for understanding instead of categorizing him and saying...u r destined to be like such n such ...it seems more to do with wisdom than socials skills....putting urself in others shoes etc like Gamestar was saying...

u also condemn most aspie guys to a life alone etc....how can u predict this in an ever changing/evolving world....if every yesterday = every tomorrow....maybe.....but in 5 years or 50 years....aspie males might be hunted by women crazy for their specialities as its the new in thing etc... unless u know the future how can u be sure?

the PC issue is a diversion from what was taking place.... that was infact the objectivity of women being displayed...

>>>Oh and on the PC issue. NT males talk to other males about their women in non-PC terms.

so then it is possible they could be speaking in terms that objectify women?

>>Its understood but not spoken by the men that they infact do love their old ladies and treat them as an equal

i luv my pet dog....but i don't think of him as my equal, i luv my computer...but i don't think of it as my equal.. etc... this statement tells me that women are treated equally....but does not base it on any evidence....ur asking us to 'take ur word for it'

so yeah..what r u basing the equality on? give me examples?

i was basing my discussion on what actually occurred...which i thought was the only way to have logic involved?

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>>I'm 14 not 15 and i'm not a kid.<<

You still have a while to go yet my child. I think 14 is far too young for a relationship anyway - what are kids thinking these days? Damn you MTV!

Impossible. You cannot pwn pwnage. It's like killing death. Impossible.

No did not say that. We can determine . #1 could be true and not #2 or #n
but I'm saying my neural network picked #2 others here picked #1 or #n



He was pressured into a NT mold. He should change his post back because it was fine.



Yeah he was emotional because he had empathy for a young teen(Unknown)
getting corrected for a harmless post. I have no idea if those correcting
Unknown are motivated by some love of the PC movement.




This relates back to I'm not a lawyer so I can not write statements that could when
a court case. The word "equal" was use to convey that most men who say words
that imply their women are property infact do not feel that way its just typical male
bonding.



What occurred to you: "his original post"

What occurred to me: "before his original post", "his original post" , "the young ladies posts" "how I would feel in his situation"

Meaning I had a massive amount of information to process to find the best picture
of the truth I can. I could be totalily wrong(truely I could be) but those correcting
Unknown did not focus on the larger truth(its all that matters in the world to me) they
did a string processing operation on a short amount of text and gave an error message.

>>Yeah he was emotional because he had empathy for a young teen(Unknown)
getting corrected for a harmless post. I have no idea if those correcting
Unknown are motivated by some love of the PC movement.

no this is untrue...if u look thru the thread....his emotional reply is directed at me from my previous post...

ur seriously saying that was about empathy for unknown?

>>>He was pressured into a NT mold. He should change his post back because it was fine.

unless u've spoken to him...how can u know....he might have been urged into a higher state of awareness...

only he can tell us...