Being a naturally shy, whimpy, awkward unmanly guy

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06 Oct 2018, 11:14 am

I attendeded a travelling in high risk areas training session last week. The advice for dealing with muggers is to always carry a ten dollar note in your jacket pocket. If you get mugged, give it to the mugger and say, "this is all I have." They'll grab it and scarper.

This advice came from a man who had been in the army. If my guy fought a mugger I'd think he was an idiot



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06 Oct 2018, 11:33 am

That's pretty good advice. Though there's always a risk that the mugger du jour grabs something of yours at random as a parting gamble, like a purse or some jewelry.


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06 Oct 2018, 11:46 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
That's pretty good advice. Though there's always a risk that the mugger du jour grabs something of yours at random as a parting gamble, like a purse or some jewelry.


Still better than getting stabbed. You can cancel your credit cards quicker than a stab wound can heal.



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06 Oct 2018, 3:41 pm

hurtloam wrote:
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Who in the world would you be defending you or your partner against in this day and age? It's not like Vikings are going to come and pillage the town.

Shy and not interested in grunt-grunt man things is my type of guy. Which is why I'm seeing that type of guy now. I like a more refined man. I'd rather join him at a classical concert than a football match (neither of which I am into myself).

Internal aggression is very unattractive though. Dark simmering and ready to bite with nasty words is not someone anyone wants to be around.

You need to figure out why you feel that way and work out how to turn it around.


Guys at bars, muggers, people she gets in fights with, etc
Some women i dont know how many expect a bf to defend their honor, so say a guy calls her a slut. She expects her bf to kick his ass for it, there are such women here in wp even.


Those scenarios have never happened in my life.... and I live in a city. Don't go out with a girl who starts fights and hangs out in dive bars would be my advice.

Excuse me while me and my quiet chap enjoy a gin and tonic at the opera.

Edited to point out sarcasm. I've never been to the opera in my life.


You’re an inovert though. Retrogsmer posted about how his gf got in a accident and was mad he didn’t defender her, most here agreed he should have stayed and defended her.
Most people still think a guy should defend his lady.
I’m incapable of physical defending myself non less a lady, so it’s another red flag against me. I also am non violent so I would not attack someone for something they said to my lady. We also come from different cultures and nations. It’s common here for men to get in fights over so,e insult to their lady. Thst one guy got shot recently trying to defend his gf who was fighting with a guy over a parking spot. He felt he needed to physical attack a guy for fighting with his gf.
Another reason I’m afraid to ask women in public is if they have a bf there’s good chance he’ll hit me for flirting with his woman.



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06 Oct 2018, 3:43 pm

Diffence between a robber and muggler is muggle roughs you up or kills yiu. Robber just takes your money and leaves. Thief’s will grab your item and run.



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07 Oct 2018, 12:15 pm

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What is wrong about wanting to become a traditionally masculine man in some ways?


Nothing whatsoever. In fact, I'd commend it. But speaking as a fairly masculine guy; if one takes a look at oneself and does not like what's there, the least manly thing to then do is to give up and wallow in self-pity. Better then to either work on improving your percieved flaws, or find ways to work around them. Earnest striving for self-improvement is a masculine virtue in and of itself.


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07 Oct 2018, 6:36 pm

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Is there any hope for a guy who naturally is - shy, whimpy, lack aggression toward people who hurt me or my partner, cannot stand up for myself, not socially savvy or aggressive, but tend to have internal aggression toward my own family like even my mom.
Not if you keep calling yourself that.


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07 Oct 2018, 6:39 pm

sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Who in the world would you be defending you or your partner against in this day and age? It's not like Vikings are going to come and pillage the town.

Shy and not interested in grunt-grunt man things is my type of guy. Which is why I'm seeing that type of guy now. I like a more refined man. I'd rather join him at a classical concert than a football match (neither of which I am into myself).

Internal aggression is very unattractive though. Dark simmering and ready to bite with nasty words is not someone anyone wants to be around.

You need to figure out why you feel that way and work out how to turn it around.


Guys at bars, muggers, people she gets in fights with, etc
Some women i dont know how many expect a bf to defend their honor, so say a guy calls her a slut. She expects her bf to kick his ass for it, there are such women here in wp even.


Those scenarios have never happened in my life.... and I live in a city. Don't go out with a girl who starts fights and hangs out in dive bars would be my advice.

Excuse me while me and my quiet chap enjoy a gin and tonic at the opera.

Edited to point out sarcasm. I've never been to the opera in my life.


You’re an inovert though. Retrogsmer posted about how his gf got in a accident and was mad he didn’t defender her, most here agreed he should have stayed and defended her.


She got into an argument with a guy. She wasn't in any physical danger.


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07 Oct 2018, 11:08 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Who in the world would you be defending you or your partner against in this day and age? It's not like Vikings are going to come and pillage the town.

