Should I give up?

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US society is just a victim blaming society.
The problem is that many of these men in the USA believe they are not good with women but the fact is that they are trying to succeed in an arena where there is no success. If the society in the US says that the problem is *you*, then try changing societies. You may be in for a big surprise.
A passport and a ticket to an exotic foreign land may be the right place for you to meet a foreign lady or two of your dreams.

And what happens when you do that and it still doesnt work.

Cause thats kinda happened to me

There's another aspect to North American men - they're the only group on Earth left that's "safe and cool" to publicly ridicule and abuse. Any other group has activists rallying for them and will scream "HATE CRIMES" so fast your head will spin! White males are routinely shown in TV and movies as inadequate and laughable. Campuses teach that all sex is rape and all men are rapists. The war on men is in full swing - and we've all but lost completely already.

We men now have to face the fact that one wrong word or move and all she has to do is scream, "HARASSMENT!!" and that guy's instantly fired, cops called and prison sentence very likely. I've been through it all. False accusations are rampant because it's such an effective weapon for those women who have no ethics at all.

...except for the alphas. For some reason, they get away with it and women still respect them for it - despite them being everything they loudly fight against!!

It's maddening... sometimes I want to just become a monk.

Sad but true.

Too true there is always this option I already chose it as well. I still go to college off and on and leave to work but thats necessary for survival otherwise I distance myself from the rest of the world and stay inside because the world is cruel and unusual.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Y7R5zP0wc[/youtube] If you ever watch the anime welcome to the NHK that is pretty much my life in a nutshell.

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I wouldnt say that you need to give up but if you are becoming extremely desperate and whatnot then taking a break from looking for someone and focusing on something else is extremely unlikely to hurt you and it could do a lot of good.

I havent asked anyone in a date in years(have a friend that likes to double date and invites me along, met a few foreigners that just wanted someone to have lunch with, thats about it) and I stopped caring a while ago.

Probably one of the best decisions on the last few years(someone came along eventually and things went well because since I didnt care that much I wasnt too obsessive too early)

At most take a load off for awhile. Stop thinking and worrying so much about getting a girl, don't give the idea so much importance right now, it is a problem for you, a self defeating behaviour pattern and you don't need that. Try focusing on improving other issues in life. Like your social issues with people in general, improving your health and the way you look, what about a job or school? All good things that can attract a lady, but don't do it just for a lady, do it for yourself... The ladies should eventually come along and you will be in better shape to handle them.

I suspect that women dislike you two for the same reasons I dislike you: you're whiney and you're resentful. Neither of these are attractive qualities.

To the OP: I second the recommendation that you stop worrying so much and focus on improving other aspects of your life. Finding a nice girlfriend will not magically cause every thing else to fall into place, nor will being single for a while magically curse you to die alone and unloved.

when the fat and ugly/ below average looking women and the single mothers reject you online, clearly online dating is a waste of time for a lot of guys.
most of the females online are not that great and are simply online for an ego boost.
even when an average guy sets his standards lower, the lowest common denominator may reject him.
online dating is a waste of time for most guys and a huge let down.

All men that criticize constantly women in WP, listen.

You never dated MEN. You are not perfect either.

I could say a lot of things about dating men. Creepy things.

So please, we women have to deal with s**t too. I'm tired of reading we are the worst thing on Earth. We aren't. There are bad women and bad men. End of story.

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You should move to Los Angeles. Sure you'll be happier and motivated there.

Surely you live in a little city. To find a partner there is difficult, as finding new friends. Now you are young, but soon all the people of your age will get married. And sure a lot of young people of your area move to Seattle or to another big city so possibly there is not a lot of single people of your generation. If I'm wrong tell me, because this is what happens in the very little city where I live. I know that if I don't move on, it will be very, very, veeery difficult for me to make new friends or to get a partner or to get a good job.

Be practical, go away!! !

You can start looking Californian employment agencies

i hate how men to those standards

This is straight up false. White men control practically everything in North America, as they have ever since their predecessors committed genocide on the Native Americans. Their power throughout history has caused them to be unbelievably spoiled, and so they cry like babies every time a group they have dominated gets the rights and freedoms they have had all along, or whenever someone politely tells them that is no longer acceptable to go around spouting bigoted, hateful opinions about other groups of people. Other groups have activists for them because it is white men who have historically abused the other groups. White men don't need no activists because no one is oppressing them except their own sense of entitlement. And white men are the heroes or main characters of almost all movies, in addition to being portrayed as laughable on TV. They get more acting gigs than anyone else, regardless of the role. The difference is that now, not only muscular, good-looking, "cool" white men get roles - skinny geeks and middle-aged men with potbellies get acting jobs, and white nerds, "ugly" white men, and obese white men can see themselves portrayed more than before. That <i>benefits</i> white men. They are being portrayed as a more human and varied group than anyone else. As usual.

Anyways, race is kind of off-topic here. Rather than be economically forced into relationships with men or brainwashed into accepting them according to criteria that men have decided is important, more than ever women are now choosing them based on their own criteria (or even opting to remain alone), and apparently, many guys are found lacking in their eyes. Many men feel entitled to women, and they are pissed about not getting what they feel should be theirs, thus, rants such as the ones appearing in this thread. Just from reading through the Love and Dating forum, you can see that the men would rather rant and even ask other MEN to help them get dates, rather than simply asking women what they want. They want women on THEIR terms, and have a ready barrage of misogyny to spew if they can't have it that way. They speak about women specifically as if they are totally indecipherable and out to humiliate men, and they have ridiculous standards for women's personal appearance (in another thread, some guy posted that his ideal partner shaved her whole body!), then wonder why they can't find a girlfriend. DUH. They'll probably still choose to ignore all the advice here in this very paragraph.

What college campus have you heard of that teaches that all sex is rape? Ridiculous.

You have to realize that there's a giant bias towards men with accents, so that may explain your better results...

Like Japan? Should I go there?