Should I offer to visit her?

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14 Nov 2013, 3:26 pm

I find it interesting, the various levels of paranoia, knowledge, and prudishness displayed on this thread.

In many states in the US, for instance, especially on the east coast, the age of consent is actually 16, so even if something did happen it wouldn't necessarily be illegal depending on which state the young lady lives in.
Age of consent varies quite a bit in the US and worldwide.
The average worldwide is around 15, but in the US it's all 16+, depending on the state.

Here's a map in case anyone's interested:

[img][800:632]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Age_of_Consent.png[/img]



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14 Nov 2013, 3:58 pm

Interesting map. The legal age in Spain isn´t 12 though, it´s 13, and it´s gonna change: http://politica.elpais.com/politica/201 ... 40657.html



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14 Nov 2013, 4:32 pm

IreneS wrote:
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If I found out a 24 year old flew across the country to visit my 16 year old daughter and I didn't even meet him, I'd hunt him down.


But if you were 12 when you had your daughter, wouldn´t you be more understanding? (if you really are 28 and have a 16 year old daughter that is).


I don't have kids, I was just saying if I did. And if I did I would be LESS understanding because I while I would love her with all my heart, I wouldn't want her to be a teen mom.

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I find it interesting, the various levels of paranoia, knowledge, and prudishness displayed on this thread.


Do you watch the news? Just do some googling about the number of innocent people who's lives have been ruined by talking to underage girls. It's NOT paranoia, it's REAL. Parents press charges all the time, sometimes they stick, sometimes they don't, but it's still a lot of trauma, stress and money to fight.

I know there are some on this forum who think the age of consent is a joke, or should be lowered to "when they bleed" but the law is the law.



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14 Nov 2013, 4:46 pm

IreneS wrote:
Interesting map. The legal age in Spain isn´t 12 though, it´s 13, and it´s gonna change: http://politica.elpais.com/politica/201 ... 40657.html


I figured that it wasn't 100% accurate, after all these things change over time and it was from wikipedia which isn't always 100% up to date, and if one is in a situation where such things matter one should always research the local laws before taking any actions that may get one in a lot of trouble.

Just because they may in fact be out to get you, the fact is you can't know that they are necessarily in any given case, so thinking that they are all the time is paranoid in my opinion.
Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with paranoia; I'm rather paranoid myself and I've found that it has at times kept me out of trouble.

I was just saying that I found the various levels of paranoia, ranging from extremely paranoid to not paranoid at all, on this thread to be interesting, that's all.



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14 Nov 2013, 4:56 pm

The biggest problem I see with being romantically involved (sex or not) is what the OP is bringing up. Parents. Parents who are responsible for their kid still. It'd be one thing if she were independent and living on her own, but she's not. She's got parents who, I can pretty much guarantee, would be quite upset if you were to visit her. Maybe you could pretend to be gay or something for them? Would she have to tell her father about it? Would he kick her out if you were to have sex and he found out?

Heck, I left home for school when I was 17, 1 year didn't exactly turn me into a responsible adult where I wasn't one before. Obviously you want to go visit her, it's HER choice, not her dad's, if she wants you to visit. She, and both of you, should be prepared for what might happen. The best person to tell you about how her dad would react is her.

Unfortunately, parents can kick kids out or make a kid's life miserable and it's their prerogative as the parent to do that. Relationships with adults means adult relationships, and usually that means ignoring your parents save for advice that will probably fall on deaf ears anyways.


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14 Nov 2013, 5:57 pm

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18 Dec 2013, 2:32 am

Update: I talked to her and she wants me to visit her when she is 18. We did however, exchange phone numbers so hopefully we will still be close by 2015. I think she's really special : )



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18 Dec 2013, 3:24 am

And once she hits 18, she gets a boyfriend without you even knowing it.

Move on with your life, don't make her your only option.



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01 Feb 2014, 6:09 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
And once she hits 18, she gets a boyfriend without you even knowing it.

Move on with your life, don't make her your only option.


She's actually planning to marry this guy from Egypt but it's way off in the future (4 years) and honestly I doubt it will happen. Thing is she really likes me too. I want to convince her to be with me instead, but I don't know how.



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01 Feb 2014, 7:00 pm

donnie_darko wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
And once she hits 18, she gets a boyfriend without you even knowing it.

Move on with your life, don't make her your only option.


She's actually planning to marry this guy from Egypt but it's way off in the future (4 years) and honestly I doubt it will happen. Thing is she really likes me too. I want to convince her to be with me instead, but I don't know how.


Wait, what?

You're going to wait for this girl who already wants to get married to someone else? WTF?



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02 Feb 2014, 4:15 pm

MadeUnderground wrote:
donnie_darko wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
And once she hits 18, she gets a boyfriend without you even knowing it.

Move on with your life, don't make her your only option.


She's actually planning to marry this guy from Egypt but it's way off in the future (4 years) and honestly I doubt it will happen. Thing is she really likes me too. I want to convince her to be with me instead, but I don't know how.


Wait, what?

You're going to wait for this girl who already wants to get married to someone else? WTF?


Well I didn't realize how serious she was until recently. I actually just broke off our friendship though. It just can't work if I want her so bad.