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23 Oct 2012, 5:33 am

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Neediness will get the girl to never want to talk to you again either, and possibly go crawling back to an ex or someone else who doesn't seem to need them. I also find that if the guy brings up the idea of a relationship first, he will be rejected and will likely never be given a chance with the girl he brought it up to.


It's the same way vice versa.

I agree with ComradeKael and Taverson.



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23 Oct 2012, 1:58 pm

People agree with me? YAY! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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23 Oct 2012, 2:39 pm

I'm needy, and I ask too many questions because I cannot read between the lines, I cannot read body language properly and I take too long to process what should have been obvious. I go back and become a stalker or creepy guy. Once the person knows me, I bounce a lot of things of them, that too can be seen as needy. I won't win and I accept that :shrug:



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23 Oct 2012, 3:19 pm

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I hear of needy women all the time...but does such a man exist? I never hear of a man who is "needy". Are they usually described as something else? Creeps? Nice guys?


yes but it is a thousand, million, billion, trillion times worse for a man to be needy, clingy, desperate, than it is for a woman, unfortuneately, a man has to have things going for him in his life, have a life, has to have something he is into like a passion or hobbie, goal, that gives his life meaning above and beyond a relationship, if he is trying to get his validation in life through his interactions with women, women will always notice it and be repulsed by it, reject him instantly(god damn that 6th sense that women have!!), men too, also won't respect him



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23 Oct 2012, 7:47 pm

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smudge wrote:
I hear of needy women all the time...but does such a man exist? I never hear of a man who is "needy". Are they usually described as something else? Creeps? Nice guys?


yes but it is a thousand, million, billion, trillion times worse for a man to be needy, clingy, desperate, than it is for a woman, unfortuneately, a man has to have things going for him in his life, have a life, has to have something he is into like a passion or hobbie, goal, that gives his life meaning above and beyond a relationship, if he is trying to get his validation in life through his interactions with women, women will always notice it and be repulsed by it, reject him instantly(god damn that 6th sense that women have!!), men too, also won't respect him

Well I didn't have that sixth sense when I took up with my ex. He turned out to be extremely bad news and nearly ended my life. You must be referring to NT woman, though.


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24 Oct 2012, 3:00 pm

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smudge wrote:
I hear of needy women all the time...but does such a man exist? I never hear of a man who is "needy". Are they usually described as something else? Creeps? Nice guys?


yes but it is a thousand, million, billion, trillion times worse for a man to be needy, clingy, desperate, than it is for a woman, unfortuneately, a man has to have things going for him in his life, have a life, has to have something he is into like a passion or hobbie, goal, that gives his life meaning above and beyond a relationship, if he is trying to get his validation in life through his interactions with women, women will always notice it and be repulsed by it, reject him instantly(god damn that 6th sense that women have!!), men too, also won't respect him

Well I didn't have that sixth sense when I took up with my ex. He turned out to be extremely bad news and nearly ended my life. You must be referring to NT woman, though.


yeah since most women are NT



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24 Oct 2012, 3:08 pm

One of my ex boyfriends was needy and then I met my husband and he acted needy too. But he stopped. Needy men are high maintenance. Nothing is ever enough for them nor good enough.


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25 Oct 2012, 4:22 pm

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One of my ex boyfriends was needy and then I met my husband and he acted needy too. But he stopped. Needy men are high maintenance. Nothing is ever enough for them nor good enough.


much worse for men obviously



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25 Oct 2012, 4:31 pm

She does have a point though



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25 Oct 2012, 4:38 pm

Nothing wrong with being needy.


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25 Oct 2012, 4:51 pm

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She does have a point though


yeah, men have to be like perfect everything



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25 Oct 2012, 7:18 pm

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Are they usually described as something else? Creeps? Nice guys?


Pretty much, yeah. I've seen, over and over, men and women displaying the exact same behavior. In women it's seen as undesireable but basically harmless. In men it's seen as evidence of instability and is feared.


Yeah, another negative thing that women can get away with lol. If a woman is needy, it's "cute" but if a man is needy, he needs to be put on death row, basically.


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25 Oct 2012, 8:42 pm

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mds_02 wrote:
smudge wrote:
Are they usually described as something else? Creeps? Nice guys?


