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Todd489
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27 Aug 2007, 6:37 pm

I honestly felt bad for you until I read the part that said you were both only 16. Now I just don't care.



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27 Aug 2007, 7:25 pm

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Three days is a long time not to talk to someone you're exclusively dating, if there isn't some good reason. . . like, when I lived in Taz and was dating a Baltimoron, I was a little hard to get a hold of.

Why necessarily? I see your point it is not conventional, but maybe that is what they need just to see each other on weekends. A controversial idea is that some couples actually spend too much time with each other, they become two dependent but the bond is not there it is just self perpetuating angst. Kind of similar to how this girl is writing to be blatantly honest. I know it is different when you generally do care for someone, but still doesn’t mean you aren’t both stuck in a negative behavioural cycle. From what I’ve read humans are experts of learning bad behaviours they get stuck in these cycles and the don’t know how to break the cycle or worse aren’t even aware that it is bad. Forget about blame and fault that is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The question is can you be creative and smart and mature enough to break the cycle? They might want to approximately map the cycle(s) between both her and him. Probably best to read a few CBT books so to get the general idea.


If they decide that's what the relationship needs, that's one thing; randomly, it's something else. . . with no interfering factors, no prearrangement, and half the couple not happy with it, it's a legitimate sign of some sort of trouble.


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27 Aug 2007, 7:32 pm

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I have noticed in quite a few posts by aspies, this issue of wanting to be called, etc, needing affirmation a lot, needing real, obvious assurance of the other's feelings for us, even being somewhat clingy and needy...yet, it makes no sense as aspies are, at least I thought, mostly known to dislike that behaviour in others when it comes to themselves?

Is this an aspie thing, the insecurity in relationships and need for reassurance and contact?


Uh. . . as far as I can tell, no. Like, really, really no.

But I've been noticing lately that something like half of my social world is aspie or autie. . .


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27 Aug 2007, 7:33 pm

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I honestly felt bad for you until I read the part that said you were both only 16. Now I just don't care.


And yet you cared enough to make such a charming comment as this.


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28 Aug 2007, 3:32 am

Jainaday wrote:
Todd489 wrote:
I honestly felt bad for you until I read the part that said you were both only 16. Now I just don't care.


And yet you cared enough to make such a charming comment as this.


I thought it was sweet.



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28 Aug 2007, 8:30 am

I called him up yesterday right after posting this and I asked him how serious he was about this. He said he was extremely serious, but then I went over my insecurities- his habits of never calling, how I'm never over there, why he doesn't say he loves me...granted, I was bawling for most of the time, so I don't actually know how much got across.

He said I was over-reacting, because I was worried about school coming up. [This is also true; school has been a bit of a sensitive point for me...] He said he'd try to call more often and spend more time with me.

This news comforted me until that night, last night, at around 9:30. I waited for him to call, and he didn't. We usually talk at 9:30 at night, so it wouldn't have been unusual for one of us to call, but I was kind of hoping he would since we had discussed it that very morning.

A friend of mine recommended that I track all the contact over a period of a week, just to see where things stand in paper between us, and to mention things I'd told him about, to see if he remembered. The conversation went as thus.

He sounded cheerful on the phone, and I told him about work without his asking beforehand. I mentioned a dog that I particularily like, and he had no idea who I was talking about, even though I'd mentioned it before. Then he went on to talk about how he had looked up cheap flights to Israel, because he might go next summer. This kind of bugged me because we'd entertained the idea of taking a trip together before he left for college. And before I could say anything, because I wasn't going to bug him about it, he says, "No." He then went on to tell me that I couldn't go to Israel with him because it was some self-discovery trip, which is great and all, and I totally support that. I don't have to be everywhere and anywhere with him, but it would have been nice if we could have done something together, too, but he's now placed this Israel trip as his first financial priority.

Aside from that, the conversation was mundane. I did most of the talking, until he said that he had to go to sleep and we hung up. No "I love you." Nothing. I even waited for him to say it, but then he hung up. He didn't even mention my little morning breakdown.

He's not AS, or maybe he hasn't been diagnosed. I'm going to track these for a week and see what goes where. My birthday's in a month, and he's already complaining about the financial setback he'll have and he's set a limit on spending for both of our birthdays- $100. Meanwhile, I'm looking online for waterproof $500 watches and new messenger bags...

I feel like it's both of our faults, and it's bothering me, but I don't know where to start.



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28 Aug 2007, 8:38 am

Jainaday wrote:
If they decide that's what the relationship needs, that's one thing; randomly, it's something else. . . with no interfering factors, no prearrangement, and half the couple not happy with it, it's a legitimate sign of some sort of trouble.

Sure he might be aspie though so he might not be aware that he is letting things slide. A frank talk about it could be a good idea.



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28 Aug 2007, 8:54 am

"I love you" is quite a stong phrase to say, well it can be. My friend says the first three or so relationships she had were great for the fist year or so. She felt exactly like she wanted to spend the rest of her life with them and spend every second with them. It isn't like that, relationship are different after a while. You are going to have to adapt, it isn't a cushy thing it is something you work on.



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28 Aug 2007, 8:56 am

$100~=£50. If you can make/get something from the heart $20 is enough.



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31 Aug 2007, 6:23 am

I get "I love yous" off random people on the
street.



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31 Aug 2007, 2:19 pm

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I get "I love yous" off random people on the
street.


*laughing. . .*

Yes, my favorite thing about church.

All these people love me.

Now if only they could remember my name. ;)


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01 Sep 2007, 5:59 pm

Wow, you get that from church?

I get it off people who've seen me dance.



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04 Sep 2007, 1:44 pm

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Wow, you get that from church?

I get it off people who've seen me dance.


Think about this for a moment.

I get the feeling yours mean it somewhat more than mine. . . or at least differently.

They love everyone. . . . Jesus told them to.

Which I suppose just means that love means something entirely different to them than it does to me. . .

Unless I eminate cosmic rays of spiritual lovability?!?!??!??


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04 Sep 2007, 6:53 pm

Jainaday wrote:
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Wow, you get that from church?

I get it off people who've seen me dance.


Think about this for a moment.

I get the feeling yours mean it somewhat more than mine. . . or at least differently.


Yeah. They seem to claim it for WHAT I do,
rather than out of duty. But, it's false. Worship,
not love. I'll settle for it though - 'tis a start.

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They love everyone. . . . Jesus told them to.

Which I suppose just means that love means something entirely different to them than it does to me. . .


Funny. I feel this sense of duty to love everyone,
but haven't figured out just HOW yet. I think that I
can taste it, just a bit, every now and then.

Unless I eminate cosmic rays of spiritual lovability?!?!??!??



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04 Sep 2007, 10:17 pm

Todd489 wrote:
I honestly felt bad for you until I read the part that said you were both only 16. Now I just don't care.


I know that excessive trolling is discouraged, but you are an ass. Emotions are equally valid for those younger than you. In many cases, lack of insight or perspective may cause the emotions to be more intensely painful as said insight and perspective would help one to deal with these issues. And this is assuming that a sixteen year-old lacks this insight.

For the OP, this is called snubbing. He doesn't like you as strongly any more but lacks the testicular fortitude to say a bloody thing about it, so he chooses not to initiate contact in the hopes that you will end the relationship instead of him. Unless you are a godan black belt in emotional manipulation, dump the bastard. I apologise if this is a little ex post facto and/or excessively blunt. I pride myself on concision and clarity of language, not subtlety.



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04 Sep 2007, 10:20 pm

....yeeeaaahh this is probably WAY ex post facto.

Oh well.