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18 Jun 2011, 11:52 pm

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To be honest, MCalvera, most women would be happy with a guy who does not mess them around, is a decent person and has traits that match/complement theirs. Things like height and wealth are not as high priorities when it comes to happiness and this is true for many women I know.


I know it's not intentional, but you are being a bit misleading.

Height is a big priority among women. He doesn't have to be tall, but he still has to be taller ... unless the girl is of the unusual type who doesn't care if the guy is shorter than her or she sees very high status in that man despite his height.

most men are taller than most women. the average woman would have difficulty finding a shorter man


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18 Jun 2011, 11:54 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
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To be honest, MCalvera, most women would be happy with a guy who does not mess them around, is a decent person and has traits that match/complement theirs. Things like height and wealth are not as high priorities when it comes to happiness and this is true for many women I know.


I know it's not intentional, but you are being a bit misleading.

Height is a big priority among women. He doesn't have to be tall, but he still has to be taller ... unless the girl is of the unusual type who doesn't care if the guy is shorter than her or she sees very high status in that man despite his height.

most men are taller than most women. the average woman would have difficulty finding a shorter man


Still doesn't change my point.

A 165 cm girl isn't going to likely go for a 160cm guy, for example.



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18 Jun 2011, 11:57 pm

MCalavera wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
zen_mistress wrote:
To be honest, MCalvera, most women would be happy with a guy who does not mess them around, is a decent person and has traits that match/complement theirs. Things like height and wealth are not as high priorities when it comes to happiness and this is true for many women I know.


I know it's not intentional, but you are being a bit misleading.

Height is a big priority among women. He doesn't have to be tall, but he still has to be taller ... unless the girl is of the unusual type who doesn't care if the guy is shorter than her or she sees very high status in that man despite his height.

most men are taller than most women. the average woman would have difficulty finding a shorter man


Still doesn't change my point.

A 165 cm girl isn't going to likely go for a 160cm guy, for example.

it does change your point. i've never even met a guy shorter than me that was available to date, and i am only slightly below average height for a woman. the chances of ever seeing a woman with a shorter man are quite small.

besides, you are assuming it is the woman deciding... maybe men don't want to date taller women


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19 Jun 2011, 12:29 am

I once had a boyfriend who was 5"4 and I briefly dated a guy who was 5"2 but it only lasted one date and then he found another girl (who was 5"5).

I think it is harder to get a date when you have some unusual characteristic, but it applies to many of us on the board as we have AS which is very unusual.


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19 Jun 2011, 2:40 am

Okie dokie getting back to my literary approach to this, yer I know am going out on left field with this :lol:

In an university seminar on leadership psychology a lecturer used the following quote from act 2 scene 5 of Twelfth Night.

Malvolio wrote:
Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them.


My seminar group was asked is leadership hereditary, nurtured by life experiences, or by being in the right place at the right time? The quotation was taking from the scene where Malvolio finds a love letter written by Olivia. So putting this back into the context of love.

Are relationships based on hereditary factors, life experience or by being lucky?

If you wish you might want to look at Caliban in The Tempest from both an evolutionary and psychological perspectives for a case study.



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19 Jun 2011, 7:25 am

hyperlexian wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
zen_mistress wrote:
To be honest, MCalvera, most women would be happy with a guy who does not mess them around, is a decent person and has traits that match/complement theirs. Things like height and wealth are not as high priorities when it comes to happiness and this is true for many women I know.


I know it's not intentional, but you are being a bit misleading.

Height is a big priority among women. He doesn't have to be tall, but he still has to be taller ... unless the girl is of the unusual type who doesn't care if the guy is shorter than her or she sees very high status in that man despite his height.

most men are taller than most women. the average woman would have difficulty finding a shorter man


It's not like all men are taller than all women, there are a lot of women who are taller than a lot of men.

This how the population looks like:

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As you, there are some woman who are taller than some men in that sample, couples do not really look like that in real life though.


This how couples almost always look like in reality:

Image

Noticed the difference?



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19 Jun 2011, 9:37 am

Umm..

"Almost always..."

I am so curious where did you get the stastics from :P

But I think I would agree your opinion from my particular cases.



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19 Jun 2011, 10:53 am

metaphysics wrote:
Umm..

"Almost always..."

I am so curious where did you get the stastics from :P

But I think I would agree your opinion from my particular cases.


Easy, observe couples around, in malls, in events, in public garden, in concerts, taller_woman_with_a_shorter_man couples are very rare.



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19 Jun 2011, 11:46 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
zen_mistress wrote:
To be honest, MCalvera, most women would be happy with a guy who does not mess them around, is a decent person and has traits that match/complement theirs. Things like height and wealth are not as high priorities when it comes to happiness and this is true for many women I know.


I know it's not intentional, but you are being a bit misleading.

Height is a big priority among women. He doesn't have to be tall, but he still has to be taller ... unless the girl is of the unusual type who doesn't care if the guy is shorter than her or she sees very high status in that man despite his height.

most men are taller than most women. the average woman would have difficulty finding a shorter man


It's not like all men are taller than all women, there are a lot of women who are taller than a lot of men.

This how the population looks like:

Image

As you, there are some woman who are taller than some men in that sample, couples do not really look like that in real life though.


