I am starting to doubt that humans are capable of true love
LoverOfDragons
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Evidence, please?
The mere fact that a lot of people believe in something does not make that something real.
You know, yesterday I watched an episode of My Little Pony, and one of the characters realized that even if you're unable to give an explanation about something that sounds ridiculous doesn't mean that it's not real or anything. One chooses whether to believe in that something or not. In the case of true love, there are those who believe that there is such a thing as true love without actual evidence or an explanation. Of course, there are also those who don't believe there's such a thing, such as yourself. I believe there is such a thing as true love, but hey, you know what they say: we agree to disagree.
Short version: "I have no evidence other than MLP videos, but I'm going to believe in True Love anyway."
LoverOfDragons
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True love is any good stuff left over after the spark of infatuation is gone. If there isn't anything good, then it wasn't true love.
True love is hoping in the midst of hopelessness. True love is believing in the unbelievable. True love is sacrifice, giving when you know you will never receive. True love is gratefulness, being grateful, even when there seems to be nothing worthy of being grateful for. True love is ultimate, unconditional forgiveness. True love is being a friend when the other person deserves nothing less than an enemy. True love is commitment to the very end. True love, when given freely, takes root in stony hearts or passive observers, and brings forth the fruit of kindness, mercy, perseverance, and even more true love. True love survives even when the body dies. True love is what relationships, when properly tended, eventually grow into.
True love is something that you give, not something you expect to receive.
True love is NOT connecting instantly when your eyes first meet. True love is NOT finding your "soul mate". True love is NOT being so perfectly matched that you never have an argument, disagreement, etc. True love is NOT easy. True love is NOT having your partner never disappoint you. True love is NOT sex. True love is NOT lust. True love is NOT even passion, though it can be passionate.
Evidence, please?
The mere fact that a lot of people believe in something does not make that something real.
Every romantic poet who ever lived. Every sacrifical love poem ever written. My parents-in-law. My wife. The simple fact that, at 44 and virtually unable to express emotions the same way a normal person does (even though I have the same emotions), I am starting to understand the meaning of sacrifice, and commitment, in the context of true love.
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We love you always Bonnie. Bless God as you have blessed us.
Next was a girl who seemed so sweet in every way.... her hobbies were so cute, and we shared interests completely. She was a perfect match to me, and I loved talking with her. I quickly had fallen in love with her. Suddenly, she just disappeared. There was no way for me to get in contact with her, anymore. Initially, I tried to remain positive, but soon, my life turned into a living nightmare and crying myself to sleep turned into me walking around like a zombie, and going to bed as a zombie. My life had been ruined. The girl I loved had just... disappeared. A month and a half later, it turned out she had been taken into a psych ward, and she admitted to me about her rather severe mental problems. I told her I was fine with that, and made it clear that I would be by her side. Unlike last time, though, I wanted to make sure I wouldn't have said that I love her, too early, so even still, I never had told her that I loved her. My thoughts were that if you overuse a word, it loses its meaning. I wouldn't make that mistake, again. Suddenly, one day, completely out of the blue, she wanted me to "prove" that I love her. So, I finally said that I love her, but obviously, it was not the right situation to say that, when she now even demanded proof. I asked her what she wants me to do to make her believe me - did she want to talk on the phone...? No, that was out of the question, apparently (we had never talked on the phone, yet, at that time). I called her anyway, and she just freaked out and seemingly dropped the phone on the floor. A week or so goes without me hearing from her. Suddenly, she SMS'es me with tons of love in the tone of it.... later that day, she asks me if I would still love her, even if she had lied about something. I asked her if she had just lied about her name, which she didn't reply to. It quickly started to seem obvious that she was hiding something very bad.... turned out she, as well, had been unfaithful to me, recently, with her ex-boyfriend, losing her virginity in the process. She also had lied about her name and many other things. I still do not know if anything about her was true. She was extremely creative, so I think she may have just made everything up.... yet I loved her, anyway. I probably just fell for lies, yet I apparently thought she was my dream girl, anyway.
Next, I found a girl who had shared dreams with me - we clearly had had a psychic connection. The first e-mail she wrote me almost made me feel love at first "sight". It's amazing what a connection we had, and I could tell, *this* time, that there was no way she was dishonest. What a wonderful girl she was! Everything about her was perfect, and we were compatible in every sense of the way. But it was not to be. She changed her mind on some priorities in life, and suddenly we no longer were compatible, and it ended. It left me with an absolutely hollow feeling...... if even *this* girl wouldn't be my true love, despite the psychic connection we had had, and the amazing chemistry, then how could anyone...? It made me finally realize that I may have been wrong about true love. While I still believe it exists, I am now deeply questioning its presence among humans. Since I have been born human, I do believe it may even be out of reach for me, as well. You have heard it countless times - "True love *does* exist; me and my girlfriend have been together for almost ten years and we both still love each other as much as when we met." Suddenly, they have a crisis and it ends, and if it doesn't end, the passion is gone. Maybe humans simply lack the intellect of being able to fully understand true love...? And since true love is all I live for...... if humans cannot experience it..... doesn't that mean that I should die...? Because there is no real point to anything else, in life. True love is the single point of it that there is. So if I, as a human, cannot experience it.... doesn't that mean that I shouldn't be human...? That I shouldn't be on this particular planet...?
