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13 Apr 2007, 1:35 pm

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The only disability we face is living in a world designed pre-dominantly around NT strengths and weaknesses and NT biases.
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Biggest NT comeback they would say, ”Everyone is different. With their own strengths and weaknesses, society is no really bias to anyone in particularly ”

Except they all know it's a crock of s**t.

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14 Apr 2007, 6:40 am

I used to beat myself up over a lot of things.

Now I just kick the living crap out of my ego whenever testosterone tries to make a comeback in my brain. Especially right now :(


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14 Apr 2007, 2:09 pm

8iG0TEd hYP0CRITe nt'5 h4Ve pH4ILEd


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14 Apr 2007, 8:00 pm

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I'm reaching out here, I'm trying to tell you that you are more than a label, more than a disability, more than an illness or a cancer. You are a human being, and furthermore, you are Aspergian. Be proud, for it is people like us who make history, event, write, create, by challenging the norms. Bill Gates, Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, they were Aspergian. They were OUR people. So were Emily Dickinson, Thomas Edison, George Washington Carver, Openheimer, Nietzche, most likely Aspergian.


Anyone can make history; it's not exclusive to a mental state. Unlike this forum, excellence doesn't discriminate.


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15 Apr 2007, 11:26 am

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I'm reaching out here, I'm trying to tell you that you are more than a label, more than a disability, more than an illness or a cancer. You are a human being, and furthermore, you are Aspergian. Be proud, for it is people like us who make history, event, write, create, by challenging the norms. Bill Gates, Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, they were Aspergian. They were OUR people. So were Emily Dickinson, Thomas Edison, George Washington Carver, Openheimer, Nietzche, most likely Aspergian.


Anyone can make history; it's not exclusive to a mental state. Unlike this forum, excellence doesn't discriminate.


That's not my point. My point was that AS isn't something to be ashamed of.



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15 Apr 2007, 12:07 pm

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I'm reaching out here, I'm trying to tell you that you are more than a label, more than a disability, more than an illness or a cancer. You are a human being, and furthermore, you are Aspergian. Be proud, for it is people like us who make history, event, write, create, by challenging the norms. Bill Gates, Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, they were Aspergian. They were OUR people. So were Emily Dickinson, Thomas Edison, George Washington Carver, Openheimer, Nietzche, most likely Aspergian.


Anyone can make history; it's not exclusive to a mental state. Unlike this forum, excellence doesn't discriminate.


That's not my point. My point was that AS isn't something to be ashamed of.

YOU.ARE.GAWD!! !! !


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15 Apr 2007, 1:38 pm

Neither is it something to take pride in; instead, take pride in yourself and not what you have.


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15 Apr 2007, 1:57 pm

I don't "have" Asperger "syndrome", it's part of who I am, it's not a disease or an illness. Assuming this is like assuming you "have" femaleness, or to assume blacks have "blackness" or mexicans have "mexicaness". There are just as many pros as cons in being Aspergian, the only "disability" is intolerance.



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15 Apr 2007, 1:57 pm

So yes, I am proud to be Aspergian.



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15 Apr 2007, 2:00 pm

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Neither is it something to take pride in; instead, take pride in yourself and not what you have.
Your logic phailz yet again :wink:


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15 Apr 2007, 2:07 pm

MarieElana wrote:
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I'm reaching out here, I'm trying to tell you that you are more than a label, more than a disability, more than an illness or a cancer. You are a human being, and furthermore, you are Aspergian. Be proud, for it is people like us who make history, event, write, create, by challenging the norms. Bill Gates, Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, they were Aspergian. They were OUR people. So were Emily Dickinson, Thomas Edison, George Washington Carver, Openheimer, Nietzche, most likely Aspergian.


Anyone can make history; it's not exclusive to a mental state. Unlike this forum, excellence doesn't discriminate.


What you fail to realise is that society discriminates against us, this is where any possible resentment to NTs would come from. We truely have no voice. Now I'm not saying that it justifies being biggoted towards all NTs, because it doesn't. But, right now most of NT society is either consciously or sub-consciously racist against Aspergians. \
I do not call it a "syndrome" because "syndrome" implies that we're a cancer, or a disease, or a burden, which we're not. Hell at one time people treated gays and bi's this way, as a "disfunction".....
Many aspies are raised in a NT world, brow beaten into submission and low self confidence. We are educated through NT methods and taught NT theories of mind, which cancel out the Aspergian in Aspergians more often then not. Because we are raised in this world and much of it boils down to environmental psychology.
Aspies aren't without faults ourselves though, we're not perfect beings either. Far from it, as a matter of fact. Many of us become too entrapped in our views and become over-emotional, however, many of those who do so are bred into NT-world biases. I think this is evolution in progress, but who'se to say how aspies would thrive without being molded by the NT machine to try and emulate NT behavior?



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15 Apr 2007, 3:24 pm

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AS isn't an illness or a disease, it's part of who we are. I know there are hardships for us, I live with them every day of my life. But the only illness here is ignorance and apathy from those who judge us. THEY have made you feel this way about yourselves, they've made you feel helpless. I can see this in many of your posts. The only disability we face is living in a world designed pre-dominantly around NT strengths and weaknesses and NT biases.
But many of us are great people, some of us are just as independant and just as capable of taking care of ourselves as any NT person on the planet. Sure, we might not grasp their social rituals, but the added intellectual gift more than makes up for that.
I'm reaching out here, I'm trying to tell you that you are more than a label, more than a disability, more than an illness or a cancer. You are a human being, and furthermore, you are Aspergian. Be proud, for it is people like us who make history, event, write, create, by challenging the norms. Bill Gates, Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, they were Aspergian. They were OUR people. So were Emily Dickinson, Thomas Edison, George Washington Carver, Openheimer, Nietzche, most likely Aspergian.

good post but what does this have to do with "love and dating" ?



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15 Apr 2007, 3:50 pm

yeah I probably should have put this in the haven, but I was kinda careless about finding a certain place here to post it... I'm usually not like that though.