A WP guide to getting women, by women.

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I'm not sure that 2 and 6 are completely compatible with each other. Would you say that chivalry is not a gendered thing and it's nice for women to buy men drinks too? And men to buy men drinks, and women to buy women drinks...

The way 2 is worded it sounds like you are giving men a gender role, but then in 6 you negate that so I'm not sure what you mean.

What is this I don't even

But-but-but... women are just liars who don't know their own minds anyway!

Take a shower and brush your teeth, otherwise no hugsnkisses for you. And wash your genitals if you want my mouth anywhere near them. I will pay you the same courtesy.



Just make sure it's clean and all the bits are covered. I suck at fashion.



YMMV, but I prefer if everyone pays for themselves.

I mean the many many threads parroting PUA tactics, saying women are biologically destined for nurturing, motherhood, female hypergamy, hyper focus on sex over relationship, hyperfocus on appearance of women over any other quality etc. The very many threads crying poor me and bitterness and why feminism is from hell because it makes women less interested in men. It actually shocked me when I first landed on this site to be honest. I've seen it all before but AS men appear to have a particular love for these idea's from what I can see. I've never dated an AS man and after reading what I've read here I probably never will either. They seem to have a particularly rigid mindset and an overall hatred of females, it doesn't seem like a good catch to me.

As for this thread I was very put off by the title. How To Get a Woman. I am not cattle or livestock for the 'getting'. I am a person who chooses to be with you or not. When you reduce human relationships down to a series of tactics (PUA or not) it devalues what a relationship is, or rather should be. A mutual meeting of the minds in admiration and respect. I cannot respect a man who merely mimes being nice while he harbours basic feelings of being superior, looking down upon me and treating me like some object he owns.

I didn't know what a "PUA" was until I got to WrongPlanet.

I used to know a few guys like that in the "singles' bar" 70's. They tended to wear leisure suits and wear heavy pendants on their chests.

I haven't known many since.

I certainly don't ascribe to the ideology.

I rest my case.


Possibly the reason why you are married while others are writing threads about how women don't like them or want to stick around. The only thing I've noticed with any kind of PUA thread (not just on here but on other forums too) is that belief in PUA ideology and lack of success with women appears to go hand in hand. Correlations like that shouldn't be ignored.

Really? Leisure suits and pendants? LOL! Just like in PC game series Leisure Suit Larry!

It may make em irresistible to redneck or trashy women.

How bout just be yourself and dont give in to stupid traditions dictating your gender? On a date either you pay for the whole bill or its dutch and 50/50 talk to her before hand before leading to confusion and sex is not expected after at least 10 dates but if she offers before hand at around 5 go for it otherwise if you reject it she will feel hurt and humiliated!

I sent the OP a message defending some PUA's in the hope of keeping the thread clear of bicoring, but it started without me so heres the loud approach,lol

I've never known any Asper women, do you have social troubles as us man? Norms, Non-verbles and such? If so I can see how easy it would be for you become offended by the baser PUA tactics.
You see as Aspers we deal in reality in, what is; NT's deal in perseption,what is seen through the lens of what they love/hate/fear/respect/etc... PUA tactic are ALL in the realm of perseption, as such the first time I read up on them I thought they were the most trumped up fictional nonsence this side of the King James Bible, sound firmilure? add in offened maybe? The differences from our minds to theirs is enough turn that nonsence into social Norms.

Something you may not expect, is that we hate these games far more than you do, it feels like some cruel joke has been played on us.To be placed in a game of instinct and emotion without command of either.
At this point in my life my NT "Mask" is well made but its still heavy. You have no idea what I would give to just let it fall away when meating someone and let the jenuinly good person that I fight so hard be shine through, but in the world of perseptions that is not an option.

A man who asks for a womans input on a first date is seen as indisiceive rather than consideret.

A man who calls/texts after the first date is seen as clingy rather than interested.

A man who answers texts promptly is seen as boring and lacking a life rather than just shooting off a text on the walk to the car.

THESE ARE NOT OUR CHILDISH GAMES!! !

But they are games we must play, can you really falt us for wanting a rule book?
Look at the examples I gave, can you really say that they are not bat sh*t crazy when viewed in any context but dating. "Sorry I didn't talk to you after the meeting boss didn't want to seem to clingly",lol.

I love women, I love to make them smile and laugh, I love the feel of them beside me cuddled on the couch(one at a time of course ) watching a movie, and I love the way the good ones can make me feel so stupid without the grin ever leaving my face
I am thankful for every one I have had in my life,and PUA's for helped put them there.

Keep it positive ladies don't lash out at what you don't like, give us something better we will abandon the PUA's on our own

I hate PUA and never went into it - but most go into them because they were initially not successful with women, not the other way around.
It goes like this: He was always unsuccessful with women --> went to PUA --> still unsuccessful or maybe worse because pua is bs.

