On Dating Aspie Girls
I chose 'no preference' but would have preferred to choose 'Neurodiverse in general' if that was also an option.
My first and only relationship was a ND female - mental disability ('learning difficulties') with 'autistic traits'.
We got along very well and I very much still believe she seemed like and still is a good match for me. However, for whatever reason things haven't worked out too well.
And, in general I prefer people with an alternative outlook on life, uniuqe people, non-conformist, and especially those that do not play 'the game' or follow traditional dating or social rules of getting to know someone.
I could have just said I prefer aspie females, but I do not. I prefer any female with some sort of mild disability/disorder who has also had struggle and I can relate to and also does things differently than most - ADHD, Social Anxiety, OCD, whatever.
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Girls on the spectrum are somewhat rare. I probably know 40+ guys with autism but iv'e only met around 5 girls with autism. Only 1 of them would I actually consider dating.
Not only are autistic girls rare, but most of them arne't that attractive. I know some of you will be offended by this but it's true. Autistic girls (and guys) tend to not be the most attractive people in the world. And when you're a young adult like me, looks matter.
I'm the type of guy who's not going to settle for just anyone. Yes I do want a girlfriend but at the same time, I also have standards. I want a girl whom I can at least be somewhat attracted to. You know what I mean?
Now if she was cute, then yeah i'd consider it. We're both autistic, that's something we have in common.
This is why i'm probably going to be single for a while because i'm not the most attractive guy in the world and i'm not willing to lower my standards to consider dating ugly whales. I have to at least be somewhat attracted to you, the problem is all of the girls i'm attracted to are taken.
So what you see as 'attractive' women should lower their standards and date someone as ugly as yourself....but for you to date someone that less attractive than your ideal you picture in your head would be ridiculous. I am not a big believer in karma but the way you keep referring to any women your not attracted to as 'whales' makes it hard to feel sympathy for you being unable to find a girlfriend. Sounds like your just as superficial and picky as the women who turn you down.
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My first and only relationship was a ND female - mental disability ('learning difficulties') with 'autistic traits'.
We got along very well and I very much still believe she seemed like and still is a good match for me. However, for whatever reason things haven't worked out too well.
And, in general I prefer people with an alternative outlook on life, uniuqe people, non-conformist, and especially those that do not play 'the game' or follow traditional dating or social rules of getting to know someone.
I could have just said I prefer aspie females, but I do not. I prefer any female with some sort of mild disability/disorder who has also had struggle and I can relate to and also does things differently than most - ADHD, Social Anxiety, OCD, whatever.
Kind of the same with me. My ex was a bit too disabled for me. He could barely read, so I had to talk on the phone with him. I hate talking on the phone, so that made it hard to communicate with him.
I was initially drawn to him because he seemed like the least disabled person at my social skills group. I now realize that's not true at all. He just had a good social mask back then.
I've had intelligent conversations with the more autistic looking people of my group. They've also been more successful. They go to university and probably have jobs.
My ex probably wouldn't make it in university. He also has very sketchy friends and girlfriends. His ex-girlfriend pretended to be pregnant.
He's into guns and drugs. He thinks he's a "badass mofo" just because he owns guns. He wasn't joking about that. He was dead serious. He also claims to be friends with drug dealers.
He's fun to talk to, but he's a pretty unreliable narrator. I don't think his social mask is working anymore. He doesn't seem normal anymore, he now seems sketchy and immature.
I think I'll prefer someone who's a bit outside of the mainstream, but doesn't really identify as disabled. If I date someone too normal I'll find them boring and deal with patronizing dynamics.
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Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 82 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 124 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical
My first and only relationship was a ND female - mental disability ('learning difficulties') with 'autistic traits'.
We got along very well and I very much still believe she seemed like and still is a good match for me. However, for whatever reason things haven't worked out too well.
And, in general I prefer people with an alternative outlook on life, uniuqe people, non-conformist, and especially those that do not play 'the game' or follow traditional dating or social rules of getting to know someone.
I could have just said I prefer aspie females, but I do not. I prefer any female with some sort of mild disability/disorder who has also had struggle and I can relate to and also does things differently than most - ADHD, Social Anxiety, OCD, whatever.
Kind of the same with me. My ex was a bit too disabled for me. He could barely read, so I had to talk on the phone with him. I hate talking on the phone, so that made it hard to communicate with him.
I was initially drawn to him because he seemed like the least disabled person at my social skills group. I now realize that's not true at all. He just had a good social mask back then.
I've had intelligent conversations with the more autistic looking people of my group. They've also been more successful. They go to university and probably have jobs.
My ex probably wouldn't make it in university. He also has very sketchy friends and girlfriends. His ex-girlfriend pretended to be pregnant.
He's into guns and drugs. He thinks he's a "badass mofo" just because he owns guns. He wasn't joking about that. He was dead serious. He also claims to be friends with drug dealers.