This how couples almost always look like in reality:

Image

Noticed the difference?

who is picking whom though? you are putting the power in the hands of women, and they may not be the ones deciding - it could be an equal choice between men and women, or it could be that men do not approach taller women.

the picture does not represent reality as it does not account for the bell curve - the majority of men are taller than the majority of women, and the chart makes it appear that there are equal numbers of very tall women and very short men.

this explains the phenomenon that happened to me and that happens to many women - even though i am less that 2 inches shorter than the average woman, i have never even met a man shorter than me who i could have dated. when i was dating, in my dateable pool (i.e. not related to me, an adult, younger than 75) there were no men shorter than me. even at my workplace with 100 men, not a single one is shorter than me, and i am not much shorter than the average girl.


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19 Jun 2011, 12:08 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
zen_mistress wrote:
To be honest, MCalvera, most women would be happy with a guy who does not mess them around, is a decent person and has traits that match/complement theirs. Things like height and wealth are not as high priorities when it comes to happiness and this is true for many women I know.


I know it's not intentional, but you are being a bit misleading.

Height is a big priority among women. He doesn't have to be tall, but he still has to be taller ... unless the girl is of the unusual type who doesn't care if the guy is shorter than her or she sees very high status in that man despite his height.

most men are taller than most women. the average woman would have difficulty finding a shorter man


It's not like all men are taller than all women, there are a lot of women who are taller than a lot of men.

This how the population looks like:

Image

As you, there are some woman who are taller than some men in that sample, couples do not really look like that in real life though.


This how couples almost always look like in reality:

Image

Noticed the difference?

who is picking whom though? you are putting the power in the hands of women, and they may not be the ones deciding - it could be an equal choice between men and women, or it could be that men do not approach taller women.

the picture does not represent reality as it does not account for the bell curve - the majority of men are taller than the majority of women, and the chart makes it appear that there are equal numbers of very tall women and very short men.

this explains the phenomenon that happened to me and that happens to many women - even though i am less that 2 inches shorter than the average woman, i have never even met a man shorter than me who i could have dated. when i was dating, in my dateable pool (i.e. not related to me, an adult, younger than 75) there were no men shorter than me. even at my workplace with 100 men, not a single one is shorter than me, and i am not much shorter than the average girl.



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you are putting the power in the hands of women, and they may not be the ones deciding


I didn't say anything about who is picking whom, that's not the point, I am just showing how couples in real life look like and it can't be just a mere coincidence.



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19 Jun 2011, 12:15 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
metaphysics wrote:
Umm..

"Almost always..."

I am so curious where did you get the stastics from :P

But I think I would agree your opinion from my particular cases.


Easy, observe couples around, in malls, in events, in public garden, in concerts, taller_woman_with_a_shorter_man couples are very rare.


OK, sociologist. I absolutely agree this opinion of yours.

Let us talk more general things in this thread..

I do not think height is a very important factor. "sexual attraction" as somebody mentioned, can be very specific and can vary to numerous points. Therefore, let us talk more generally, instead of "height" all the time since yesterday.



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19 Jun 2011, 12:28 pm

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I didn't say anything about who is picking whom, that's not the point, I am just showing how couples in real life look like and it can't be just a mere coincidence.

fair enough, but i think it is largely due to availability. and also people do not seem to want to look "different" or unusual when they are in a couple. i think couples want to look like a cohesive unit, and want to look similar to other couples. (which is frankly ridiculous to me, but it seems like they may feel that way)


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this explains the phenomenon that happened to me and that happens to many women - even though i am less that 2 inches shorter than the average woman, i have never even met a man shorter than me who i could have dated. when i was dating, in my dateable pool (i.e. not related to me, an adult, younger than 75) there were no men shorter than me. even at my workplace with 100 men, not a single one is shorter than me, and i am not much shorter than the average girl.


and your personal experience might be different that mine.

While you never met a guy who's shorter than you (maybe they are invisible to your brain lol), I met a lot of women who are taller than me.

At workplace for instance, 3 out of 6 women of my age range are naturally taller than me. With heels, it's like 4 out of 6.

On okcupid, I see plenty of local women who are taller than 160 cm.



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19 Jun 2011, 12:32 pm

Why we cannot talk about more effective factors than height?



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19 Jun 2011, 12:34 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
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I didn't say anything about who is picking whom, that's not the point, I am just showing how couples in real life look like and it can't be just a mere coincidence.

fair enough, but i think it is largely due to availability. and also people do not seem to want to look "different" or unusual when they are in a couple. i think couples want to look like a cohesive unit, and want to look similar to other couples. (which is frankly ridiculous to me, but it seems like they may feel that way)


Well, this can be true for other things, like wealth and age. Height is just the beginning....



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this explains the phenomenon that happened to me and that happens to many women - even though i am less that 2 inches shorter than the average woman, i have never even met a man shorter than me who i could have dated. when i was dating, in my dateable pool (i.e. not related to me, an adult, younger than 75) there were no men shorter than me. even at my workplace with 100 men, not a single one is shorter than me, and i am not much shorter than the average girl.


and your personal experience might be different that mine.

While you never met a guy who's shorter than you (maybe they are invisible to your brain lol), I met a lot of women who are taller than me.

At workplace for instance, 3 out of 6 women of my age range are naturally taller with me. With heels, it's like 4 out of 6.

On okcupid, I see plenty of local women who are more than 160 cm.

yeah, the shortest man i dated was 162 cm (he was the shortest man i knew).


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