Thanks for reading. I've wanted to get this out, for a while, now.
I am in your same boat I tried dating a couple of girls. But never came to the dating part. One even asked me out...And I liked her... But the thing is that...She was a disrespectful druggie and I know I shouldn't be around that. Being a good looking emo (I don't cut myself and am happy most of the time) trying to find the right woman who is like yourself is difficult. Unlike some guys who were looking for sex objects I was looking for true love like you Beauty Pact. Sad thing is that while almost everyone I know has found love I feel like I'm left out and ignored. I wish that when it came to finding true love you didn't have to perfect what you say and instead just be yourself and prove that you are more than some guy looking for sex. Sure I may want sex and it comes up in my head, but it is last on my list. What is first is having her be more than my best friend. Which is probably why you should try to be friends at first. The difficulty with that is what if that person (it came happen to women) just wants to be friends with you instead of actually wanting to be more and she is the only one who you know is your friend? Or what if she found a guy way before you could invite her some place. Stuff happens. And I know not that much people know this. Love is like candy.
We all want to be the crying baby who gets all the candy it wants. But what we don't realize is that we are about to get candy.
Just remember life is great. Soon you'll find that person who will love you. I may too someday, even if I turn up to be 60 years old for having it the first time. Which would be sad...
I don't have an opinion on most of the things you said, but you mentioned twice that one of your girlfriends lost her virginity to somebody else while you knew her. I think it is very likely that they lost their virginity a long time ago and just lied about it. I think you said that one of the girls broke up with you for 8 months, and then got back together with you, and then lost her virginity. I am thinking she was probably dating somebody during those 8 months with whom she probably lost her virginity many times over, if she hadn't already lost it. I don't think most people get scared and back out of a relationship unless they have a better dating alternative lined up. That's not really important to the story, but I really doubt that you happened to meet all these virgin girls who happened to be deeply in love with you, especially because of the flaky behavior that you described. They are probably all a bunch of liars. Personally I don't care about all that virgin stuff, but since you mentioned it I thought I would give my opinion.
True love is both made and earned, not something you find in someone at all. Whether a guy and a girl or any other combonation works, is truly up to the people that start it. When a person does what they did OP'er, it is best to brush it off your shoulders and move on. Getting as far as you have with dating, I have not done it myself though, is still a very committed investment to you, from your tone. Any way that works is fine, just be cautious, not many people actually want to get hitched/be loyal, so make sure you know them enough to be sure.
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The key to this debate is the definition of "true love". If someone's standards for true love are too high, they'll never find it, and don't believe. If someone's standards are too low, "soulmates" are everywhere and after enough heartbreak, they often lose their belief in it, as the OP has done.
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As to the first comment, that's not possible under any stretch of the imagination. Even if you choose to consider each orifice to have its own virginity, the maximum number of times is 3,unless it is a really thin penis that fits into nostrils and ear canals, then you could technically consider 5,even though each nostrils opens to the same cavity., but at that point I would question the wisdom of dating such an individual.
To the second comment, that depends on the person's life experiences, among other things. People with G.A.D. frequently get scared and end relationships without alternatives.
As to the doubts about virginity, not everyone becomes sexually active as they mature. Many choose to wait, and just as many are not presented with the opportunity, for various reasons. Some don't even like the thought of sex. However, I do concede that it is statistically unfavorable for the possibility of meeting multiple virgins, who all "fall in love with the same man and who all give their virginity to someone else. However, it is still possible, regardless of the statistical probably analysis.
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Bonnie, The Boxer, ~2005/2006 - October 26th 2013
We love you always Bonnie. Bless God as you have blessed us.
lol is that a joke? I didn't mean what I said literally. I literally lol'd when you described the different orifices.
And I don't just think it's a statistical analysis. If they are acting flaky by breaking up with him and getting back together but they never have sex with him, I think that sounds like they are probably using him as an emotional boost when they are in between relationships. My understanding is that that's fairly common.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I see it.
BTW, I can make a girl lose her virginity twice, because my penis is big enough to fit in two vaginas at the same time.
little_black_sheep
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I think love may be true, but it is rarely eternal. Many people seem to feel quite often that they found their true love. However, mostly they turn they back at them as fast as they fell in love. People in general lack constancy.
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Like the stuff of belief and religion, true love simply exists. You can deny its existence for all time but you will lose. It is what it is and I dare say that those who have experienced some form of it know what I am talking about. It changes your life, for better or for worse. Go figure. Eliza
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No one needs an obsession at that level. And there is nothing holy in that kind of fanatical obsession. Also, an expectation of unconditional, ''true'' love is nothing but selfishness IMHO. Love is (and should be) based on reciprocity.
Yeah I know, there are films, poems... but they are no evidence for true loves existence. ''Flying Spaghetti Monster'' should be enough to falsify that argument. Finally:
“We owe to the Middle Ages the two worst inventions of humanity - romantic love and gunpowder.” -Andre Maurois
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