He's fun to talk to, but he's a pretty unreliable narrator. I don't think his social mask is working anymore. He doesn't seem normal anymore, he now seems sketchy and immature.
I think I'll prefer someone who's a bit outside of the mainstream, but doesn't really identify as disabled. If I date someone too normal I'll find them boring and deal with patronizing dynamics.
*Sigh* as someone with a lot of disabled family members, a lot of the males are like that EXACTLY and I can't fricken stand it. I absolutely hate it. Low-life, 'gangsta' acting, jobless, lazy, out of shape, drug using, rednecked, bogan, innappropriate, over-aggressive, idiotic rednecks. That's the nicest way I can speak about these criminals (yes, some of them are actual criminals as well). There's my uncle with learning difficulties, my other one is also an aspie but I swear he must be undiagnosed with something else, sociopathy maybe as criminal aspies are usually reported to have other disorders as well.
No, I DEFINITELY could NOT stand ever dating the female equivalent, and I know they exist - females with learning difficulties/mental disablities/disorders who area bad person, the kind of ones that would lie about being pregnant.
But I hold out on the hope to find the one's that are GOOD people.
I think there are good and bad in all groups, aspie, non-aspie or neurodiverse in general.
And to be honest, in my humble opinion, they may be harder to find, and they might take years of hard work and searching and patient waiting, but when you finally do meet someone who is ND, and is the GOOD in ND, then you've truly met someone special and one of a kind.
I'm very happy I did wait until later high school to get my first girlfriend. I wanted to be at least 16 or 17 as this is when I feel relationships become more serious. She wasn't just ND but also just happened to have many, many traits I do find attractive in the opposite sex. She's a truly special person to me, and even if we don't end up together I do hope to stay good friends with her, and I'll never forget the good times we've had.
Brief relationship that didn't last, but every second was worth it and it as worth the wait instead of rushing into a 'boring' and 'normal' relationship with an N.T.
I... don't think I like dating girls on the spectrum. I'm lucky enough to not be one of the many aspies to fall into the never been kissed category. I'm not a virgin, and I've actually had a few girlfriends. I enjoy it greatly, and am glad that I've made enough progress socially to begin to notice patterns.
But that's the problem, I have noticed a pattern. I'm not sure whether it's due to sensory issues, or something else, but I'm... not really very satisfied when I'm dating a girl with AS.
I've dated a few of them, and despite the fact that they were quite good looking, and sweet, interesting girls, I... don't feel like I connect with them fully. I'm just so much more sensual, more intimate of a person (also I wear my heart on my sleeve, I don't have trouble expressing my feelings like some guys do). I don't feel physically satisfied when I'm with them, even if we have a great time together. And that physical satisfaction is a layer I crave in my relationships.
Wait, wait, don't leave! I know this sounds kind of like I'm a pervert who only wants to get off, but that's not what I mean. I just enjoy... vibing, I guess, with girls through all forms of physical contact. Cuddling, soft caresses, kissing, etc, and yes, sex in its many forms. I find it lets me be and feel closer to them using more than words (something I always crave, since I'm always striving towards normalcy). I rarely am able to do such things when dating a girl with AS, because they seem to not enjoy being touched much.
I've enjoyed dating neurotypical girls more as a result of this, because they seem much more interesting in connecting in this fashion. I also love the non-verbal communication that aspies find so difficult, so it can be frustrating when a girlfriend doesn't understand certain messages I'm sending.
Now, I know that not all Aspie girls are touch-phobic bumps on logs (and by the same token, not all neurotype females are sensual, affectionate lovers), but I do feel like there's kind of a wall between me and the ones I've been with.
I've been flirting with this girl lately, and I'm quite sure I could date her, but I fear that we aren't a good match for this very reason. I do know she's like this (we have spoken enough to assess this), so I'm not stereotyping her... I just want to be able to have a normal, adult relationship, without having to worry about Autism related issues, but I'm not sure if I'll get it in this case.
My question is, is it offensive to not want to date someone because of AS? I know how devastating it feels to not be wanted for something you can't control, but that it would be worse to try to force a square peg into a round hole. I don't want to be that as*hole who tries to convince her to come out of her shell and cuddle and make out and try sex and stuff, because I learned from one of my high school girlfriends years back that that's jerk behavior. Halp, what to do?
(BTW first time poster, long time monster. How we all doin today?)
Girls on the spectrum are somewhat rare. I probably know 40+ guys with autism but iv'e only met around 5 girls with autism. Only 1 of them would I actually consider dating.
Not only are autistic girls rare, but most of them arne't that attractive. I know some of you will be offended by this but it's true. Autistic girls (and guys) tend to not be the most attractive people in the world. And when you're a young adult like me, looks matter.
