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26 Jul 2018, 7:37 pm

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Eh. You may be surprised that there are women who actually act like human beings and are very interested in getting to know men. Some of us not only make the first moves but we also actually - GASP - pay our own way and theirs too if needed.

Are you implying women who expect the men they date to pay for what they're getting act like not human beings?, because, you know, you'd be insulting the vast majority of women who've ever walked the Earth.

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It might also surprise you that there are some men who don't like that. They'd rather the women take the subservient role.

What exactly is the surprise?

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That's nice and all. To each their own. I prefer to make my own money and not have to rely on anyone.

Nice straw man. Not selling yourself short has nothing to do with not making your own money; in fact, its more like the opposite.

Meh. More like women not acting like they have a hive mind. It seems like there are many of the guys here on WP seem to think that all women act and think the same. Seems like they've gotten their socialization skills from watching movies and TV shows.

If you like women being in the subservient role, cool. If you like women who are more dominant, cool. There's something for everyone.

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26 Jul 2018, 8:02 pm

SilverStar wrote:

I think the person that's ask's should be the one to pay.

I don't think women, or men should expect the other person to pay all the time, either.

Western society says men ask out women give signs they want asked out, so by that logic the guy pays every time.why?

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26 Jul 2018, 11:39 pm

Luhluhluh wrote:

It seems like there are many of the guys here on WP seem to think that all women act and think the same.

Thinking that we are all unique is the most common hive mind thought.

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27 Jul 2018, 12:16 am

i wonder what drives people to see the opposite gender as mysterious, magical cryptic beings with unknown motivations that need to be so difficult to understand?

i'd like to think that we all just want the same things.

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27 Jul 2018, 12:26 am

SilverStar wrote:

I think the person that's ask's should be the one to pay.

But why?

When a friend initiates an outing, that does not mean he/she will pay.

That’s just an execuse a lot od women repeat to make men pay.

And btw, do you really believe that most women would pay even if they do the asking out?
I don’t think they will.

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27 Jul 2018, 1:14 am

Luhluhluh wrote:

Meh. More like women not acting like they have a hive mind.

So you insist on insulting them. Real nice.

Luhluhluh wrote:

It seems like there are many of the guys here on WP seem to think that all women act and think the same.

I guess you can read our minds :roll:

Luhluhluh wrote:

Seems like they've gotten their socialization skills from watching movies and TV shows.

That sounds a lot like you think we all act and think the same. Anyway, nice straw man. Statistical facts, like market phenomena, have nothing to do with denying individual differences. I get you don't like what I'm saying, so you practise the standard response of muddying the issue and trying to make me look bad. You might as well say I'm forgetting the sky is blue—it's just as irrelevant.

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If you like women being in the subservient role, cool. If you like women who are more dominant, cool. There's something for everyone.

The only one here who ever said anything about dominant and subservient rôles is you. Again, nice straw man.

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27 Jul 2018, 1:24 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:

i wonder what drives people to see the opposite gender as mysterious, magical cryptic beings with unknown motivations that need to be so difficult to understand?

Not knowing them.

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i'd like to think that we all just want the same things.

It's pretty obvious there are major differences between what the vast majority of men and the vast majority of women want.

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27 Jul 2018, 1:31 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:

They ARE aliens to us, even their brain structure is different than us males.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/ ... -and-women

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27 Jul 2018, 1:32 am

314pe wrote:

Luhluhluh wrote:

It seems like there are many of the guys here on WP seem to think that all women act and think the same.

Thinking that we are all unique is the most common hive mind thought.

"But I am unique" ...then he/she repeats things that over 90% of his/her sex want.

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27 Jul 2018, 1:37 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

When a friend initiates an outing, that does not mean he/she will pay.

I've read women saying that precisely the fact that the one doing the asking out—i.e., the man—pays the whole expense is what marks the event as a date.

But I think it's best summed up as the escort did: "I'm already bringing something of economic value to the table". And she was talking about real dates, not going out with clients.

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27 Jul 2018, 1:45 am

Spiderpig wrote:

It's pretty obvious there are major differences between what the vast majority of men and the vast majority of women want.

such as?

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27 Jul 2018, 1:51 am

Such as the ones mentioned above. I'm not going to repeat the whole thread.

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27 Jul 2018, 1:54 am

that's dating etiquette, but ok.

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27 Jul 2018, 5:21 am

I only expect the other person to pay if they hassle me into going somewhere with them.

It doesn’t happen now I am older, I just tell them no.

If I want to be there, I will pay my share or both depending on the situation.

For example if my friend pays for me one time, I will pay the next. A bit of give and take. The same applies on dates, back when I went on them.

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