I don't like where this thread is going, Echolalia, and I don't like what you are implying here:

"Single WP men who are single/virgin are unsuccessful with women are misogynist and they are unsuccessful because of that"
"Married WP Men are never misogynist".

Well, Fnord for example is married yet he talks about female hypergamy and the importance of job for men (a view wish is sexist in your opinion), he is pro-Bill Cosby and hates gold diggers.

In life, I see appallingly sexist married/in-relationship men all time - shocking: there seems to be no correlation between sexism and success in relationship - that's why domestic violence is common too; in fact, the most appallingly chauvinist men who view women as sex objects often turn out to be very successful in attracting women, and the wealthier the class the worse (the worker class men are more likely to have traditional view, true, but the rich class are way more likely to see women as commodity and sex objects - I've seen this attitude so much countless of time, won't go into details, just think of the Wolf of wall street movie to get an idea), and I've known men who have ideally egalitarian view of women yet are single. There are a lot of all kinds :married sexist, single sexist, married egalitarian, single egalitarian...etc.

Real life examples:
- My previous senior coworker (in 40s): Christian, not much religious at all, Married with a 25-yo working nurse , has two toddler daughters, always been in relationships, he firmly believes that literally no woman would be interested in a guy without a house/car, he even told me that once to my face regarding my dating situation "if you don't have a car at least, it's impossible", he said. He very firmly in all those gender roles too, he rank women by "fuckability", he was also once charged with a sexual harassment by a female coworker but was just warned, not fired (and surprise, the boss was a lady who doesn't like much this female coworker) - not sexually loyal to his wife as he many times wanted to drag me to strip clubs.

- A work partner (in 40s): Muslim, barely religious, a CEO, was married with 2 kids got divorced because was dating and sleeping around, had plenty of gfs and re-married twice again soon after divorce, tall, leany-muscled and actor-like looking. A lot of married and single women asked me for details about him, then I see them later together.

- A senior man (in his 60s): Christian, married three time, a grandfather, was CEO and very senior, he's now marrying a young one again. He thinks all women are prostitutes, enough said.

- A current coworker (~29): Atheist, tall and handsome, has a gf and always had gfs, not loyal, he thinks that his future wife should stay home. nuf said.

- I recall 4 college "buddies" who all had serious gfs, most were classmates too, (while I was single) and they always wanted to drag me to the brothel they frequent but i never did, I was surprised the first time telling them "but you have gfs, no?" - they laughed, and they had a derogatory view on women in general. They are all married now, 4 of them with the same gfs.


I am not promoting that guys should be like those, not at all, but my point is that there's no correlation between how much a man is sexist and his success in attracting women, not at all.
Chronic celibacy may be caused by something else, like...well, autism severity?



One more thing, really , for all of you here.... stop repeating things like "WP is the most sexist board on the net" ..etc, no it is NOT, this is a hyperbole, go see 9gag, youtube comments, reddit, comment sections in known newspapers, pua boards, go see any dating sites ' boards - and you'll find out the real sexism there in its most appalling form, it's everywhere.

It would be better of instead of implying things like "single men on wp have sexist views..." - it would be much more fair if you NAME them, we had two men-hating members before and I was used to name them, say "Member X, Y ,Z are sexist" and why.

The most successful PUA-like book is for women written by a woman, "The Rules" - it's so full of sexism and gender roles, it's full of how they should deal with men in order to gain things, and it's perhaps, the most influential and best selling pua book in the history of mankind ever, maybe it sold more than the total of all most successful pua for men books.

It is so popular to the point that it's being inherited from mothers to daughters, like some bible.

"a camel doesn't see its hunchback" -an old Arab proverb.

When I was college student I did once year-long experiment on the topic "What behavior do girls prefer more - gentle or brutal and sexist". It was simple - I dated girls from sites and behaved with ones with respect and with others I was rude, abused them, harassed and so on. The latter was not always easy for me though - its not the way I act usually.
There were different girls - rich and not, from full families and with just one parent, with or without brothers and sisters... Finally no one girl wanted to be with me from the "good behavior" group but half of girls abused by me were ready to continue relations. If ever I need it... So for me result was obvious - behave like sadistic sexist and you'll have success. That's not what I was aspiring to find out.

^ if you were capable to do these things then you're/were actually messed up.
Abusing, harassing? all in the name of research? lol

Kinda reminds me of nazi researchers.

The PUA stuff is generally more effective with women who have aggressive personalities imo. I think aggressive women are attracted to aggressive men anyway that's why it works. Aggressive behaviour can border on the line of abusive though. The op's advice on the other hand is better if you are looking for a woman with a more laid back personality. A common mistake some people make, following a bad stereotype, is thinking all women are the same.