Nice guys REALLY DO finish last.

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JennaMarbles got it so right with that one

but the people who need to hear it are never going too as they're too busy yelling "lalala too nice I'm so nice why don't b*tches want to touch my weiner lalala"

too bad, they're really only hurting their own chances

You are too young to be that angry because relationships. At your age I was a loner too but I wasn't that angry. What's the problem with people on their early twenties nowadays?

You have a lot of future yet. I say it to you because I have discussed this with you before.

Excellent point, but nice guys and bad boys have one thing in common: They don't like somebody else's leftovers.

From what I've seen, "bad boys" are going to pursue women more aggressively, more competitively. Even if a girl is already in a committed relationship with a nice guy (or even a bad boy), that doesn't mean another guy HAS to do the right thing and respect boundaries. We tend to lump all men together as the dogs in relationships, but it's not like women don't cheat on their SO's all the time, either.

So what's a nice guy to do when another dog comes sniffing around? Beat the sh!t out of him? No, because that makes you an aggressive jerk. Do nothing? The bad boy steals the girl anyway. Wait around to see if she eventually comes to her senses and takes the nice guy back? First of all, ew. Second, I for one don't like the idea of taking a girl back and knowing she COULD be making comparisons, not to mention the insecurity that comes with a second-chance/second-hand relationship, i.e. it's a trust issue.

I think of myself as a nice guy and I've dated all sorts of girls. 4 of those were virgins, one of those was my first, another was a sweet girl I made a project of thoroughly corrupting. I eventually got married to a girl who'd come out of a horrible relationship with a "bad boy" type, and we dated off and on through college. There were others in between times, but we remained close and decided we should spend our lives together. In the case of her first college bf, sure, the bad boy finished first. Lucky for me, though, he just really sucked at it. And I think it just made it all the worse for him that this "nice guy" stole his prized possession of a fine woman. Sent him into a RAGE actually and landed him in jail.

Finishing first is fine and all, but depending on the mess you leave behind, it may not really be the victory it's cracked up to be.

There are more women than you think that are having no success with dating. The difference is they're not moaning and moping about it.

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lol, No.

Lol, lol and lol. You are only 21, don't try to boast as if you had been on this planet 50 years.

no. but when one looks around at other 21 year olds, they have had relationships. Hell, I was 1 year old when my parents where my age. Its quite obvious by how ive been treated by women what is wanted out of me. And its not something im going to bend over for.

Exactly. In high school, I went to three dances, with different guys. Two of them were Sadie Hawkins style, and those guys went because they were my friends or no one else asked them. One was prom, and he went, because his best friend went with my friend, after she ditched the girls for a stagg girl night. Then he ended up dating my best friend, and she lied about it, so that broke up the friendship when I found out. I had three "boyfriends" I saw all of twice, because they were also friends of my guys my friends were dating. I got into college, and my future husband was likewise a mutual friend situation. I was 19. Did it ruin my life? No. Heck, we were engaged for four months before we did more than kiss. It just wasn't that important. I had other goals. After we split, I was in a relationship with a guy for ten years. His personal issues ruined that, and our friendship. So I've been single for almost three years. In that time, I've been out on four dates. I'm 36. Has it ruined my life? No. Being single won't ruin the lives of the 19 and 20 year olds here either, and that's what personal diaries and the WP blogs are for.

this topic, debate has been beaten to death so many times

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There's women that have no success dating the guys they'd like to date. There's men that have no success dating any woman at all.

agreed, it's easy for women to get a boyfriend it's just hard for them to get the "right kind" of boyfriend, thats usually how women complain, or that is a womans perspective when they feel they have a hard time, but if a man is feeling like he has a hard time, he can't attract or get any woman at all

And here comes the shocking part... Wait for it...:

The very same can be said about boys.

Theres a male member that has had no success online dating, one of his main complaints isnt not being contacted by girls or anything like that, its being contacted by girls that he feels superior to.
Lets face it we all do it and theres no point pretending that you are perfect and women need to grow up

i find women woan and mope enough about men and dating in general. this superioristic attitude is just silly to even think of. Its a site which has a higher number of males aged 16-25 than any other bracket. of course you're going to have the LnD section blow up with threads of guys moaning. Since the majority of members are be guys in prime dating age.

No wonder plenty of men end up hating women due to their bad experiences. Guys are sick of being flaked/having their time wasted or used by selfish females who only care about boosting their own egos. Feminist/communist equal rights nonsense has created a lot more problems within society than it has solved.

Nobody gets an ego boost from getting a message from a stranger.

However a lot of people of both genders that end up online have extremely high value of themselves(which is why they have been unable to find something offline)

That my friends its the problem with online dating. People sign up with huge expectations and ignore those that are "below" them(please refer to my post above about how a male member is doing the same thing while he complains about females for doing it).