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07 Jun 2014, 7:45 pm

I get harassed on the street pretty often, but mostly it's by people asking for money or similar. I give it to those who look like they are desperate or really need it, but you can't help everyone and often that is not even the best way to help these people. Sometimes they can get quite rude or even threatening if I say no....I had one lady who got down on her knees and started screaming/crying when I refused to buy her a $30 laxative at the store. Nearly gave me a panic attack!



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08 Jun 2014, 2:54 pm

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The user you are referring to obviously has an IQ really below normal, couldn't you tell by his writing? I know there are street offenders in life, but most of us here are not that low, nor we would make good friends with such guys (those are usually bullies).


I don't think IQ's what makes the difference, though -- I mean as you point out, these guys are bullies, and for sure there are bright bullies around.


Many shades of dim bullies must be aggregated, where are we anyway? Web ~3.2?


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09 Jun 2014, 3:52 pm

As a mostly asexual male I can see the reason for the discrepancy. It's not just that "average" heterosexual males are visually aroused. It has to do with how guys talk around other guys. You're pressured to say things like "I'd tap that" or such nonsense in purely male company with no women in earshot. It's all about proving you're "one of the bro's". So, you get a lot of a**holes who take it another step and make cat-calls that are meant to be heard, or something worse. Do they realize it's scary to women? That in some cases it leads to physical harassment or worse? That women on the street don't know if you're dangerous? Who knows? Maybe if they knew what they were doing and the effect it had on women they would question it and not bow so easily to idiotic peer pressure. I think a lot of men just need to be educated.



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09 Jun 2014, 4:20 pm

marshall wrote:
As a mostly asexual male I can see the reason for the discrepancy. It's not just that "average" heterosexual males are visually aroused. It has to do with how guys talk around other guys. You're pressured to say things like "I'd tap that" or such nonsense in purely male company with no women in earshot. It's all about proving you're "one of the bro's". So, you get a lot of a**holes who take it another step and make cat-calls that are meant to be heard, or something worse. Do they realize it's scary to women? That in some cases it leads to physical harassment or worse? That women on the street don't know if you're dangerous? Who knows? Maybe if they knew what they were doing and the effect it had on women they would question it and not bow so easily to idiotic peer pressure. I think a lot of men just need to be educated.


At school, I was thought to be gay or like one described me "dysfunctional sexual" (he explicitly asked me if I ever get erections) because I never made any kind of reactions/gestures when some hot girl passes by. Ironically, even the girls assumed I was gay because of that.

That reminds too of that loud annoying buff guy in the gym, he saw me with my friend a while ago (who's overweight - especially in the bottom part) when she wasn't around he was like VERY loudly "OOo WHO'S that? Did you TAP THAT ASS?" my response was "she's just a friend" - then he repeated a similar comment twice in another day so I blew it angrily in his face "what about to tap your face instead?" and telling him to stop that , he was like 8O "oh sorry man but she has a nice ass", he stopped it for quite a while but then in the other day he said "so, you didn't tap it yet?" - I just gave him a stare, he doesn't seem to learn.



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09 Jun 2014, 4:22 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
That reminds too of that lout annoying buff guy in the gym, he saw me with my friend a while ago (who's overweight - especially in the bottom part) when she wasn't around he was like VERY loudly "OOo WHO'S that? Did you TAP THAT ASS?" my response was "she's just a friend" - then he repeated a similar comment twice in another day so I blew it angrily in his face telling him to stop that, he was like 8O "oh sorry man but she has a nice ass", he stopped it for quite a while but then in the other day he said "so, you didn't tap it yet?" - I just gave him a stare, he doesn't seem to learn.

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09 Jun 2014, 4:37 pm

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That reminds too of that lout annoying buff guy in the gym, he saw me with my friend a while ago (who's overweight - especially in the bottom part) when she wasn't around he was like VERY loudly "OOo WHO'S that? Did you TAP THAT ASS?" my response was "she's just a friend" - then he repeated a similar comment twice in another day so I blew it angrily in his face telling him to stop that, he was like 8O "oh sorry man but she has a nice ass", he stopped it for quite a while but then in the other day he said "so, you didn't tap it yet?" - I just gave him a stare, he doesn't seem to learn.

you can't teach a dog to be anything but a dog.


Don't insult dogs.

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09 Jun 2014, 4:40 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
That reminds too of that lout annoying buff guy in the gym, he saw me with my friend a while ago (who's overweight - especially in the bottom part) when she wasn't around he was like VERY loudly "OOo WHO'S that? Did you TAP THAT ASS?" my response was "she's just a friend" - then he repeated a similar comment twice in another day so I blew it angrily in his face telling him to stop that, he was like 8O "oh sorry man but she has a nice ass", he stopped it for quite a while but then in the other day he said "so, you didn't tap it yet?" - I just gave him a stare, he doesn't seem to learn.

you can't teach a dog to be anything but a dog.


Don't insult dogs. I like dogs.

my apologies. how 'bout this- "mediocrity only comprehends itself"? [I don't remember who said that]



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09 Jun 2014, 4:45 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
That reminds too of that lout annoying buff guy in the gym, he saw me with my friend a while ago (who's overweight - especially in the bottom part) when she wasn't around he was like VERY loudly "OOo WHO'S that? Did you TAP THAT ASS?" my response was "she's just a friend" - then he repeated a similar comment twice in another day so I blew it angrily in his face telling him to stop that, he was like 8O "oh sorry man but she has a nice ass", he stopped it for quite a while but then in the other day he said "so, you didn't tap it yet?" - I just gave him a stare, he doesn't seem to learn.

you can't teach a dog to be anything but a dog.


