The hiking trip and the girl...
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Sounds like you had a great time.
See this is why I eventually left online dating sites. You spend quite a while talking to each other and in most cases you dont actually meet because the other person said this/that and you hate people that do that...
Chances of finding someone offline are way lower but most people dont do extensive questioning before talking to you and experiences like this one are pretty great and make it worth the wait imo.
Hope that you can arrange coffee or something with her soon.
See this is why I eventually left online dating sites. You spend quite a while talking to each other and in most cases you dont actually meet because the other person said this/that and you hate people that do that...
Chances of finding someone offline are way lower but most people dont do extensive questioning before talking to you and experiences like this one are pretty great and make it worth the wait imo.
Hope that you can arrange coffee or something with her soon.
Yep all that time and energy invested in meeting people and feeling worse off on dating sites would be better spent out there meeting real people and taking a roll of the dice.
We were like around ~40 persons bu the huge bus wasn't totally filled, I took a seat behind with no one besides (the gym buddies i know didn't go) and there was an attractive girl in her mid-twenties (i don't know her before) who took the seat in front of me with no one besides her too, both of us were sitting on the window side.
Like after 15 min of drive, she asked if she can open the common curtain between us and I was like 'yes sure', then I started a little chit chat with her asking her what gym activities she's enrolled in...bla bla.. we chit chatted quite well.
As they were playing music I had almost to 'glue' my left side face on the window so i can see and hear her through this little space between us, so I was like "You know, staying here will make my left jaw flatten at the end of the trip, lemme sit next to you", she giggled while I was taking her side seat and we continued the chatting all the way about several matters (our jobs, location, hobbies....etc) to the hiking spot.
As for the hiking part, lemme sum it up that she was my hiking partner all during the trip ;p, got embarrassed a bit as I had almost slipped few times as my shoes weren't ideally adequate for hiking but I took a self-sarcastic approach ie. "you know? you can learn from me where to not step" / "you're hexing me!", made things better as those successively made her giggle/laugh ,she made funny sarcastic comments about those too, she's really humorous.
We almost stayed together all during the trip, the hiking (hand touching included), sharing the fruit found in the wild, the swimming, the lunch....
In our way back (in bus) we were toying with our cellphones talking about some apps, sharing some music and added each other on FB, and stayed with her till her dad came to pick her up from the returning spot (yet my home is within a stone's throw).
This evening I found she was making 'likes' at some of my FB photos and later...
...I got surprised of finding a thank you message from her on fb thanking me for this day and how much she enjoyed my company, I am chatting her there till this moment.
Strong signals of interest rubbing all over my face, eh?
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I didn't sleep with my husband for six months after we started dating.
Well, I slept in the bed with him with some cuddelling, but no sex for that long. I probably would have but he didn't push me and I enjoyed the fact that he didn't. I probably wouldnt have gone out with him again if he had pushed it by the third date. I had dated lots of guys (not slept with, dated. slept with some though) and was divorced, but he was completely different than any other guy I had ever dated.
Number one he had a real grown man's job. Number two he was and still is, very hairy and I had never been near a guy with a hairy chest. Number three he was from up North and I was very unsure of how those guys are.
I liked him, I was just intimidated and unsure how to function in that situation. Even though some of the guys had been his age, they didn't have real jobs, or they were in college. He was more mature than my usual type. I knew the situation called for a different type of attitude and behavior but I didn't know what to do. I would have been scared if he had tried that, even though I had dated a lot of criminals and a band member.
I don't think pushing it is what he should do, unless she seems interested in that.
It took me a couple of months of dates several times a week before I even spent the night and that was only because I had drank too much to drive home, and he slept on the couch and I got the bed. He asked me a couple nights later if I'd stay and promised he wouldn't try anything. Thats how we got to six months with no sex, but by then we were in a committed relationship.
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I will ask her soon but...
I am keeping my hopes realistic, just checked some of her posts of her on FB i realized she's of the religious type (muslim).
Chances are very high that she won't accept an atheist.
There's like 90% of chance that she won't tolerate that.
Story of my life.
I am keeping my hopes realistic, just checked some of her posts of her on FB i realized she's of the religious type (muslim).
Chances are very high that she won't accept an atheist.
There's like 90% of chance that she won't tolerate that.
Story of my life.
In England, some people are atheist yet they still celebrate our traditions such as Easter and Christmas, they might even go to Mass a few times a year, I suppose there would be many more traditions and rules involved in following something like Islam though.
You could just use the term open-minded instead of atheist? or just attempt to avoid the discussion of religion and politics completely, keep the conversations witty and light hearted.
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I am keeping my hopes realistic, just checked some of her posts of her on FB i realized she's of the religious type (muslim).
Chances are very high that she won't accept an atheist.
There's like 90% of chance that she won't tolerate that.
Story of my life.
In England, some people are atheist yet they still celebrate our traditions such as Easter and Christmas, they might even go to Mass a few times a year, I suppose there would be many more traditions and rules involved in following something like Islam though.
You could just use the term open-minded instead of atheist? or just attempt to avoid the discussion of religion and politics completely, keep the conversations witty and light hearted.
It's inevitable man, let's be realistic. To pretend praying 5 times a day? or to pretend fasting a whole month in ramadan (which starts after 10 days)? and then claim i was just being open-minded?
Come on.
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You could tell her that right now you don't have religious beliefs, and that you would be open to learning about Islam if things got more serious between you two. That's not offering to convert, but to learn about her religion with the idea of seeing it from her point of view. If she's interested enough, she may very well be willing to go for that.
Of course you would have to learn about it, and then maybe you could agree to disagree later, once she sees that you weren't discounting her beliefs before you learned about it to her satisfaction. Then again, she may be one of those people who only date within their religion. Or, she could simply be practicing it because of her parents or something. There is no way to know without waiting to see. Please don't be too negative about it too soon, you never know what she might say.
My midwife was the daughter of a Rabbi and she married a Catholic boy. Both had somewhat strong religious beliefs at first, but it eventually worked out and they are still together, although I think they are both more Agnostic now and only practice their religions for their parents and at family gatherings.
If she asks about it before you have had time to build a good foundation then just answer "Oh, I don't talk about politics or religion" and smile and change the subject. If she pushes you about it a lot then it might not work. However, don't give up yet. Many people have converted for someone they love, and many others have put aside the notion that their partner has to be the same religion. Give it a chance. It's easy to see lots of roadblocks when you expect them, but wait until it actually comes up before deciding it was a bad idea.
Also, if it was that important to her, wouldn't she have asked you if you were Muslim before the first date? So, you may have some wiggle room there. Take advantage of that and let the attraction grow.
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I am keeping my hopes realistic, just checked some of her posts of her on FB i realized she's of the religious type (muslim).
Chances are very high that she won't accept an atheist.
There's like 90% of chance that she won't tolerate that.
Story of my life.
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"Learning about Islam" lol --- I was Muslim raised in a Muslim family.
Not giving up, just stated an estimated how much it might not work. I am not going to tell her before the date lol.
being religious is the default case here, not the exception.
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If Im not mistaken he talked about that less than a year ago and considered moving to NZ, not sure if he is still trying to go ahead on that one or not.
Anyhow I understand trying to avoid getting your hopes up if its unlikely to work but at least try to ask her instead of assuming she´ll say no.
Sorry to hear about how difficult things are in your country for non believers.