Shy and not interested in grunt-grunt man things is my type of guy. Which is why I'm seeing that type of guy now. I like a more refined man. I'd rather join him at a classical concert than a football match (neither of which I am into myself).

Internal aggression is very unattractive though. Dark simmering and ready to bite with nasty words is not someone anyone wants to be around.

You need to figure out why you feel that way and work out how to turn it around.


Guys at bars, muggers, people she gets in fights with, etc
Some women i dont know how many expect a bf to defend their honor, so say a guy calls her a slut. She expects her bf to kick his ass for it, there are such women here in wp even.


Those scenarios have never happened in my life.... and I live in a city. Don't go out with a girl who starts fights and hangs out in dive bars would be my advice.

Excuse me while me and my quiet chap enjoy a gin and tonic at the opera.

Edited to point out sarcasm. I've never been to the opera in my life.


You’re an inovert though. Retrogsmer posted about how his gf got in a accident and was mad he didn’t defender her, most here agreed he should have stayed and defended her.


She got into an argument with a guy. She wasn't in any physical danger.


So? Some women want the man to defend them not just physically.
Whole “you’re suppose to always take my side”



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08 Oct 2018, 12:55 am

sly279 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Who in the world would you be defending you or your partner against in this day and age? It's not like Vikings are going to come and pillage the town.

Shy and not interested in grunt-grunt man things is my type of guy. Which is why I'm seeing that type of guy now. I like a more refined man. I'd rather join him at a classical concert than a football match (neither of which I am into myself).

Internal aggression is very unattractive though. Dark simmering and ready to bite with nasty words is not someone anyone wants to be around.

You need to figure out why you feel that way and work out how to turn it around.


Guys at bars, muggers, people she gets in fights with, etc
Some women i dont know how many expect a bf to defend their honor, so say a guy calls her a slut. She expects her bf to kick his ass for it, there are such women here in wp even.


Those scenarios have never happened in my life.... and I live in a city. Don't go out with a girl who starts fights and hangs out in dive bars would be my advice.

Excuse me while me and my quiet chap enjoy a gin and tonic at the opera.

Edited to point out sarcasm. I've never been to the opera in my life.


You’re an inovert though. Retrogsmer posted about how his gf got in a accident and was mad he didn’t defender her, most here agreed he should have stayed and defended her.


She got into an argument with a guy. She wasn't in any physical danger.


So? Some women want the man to defend them not just physically.
Whole “you’re suppose to always take my side”


I didn't want to take her side. She may have been wrong anyway. I've got no time for nepotism.


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08 Oct 2018, 1:07 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Who in the world would you be defending you or your partner against in this day and age? It's not like Vikings are going to come and pillage the town.

Shy and not interested in grunt-grunt man things is my type of guy. Which is why I'm seeing that type of guy now. I like a more refined man. I'd rather join him at a classical concert than a football match (neither of which I am into myself).

Internal aggression is very unattractive though. Dark simmering and ready to bite with nasty words is not someone anyone wants to be around.

You need to figure out why you feel that way and work out how to turn it around.


Guys at bars, muggers, people she gets in fights with, etc
Some women i dont know how many expect a bf to defend their honor, so say a guy calls her a slut. She expects her bf to kick his ass for it, there are such women here in wp even.


Those scenarios have never happened in my life.... and I live in a city. Don't go out with a girl who starts fights and hangs out in dive bars would be my advice.

Excuse me while me and my quiet chap enjoy a gin and tonic at the opera.

Edited to point out sarcasm. I've never been to the opera in my life.


You’re an inovert though. Retrogsmer posted about how his gf got in a accident and was mad he didn’t defender her, most here agreed he should have stayed and defended her.


She got into an argument with a guy. She wasn't in any physical danger.


So? Some women want the man to defend them not just physically.
Whole “you’re suppose to always take my side”


I didn't want to take her side. She may have been wrong anyway. I've got no time for nepotism.


Well some women aren’t going like that.



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08 Oct 2018, 2:07 am

Oh, I posted in the wrong thread. Ignore me.



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08 Oct 2018, 2:53 am

Ok. So this is making me think i really do have a chance at something good with my introvert guy. Yeah I kniow i just made this about me, but i feel like i dont have much of an edge over other women, why would he want me... because I accept him for who he is :D

I bet you anything he gets distracted by someone prettier and goes out with her instead even though she talks too much and wants too much attention and won't give him any peace and tries to change how he dresses. That's what always happens. Men don't want the quiet girls either.



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08 Oct 2018, 3:05 am

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Men don't want the quiet girls either.


If by "quiet" you mean "don't give the men any attention", then yeah, they're not going to want you. Men like attention.



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08 Oct 2018, 3:09 am

I don't understand men. Why do you want to attract women that you're not compatible with? Is it just for sex? Do real connections mean nothing to you? Do you want someone that's always pulling you up for how you are and trying to change you just for sex? Is it really worth it?



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08 Oct 2018, 3:09 am

I recall she said she invited the guy several times, that should be an obvious attention.