Don't insult dogs. I like dogs.

my apologies. how 'bout this- "mediocrity only comprehends itself"? [I don't remember who said that]



دنب الكلب بضل اعوج (Levant Dialect, so don't even try the translator)

"The dog's tail will never straighten out." - an Arab proverb.



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09 Jun 2014, 4:58 pm

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دنب الكلب بضل اعوج (Levant Dialect, so don't even try the translator) "The dog's tail will never straighten out." - an Arab proverb.

thanx :) that is added to my box of bon mots.



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09 Jun 2014, 11:38 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
At school, I was thought to be gay or like one described me "dysfunctional sexual" (he explicitly asked me if I ever get erections) because I never made any kind of reactions/gestures when some hot girl passes by. Ironically, even the girls assumed I was gay because of that.

That reminds too of that loud annoying buff guy in the gym, he saw me with my friend a while ago (who's overweight - especially in the bottom part) when she wasn't around he was like VERY loudly "OOo WHO'S that? Did you TAP THAT ASS?" my response was "she's just a friend" - then he repeated a similar comment twice in another day so I blew it angrily in his face "what about to tap your face instead?" and telling him to stop that , he was like 8O "oh sorry man but she has a nice ass", he stopped it for quite a while but then in the other day he said "so, you didn't tap it yet?" - I just gave him a stare, he doesn't seem to learn.

So it isn't just the US. I experienced that kind of crap too. It was usually white guys acting misogynistic in order to appear "ghetto". I wish people like that would simply die. They waste oxygen.



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10 Jun 2014, 5:08 am

marshall wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
At school, I was thought to be gay or like one described me "dysfunctional sexual" (he explicitly asked me if I ever get erections) because I never made any kind of reactions/gestures when some hot girl passes by. Ironically, even the girls assumed I was gay because of that.

That reminds too of that loud annoying buff guy in the gym, he saw me with my friend a while ago (who's overweight - especially in the bottom part) when she wasn't around he was like VERY loudly "OOo WHO'S that? Did you TAP THAT ASS?" my response was "she's just a friend" - then he repeated a similar comment twice in another day so I blew it angrily in his face "what about to tap your face instead?" and telling him to stop that , he was like 8O "oh sorry man but she has a nice ass", he stopped it for quite a while but then in the other day he said "so, you didn't tap it yet?" - I just gave him a stare, he doesn't seem to learn.

So it isn't just the US. I experienced that kind of crap too. It was usually white guys acting misogynistic in order to appear "ghetto". I wish people like that would simply die. They waste oxygen.


That's bit too harsh, as long they didn't kill or rape or harass someone then there's still a hope for them :lol:.

Btw, this guy is successful in getting dates and gfs. There's that engaged girl who's always excessively showing interest in him and telling him that things are falling apart with her fiance, he even asked me once if he should date her.... well, she's crap too.



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10 Jun 2014, 10:43 am

In some situations, like school, work, social groups, I think the smart bullies/harassers are the worse ones. They know how to mask it just enough to make it hard to pin down or cross the line clearly into getting in trouble over it. Its easier to call out and expose a dum one.

As far as why they do it, there are probably multiple reasons, but they all seem to relate to the person trying to establish a more dominant position in a primitive way. Its like chickens hen peck to establish a definite hierarchy or dogs fight, to establish their position in the group. Or in other words a way to make themselves feel more powerful and higher up by pushing someone else down. The thing is most of them pick what they interpret as easy targets, who are not combative/confrontational. This way there is little risk for them.

Its a very cave-manish approach. Apparently many men have not progressed much past that yet. But they are afraid of fire. Fire BAD! Nice people should start carrying small flame throwers and toast their asses. :idea:



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11 Jun 2014, 1:32 am

tarantella64 wrote:
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The user you are referring to obviously has an IQ really below normal, couldn't you tell by his writing? I know there are street offenders in life, but most of us here are not that low, nor we would make good friends with such guys (those are usually bullies).


Okay, now the hair splitting has gone too far. Does anyone really want any men on their planet who are incapable of such a discussion? I know my tone bites, but what I've tried to say is that this discussion is quite demeaning towards pretty much all but the tiny minority of guys who NEVER INTERACT WITH WOMEN. I can't understand all this reasoning on account of my chromasomal makeup so I'll just say this: misogyny is inherited when folks like OP voluntarily forget how they were taught to share a planet, hopefully in elementary school.


cberg, I'm sorry, I'm rereading this and I still have no idea what you're talking about. Why is this discussion demeaning to men? (Also, I don't know whether you noticed, but men are among the victims of street harassment mentioned in the survey.)



It may came across demeaning to men here.

It's like a guy going to the women's forum, and posting some stats of gold diggers to discuss why gold digging is harmful and why many guys fear gold diggers, I bet a lot of women there would feel offended and feel they're being indirectly accused of being gold diggers. cberg is probably feeling that you're somehow associating these guys in the stats to the guys on L&D, and you probably came across unfairly lecturing to the wrong audience, even tho we can identify only one case among us here who admitted of doing the whistling behavior (and I bet he's doing it because he's imitating "cool bros", like a kid assimilating bad habits from adults, I don't think he's evil, just mentally challenged and ofc he must learn to stop it).