Pretty much, yeah. I've seen, over and over, men and women displaying the exact same behavior. In women it's seen as undesireable but basically harmless. In men it's seen as evidence of instability and is feared.


Yeah, another negative thing that women can get away with lol. If a woman is needy, it's "cute" but if a man is needy, he needs to be put on death row, basically.


yeah it just pisses me off, always angers me



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26 Oct 2012, 12:16 am

Wow Judgmental much folks?

My ex always wanted me to be with him, he never wanted me to be by myself. He acted like a control freak and would make me feel guilty like for example if i wanted to go to bed, he get upset I wouldn't stay up with him. I would try and give him affection but when I do it, it was never good enough for him because he still thought I sucked at it and didn't do it enough and still had a problem with me doing it. Also when I would try and think about him, it still wasn't good enough because I left him some oatmeal for him and he said it was barely any (there was enough in there to fill up a bowl) and would accuse me of being self centered. So much for thinking about him and caring and that is what I get in return?

My husband on the other hand, he wouldn't stop touching me (sensory issues sound familiar folks?) and then it started to overwhelm me because he wouldn't stop and he did it too much.

So thank you for your support folks, not. :roll:

I also saw the irony here, we always feel what we do isn't good enough for our NT partners (even though my ex was aspie but he acted none spectrum) no matter how hard we try and we also don't like touch. How common is that for us huh? Then I get judged for what I post for all this? Wow , just wow. Why the hypocrisy folks?


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26 Oct 2012, 12:40 am

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I also saw the irony here, we always feel what we do isn't good enough for our NT partners (even though my ex was aspie but he acted none spectrum) no matter how hard we try and we also don't like touch. How common is that for us huh? Then I get judged for what I post for all this? Wow , just wow. Why the hypocrisy folks?


I get why you're upset, but I also see where they're coming from. So many times on dating sites, I've gone thru profile after profile of some lazy dumbass with no job, no car, no anything; These women who had NOTHING, but then the section where it said what they were looking for in a man had salary requirements, sometimes even specific cars he had to drive or certain careers he had to have, in order for them to even consider dating. I think it's wrong for either sex to expect everything from the other. A relationship should be a mutual exchange of love and affection that works for them. It shouldn't be one party being used by the other.

Also, I wanted to say, for the record, I LOVE touching and being touched. I literally can't get enough of it... But at the same time, if I'm not expecting it, like if it's someone I wouldn't expect to touch me, it's extremely awkward, but I don't run away screaming or anything. I'm just not sure how to react to it.



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26 Oct 2012, 12:56 am

DerStadtschutz wrote:
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I also saw the irony here, we always feel what we do isn't good enough for our NT partners (even though my ex was aspie but he acted none spectrum) no matter how hard we try and we also don't like touch. How common is that for us huh? Then I get judged for what I post for all this? Wow , just wow. Why the hypocrisy folks?


I get why you're upset, but I also see where they're coming from. So many times on dating sites, I've gone thru profile after profile of some lazy dumbass with no job, no car, no anything; These women who had NOTHING, but then the section where it said what they were looking for in a man had salary requirements, sometimes even specific cars he had to drive or certain careers he had to have, in order for them to even consider dating. I think it's wrong for either sex to expect everything from the other. A relationship should be a mutual exchange of love and affection that works for them. It shouldn't be one party being used by the other.

Also, I wanted to say, for the record, I LOVE touching and being touched. I literally can't get enough of it... But at the same time, if I'm not expecting it, like if it's someone I wouldn't expect to touch me, it's extremely awkward, but I don't run away screaming or anything. I'm just not sure how to react to it.



So misunderstanding then?


I don't know what others are thinking so I can't really understand their perspective nor their post. I speak of my own experience with my needy ex and my husband touching me too much. And my post was offensive? I never said anything about men needing to be perfect. I said nothing is ever good enough for them. No matter how hard we try, they still want more and my husband felt the need to touch me all the time and it was like it wasn't enough for him.


I guess everyone here has their own idea of what needy is while I was thinking of needy as about my ex and my husband and how hard it was for me. Needy is a relative term I guess.


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