I'm the type of guy who's not going to settle for just anyone. Yes I do want a girlfriend but at the same time, I also have standards. I want a girl whom I can at least be somewhat attracted to. You know what I mean?
Now if she was cute, then yeah i'd consider it. We're both autistic, that's something we have in common.
This is why i'm probably going to be single for a while because i'm not the most attractive guy in the world and i'm not willing to lower my standards to consider dating ugly whales. I have to at least be somewhat attracted to you, the problem is all of the girls i'm attracted to are taken.
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This is a general note to everyone - please don't create threads or post posts based on generalisations which might make either gender feel attacked, bellitled or simply unwelcome. If this thread further degenerates into gender wars, it will be locked.
Don't worry, it was just a general notice to everyone, especially those who start threads like this one.
My question is, is it offensive to not want to date someone because of AS? I know how devastating it feels to not be wanted for something you can't control, but that it would be worse to try to force a square peg into a round hole.
Date only who you want to date. Don't worry about being offensive. It is much more hurtful in the long run to date someone who you don't really feel right being with.
So what you see as 'attractive' women should lower their standards and date someone as ugly as yourself....but for you to date someone that less attractive than your ideal you picture in your head would be ridiculous. I am not a big believer in karma but the way you keep referring to any women your not attracted to as 'whales' makes it hard to feel sympathy for you being unable to find a girlfriend. Sounds like your just as superficial and picky as the women who turn you down.
No, I just don't want to date obese chicks. Whale is just another word for obese. I don't think I could ever be into obese women. Curvy or a few extra pounds is fine but obese is unacceptable for me.
God I hate being autistic! I'm 5 ft 3 and autistic, thats a double whammy! I woudn't be so bad looking of a guy if it wasn't for my 5 ft 3 height and autism. I hate it so much! I just want a decent looking girlfriend, is that too much to ask?
Why the f**k did I have to be born this way? No one else in my family is short or autistic. I'm a bad egg, i'm just a load of wasted potential. Even my co-workers treat me as less then equal, every single job iv'e had they treat me as less capable.
Have you ever thought about the chance once you meet a girl who wants to be your GF of having trouble keeping up a non-toxic relationship with that attitude?
I honestly don't think it will work. You have so many beliefs prepared in your head that you will constantly make sure that they are true instead of enjoying your relationship with the girl.
I'm sure it would benefit you if you'd change that. First thing to do is care less about other people's perceptions and do your thing.
Believe me, there are alot of girls with such good personallity and beautiful face and they are not skinny models or something, and they are plain beautiful. And attractive. On the other hand "bad" personallity, or simply not being nice or and other appalling features (for me it would be tattoos, smoking, piercings...) and heck not having the same interests or similiar things to talk about combine all this with hot bod/legs and the perfect breasts and I still wouldn't care.
I agree with sweet leaf on this one. It's all in the brain man, consider this.
About your height, if you wouldn't mind dating a taller girl, alot of girls wouldn't mind shorter guys either.
IMO we often have thoughts about what kind of partner we want and we claim all kinds of stuff about it and are convinced that it's the truth.
But when the situation arises in reality, we may choose differently...
Because the people we meet have personalities and ways of beauty we can't predict.
Isn't one of the advantages of dating that the other person can cover your weaknesses? That's been my experience, at least.
For that reason, I'd be inclined against dating someone who had the same difficulties that I did. That's not to say I wouldn't date an autistic person, but they'd have to have strong organisational skills and be good at thinking on their feet in social situations.
I've thought about dating someone with the same social difficulties as me but I realized we probably wouldn't be a good match. The reason is because I can be so bad at initiating socially that if my potential partner were the same way, neither one of us would really get anywhere. I have the potential to live a more active lifestyle by doing more social things if I am with the right person so if I instead wanted a girlfriend who stayed in the house all day long and didn't want to do anything active, it wouldn't lead to anything promising.
To me dating someone who is more outgoing would probably be the better way to go and could potential help me get out of my shell. I think there needs to be a balance in a relationship, usually one who's more outgoing and one who's more introverted. That way they can bring out the best in each other. I've met people where both of them in the relationship were introverted and completely passive and they are miserable. Neither one of them has the balls to call it quits and it seems like they have settled with each other out of circumstance.
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"The less I know about other people's affairs, the happier I am. I'm not interested in caring about people. I once worked with a guy for three years and never learned his name. The best friend I ever had. We still never talk sometimes."
It's only offensive if you pre-judge them as incapable of expressing affection, doing things for themselves, etc. Putting everyone in a narrow category that dictates who they are, what they like, and what they can do without allowing for their individual preferences and experiences.
You like what you like. Some people want to be very intimate, others not so much. Aspies tend to express differently and can come across as colder, so you may have fewer matches there than elsewhere in addition to the fact that there's just fewer of us to choose from.

