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04 Jul 2018, 4:20 pm

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... For the certainty some seem to want... don't have sex at all.
That doesn't always work. Guys can still get in trouble if a woman merely says he had sex with her, especially if she's pregnant. It could take up to a year (sometimes longer) for the man to get the courts to issue an order for DNA analysis to disprove her allegations of paternity.

It took my brother 20 years. He's still trying to get his money back.


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04 Jul 2018, 6:31 pm

Keeping your schlong in your pants greatly reduces the odds......your friends situation is outside the norm.



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04 Jul 2018, 6:35 pm

Boo, devout Catholics are obviously not the intended audience in this thread as they are not believing in sex out of marriage....



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04 Jul 2018, 6:37 pm

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Just do that or be sorry later when she tells you she's on the pill....or he tells he is not with anyone else.

Being realistic. People are going to have sex. At least protect yourself. Buy the condoms and have them ready for showtime....nobody is going to want to run to Walmart late at night....

Yeah, and we wouldn't want WrongPlanet in 2038 to be full of threads like "where is my dad?", "so i got my gf pregnant" and "nice guys finish last"


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04 Jul 2018, 6:47 pm

I get a few free whenever I can. That way, I don't have quite as much reason to feel sad when they expire.


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05 Jul 2018, 4:10 am

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You want 100% contraception? Men, keep yer goddamn schvance in your pants! Ladies, don’t flaunt it. Better yet, submit to what we put companion animals through: spay and neuter!


Technically speaking it is safer for guys to have that done than for women...there is a complication that can happen if women 'get their tubes tied' as some call the operation. Its possible a pregnancy can develop in said tubes not quite in the uterus which can cause a major health emergency if it happens. There is no such risk with a male getting a vasectomy.


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05 Jul 2018, 4:15 am

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Meistersinger wrote:
You want 100% contraception? Men, keep yer goddamn schvance in your pants! Ladies, don’t flaunt it. Better yet, submit to what we put companion animals through: spay and neuter!


Technically speaking it is safer for guys to have that done than for women...there is a complication that can happen if women 'get their tubes tied' as some call the operation. Its possible a pregnancy can develop in said tubes not quite in the uterus which can cause a major health emergency if it happens. There is no such risk with a male getting a vasectomy.

Because men can’t get pregnant, there’s risks with any surgery and possible complications too



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05 Jul 2018, 8:19 am

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Keeping your schlong in your pants greatly reduces the odds ... your friend's situation is outside the norm.
You're not exactly a "Trailer-Park Girl", are you? There is a class of people for whom paternity is as ill-defined as gender is to a member of the LGBTQ community. For those women, the Rules of Paternity are as follows:

1- If he has a job, he's the father.
2- If we held hands, he's the father.
3- If I can take him away from her, he's the father.
4- If we slept under the same blanket, he's the father.
5- If he once saw me naked, he's the father.
6- If we worked together, he's the father.
7- If he looks like the baby, he's the father.
8- If I think he's the father, he's the father.
9- If I say he's not the father and change my mind later, he's the father.
10- Once he's the father of one of my children, he's the father of them all.


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05 Jul 2018, 10:02 am

Fnord wrote:
HistoryGal wrote:
Keeping your schlong in your pants greatly reduces the odds ... your friend's situation is outside the norm.
You're not exactly a "Trailer-Park Girl", are you? There is a class of people for whom paternity is as ill-defined as gender is to a member of the LGBTQ community. For those women, the Rules of Paternity are as follows:

1- If he has a job, he's the father.
2- If we held hands, he's the father.
3- If I can take him away from her, he's the father.
4- If we slept under the same blanket, he's the father.
5- If he once saw me naked, he's the father.
6- If we worked together, he's the father.
7- If he looks like the baby, he's the father.
8- If I think he's the father, he's the father.
9- If I say he's not the father and change my mind later, he's the father.
10- Once he's the father of one of my children, he's the father of them all.

I’m with HG on this. But this is true, also. All you need to do is flip through the TV channels at the wrong time of day and catch either Maury or Jerry Springer. I recognize a lot of those people are coached and much of it is just playing to the camera. But these people don’t just come from nowhere. They may not be as exaggerated as their reality TV counterparts, but they really do think that way.

Reminds me of when I was “doing time” teaching in underserved school districts. The guidance counselor in all her infinite wisdom put a girl and her baby daddy together in my class. I don’t recall the exact circumstances, but a fight broke out between the two with him screaming at her, to which she nonchalantly and calmly kept repeating “you ain’t nuthin but a sperm donor.”



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05 Jul 2018, 10:12 am

AngelRho wrote:
Fnord wrote:
HistoryGal wrote:
Keeping your schlong in your pants greatly reduces the odds ... your friend's situation is outside the norm.
You're not exactly a "Trailer-Park Girl", are you? There is a class of people for whom paternity is as ill-defined as gender is to a member of the LGBTQ community. For those women, the Rules of Paternity are as follows:

1- If he has a job, he's the father.
2- If we held hands, he's the father.
3- If I can take him away from her, he's the father.
4- If we slept under the same blanket, he's the father.
5- If he once saw me naked, he's the father.
6- If we worked together, he's the father.
7- If he looks like the baby, he's the father.
8- If I think he's the father, he's the father.
9- If I say he's not the father and change my mind later, he's the father.
10- Once he's the father of one of my children, he's the father of them all.

I’m with HG on this. But this is true, also. All you need to do is flip through the TV channels at the wrong time of day and catch either Maury or Jerry Springer. I recognize a lot of those people are coached and much of it is just playing to the camera. But these people don’t just come from nowhere. They may not be as exaggerated as their reality TV counterparts, but they really do think that way...
The first time I saw an episode of Povich or Springer (I forget which), I remember thinking "Did they get these people out of the trailer park on the north or south side of my home town?"

Disclaimer:Even though I'm bagging on "Trailer Trash", NOT ALL PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN TRAILER PARKS ARE LIKE THIS! In fact, most of the people who live in trailer parks or "Mobile Home Estates" are nice, community-minded, hard-working, law-abiding people. There is just a certain type of person who seems to gravitate toward the more seedy trailer parks, and who behave like English/Irish "chavs"


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05 Jul 2018, 5:07 pm

My town has its share of trashy people too. Sometimes when I see Maury or Jerry Springer, I wonder which ghetto neighborhood in my town did they find these people at? The schools in my area are full of teenagers with collections of baby mamas and baby daddies. What really sucks is that the tax payers end up footing the bill so these teens and young adults can keep having babies that they can't afford. I hate seeing irresponsible behavior being rewarded at the expense of people who are responsible.



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06 Jul 2018, 4:02 am

ladyelaine wrote:
My town has its share of trashy people too. Sometimes when I see Maury or Jerry Springer, I wonder which ghetto neighborhood in my town did they find these people at? The schools in my area are full of teenagers with collections of baby mamas and baby daddies. What really sucks is that the tax payers end up footing the bill so these teens and young adults can keep having babies that they can't afford. I hate seeing irresponsible behavior being rewarded at the expense of people who are responsible.


Which is where the conservatives get the idea of welfare queens, which is why they want welfare, SSA, Medicare/Medicaid eliminated, no matter if you’re truly disabled.