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14 Jul 2012, 6:45 am

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I feel it's important to differentiate between a "nice guy" and a decent man.

One (the latter) is a man, while the "nice guy" is a immature little boy complete with the entitlement attitude (which is the most off putting thing) and child's expectations of the way the world should work, hiding in a grown man's body.

Decent good men are genuinely kind and authentic people. They know that there is a time and a place to be a good or bad boy. They are strong enough to be nice without being weak and they are strong enough to be bad when it's required - essentially they have a backbone. They know how to say no. Most importantly, they know how the world works and they know that it doesn't owe them anything.

I love decent men - they make my world go around, whenever I get my head out of my interests. :lol:


You make a good point. A lot of the men (and women) who think very highly of themselves are actually awfully immature.


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Genuine, thoughtful, kind men are the original star wars movies.
"Nice Guys" are the prequels. They try to market themselves at like the originals but they have no understanding of what makes the originals appealing and they're terrible.


:lol: Best. Analogy. Ever.


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14 Jul 2012, 7:20 am

It seems there hasn't even been a serious heated discussion about this in four hours. We need to find something new to argue about, or I'll fall asleep.



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14 Jul 2012, 7:22 am

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It seems there hasn't even been a serious heated discussion about this in four hours. We need to find something new to argue about, or I'll fall asleep.


Hush-a-bye, don't you cry... everyone shhhhh


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14 Jul 2012, 7:43 am

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It seems there hasn't even been a serious heated discussion about this in four hours. We need to find something new to argue about, or I'll fall asleep.
:lmao: We are not worthy :hail:


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14 Jul 2012, 7:49 am

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<-------- Thinks Wolfheart and Kjas need to get a room.
Also to add to the topic, there are also "nice" girls who are immature jerks. What comes around, goes around.


*ruffles his hair* :P

Hey - I keep everything in here PG. It's not my fault that Wolf doesn't venture into AAI and instead takes his frustration out here. :razz:

Just saying you two have more chemistry than what science lessons have. :lmao: :razz:


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14 Jul 2012, 8:09 am

Kjas wrote:
I feel it's important to differentiate between a "nice guy" and a decent man.

One (the latter) is a man, while the "nice guy" is a immature little boy complete with the entitlement attitude (which is the most off putting thing) and child's expectations of the way the world should work, hiding in a grown man's body.

Decent good men are genuinely kind and authentic people. They know that there is a time and a place to be a good or bad boy. They are strong enough to be nice without being weak and they are strong enough to be bad when it's required - essentially they have a backbone. They know how to say no. Most importantly, they know how the world works and they know that it doesn't owe them anything.

I love decent men - they make my world go around, whenever I get my head out of my interests. :lol:

To me, the sterotypical "nice guy" described by the OP is no better than the sterotypical "bad boy", I have no interest, and no time for either of those.


I'm somewhat confused on the bolded text. Do you mean, nice, but not extremely helpful nice? Or nice, but not too nice that it's a detrementto me?



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14 Jul 2012, 8:17 am

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Genuine, thoughtful, kind men are the original star wars movies.
"Nice Guys" are the prequels. They try to market themselves at like the originals but they have no understanding of what makes the originals appealing and they're terrible.


LOL brilliant. I'd say nice guys tend to start off like Episode I's Anakin to lure you in then behave like Episode II & III's.



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14 Jul 2012, 8:27 am

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LOL brilliant. I'd say nice guys tend to start off like Episode I's Anakin to lure you in then behave like Episode II & III's.

Yeah but why would you watch Episode I and II? Plus, Anakin was like 7 or 8 there so he's seen as cute and nice but he still acted rashly near the end where he would have been captured or killed.


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14 Jul 2012, 8:42 am

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*ruffles his hair* Razz

Hey - I keep everything in here PG. It's not my fault that Wolf doesn't venture into AAI and instead takes his frustration out here. :razz:


It's you, Kjas ;) you bring out the misbehaving and cheeky side in me.



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14 Jul 2012, 8:47 am

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I'm somewhat confused on the bolded text. Do you mean, nice, but not extremely helpful nice? Or nice, but not too nice that it's a detrementto me?


I mean don't be so nice that it is detrimental to you. You need to be able to take care of yourself and protect yourself.

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Just saying you two have more chemistry than what science lessons have. :lmao: :razz:


You haven't been around long enough to see the rest then clearly... (not talking about Wolf :lol: )

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It's you, Kjas ;) you bring out the misbehaving and cheeky side in me.


:lmao: But I haven't done anything yet! :o

You realise we have an entire thread in AAI where nobody can be told off for that stuff, right? :razz:


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14 Jul 2012, 8:52 am

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:lmao: But I haven't done anything yet! :o

You realise we have an entire thread in AAI where nobody can be told off for that stuff, right? :razz:


Oh yet it is ;) I'm just playing, we won't get told off anyway! I'll behave. ;)



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14 Jul 2012, 9:10 am

Kjas wrote:
PastFixations wrote:
Just saying you two have more chemistry than what science lessons have. :lmao: :razz:


You haven't been around long enough to see the rest then clearly... (not talking about Wolf :lol: )

To think I confided with personal info to you about myself in regards to my own life, Harumph! =\ :P
It's clear to me that Wolf is totally focused on you that nothing else matters to him. :lol: ;) You so got him wrapped round your finger. :razz:


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14 Jul 2012, 9:26 am

Kjas wrote:
noname_ever wrote:
I'm somewhat confused on the bolded text. Do you mean, nice, but not extremely helpful nice? Or nice, but not too nice that it's a detrementto me?


I mean don't be so nice that it is detrimental to you. You need to be able to take care of yourself and protect yourself.


I see. That's a subjective point between a "nice guy" and "decent man". The observer gets to determine whether the person acting nicely is doing it to their detriment or if they lack a back bone, whether the observer is correct or not. There are many times where it can appear that someone is acting as a door mat, but aren't because a) it's gaining them something in return (extra pay, sex, etc...) or b) the act doesn't affect them much. From the context of the observer, it would appear detrimental or lacking a back bone, but to the person doing the acts they are inconsequential.

An example would be someone who cannot (reality is that they won't) say no to their job. It may not be a problem if the person is trying to climb the corporate ladder or they get paid over time. I'm guilty of this because I do get paid over time, it doesn't impact my free time usually (nothing better to do), and has helped the perception others have of my working behavior (my boss doesn't want me to leave and upper management likes/respects me).



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14 Jul 2012, 9:35 am

I prefer to call genuine nice guys "gentlemen."



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14 Jul 2012, 9:39 am

thewhitrbbit wrote:
I prefer to call genuine nice guys "gentlemen."


Gentlemen is a loaded term as well and is subjective. What one person considers a gentleman would not be what someone else considers it.



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14 Jul 2012, 9:42 am

I happen to be quite the gentleman and scholar!


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