The UCSB shooter--an Aspie with a rant against women

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25 May 2014, 7:41 pm

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I think maybe you've got some dramatic ideas about what date rape is, Boo. It's just a form of "I'm allowed." Just like, decades ago, it used to be totally fine to slap dat ass walking by in the office. A perk, right? I'm allowed. And my dick is so practically inside her anyway, now that I've given her that finger she didn't know she wanted, and I want to; I'm allowed. Cause if she didn't want it, why'd she wear that? Come out with me? Say hello? Look at me? And, at bottom, there's this idea about getting away with it, because it's yours by right, no? Allowed.

It's just a matter of not actually noticing that the other person is a person, for a convenient span of time.


IMO that is hardly a sane thing to do, rape is rape regardless if the rapist thinks it is not.


that may be your opinion (that any man that rapes can't be sane), but we're trying to tell you your opinion is not supported by observation and research, or by the laws regarding sexual assault.



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25 May 2014, 7:42 pm

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I think maybe you've got some dramatic ideas about what date rape is, Boo. It's just a form of "I'm allowed." Just like, decades ago, it used to be totally fine to slap dat ass walking by in the office. A perk, right? I'm allowed. And my dick is so practically inside her anyway, now that I've given her that finger she didn't know she wanted, and I want to; I'm allowed. Cause if she didn't want it, why'd she wear that? Come out with me? Say hello? Look at me? And, at bottom, there's this idea about getting away with it, because it's yours by right, no? Allowed.

It's just a matter of not actually noticing that the other person is a person, for a convenient span of time.


IMO that is hardly a sane thing to do, rape is rape regardless if the rapist thinks it is not.
The thing is rapists dont give a s**t about victims all he or she gives a s**t about is powers and satisfying his or her lust by violating his or her bodies and not giving a s**t! Its total BS If it was up to me the punishment for rapists would be death! Im sorry i come off harsh but im rather furious when it comes to rapists!


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25 May 2014, 7:55 pm

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These guys just feel utterly powerless through frequent rejections over a long period of time, as males we tend to be the ones burdened with risking rejections, which can make some of us mentally volatile if those rejections are consistent over a long period of time, it's just a matter of time before the frustration expresses itself in one form or another.

But it's really their powerlessness that they feel, and so in their powerlessness they commit the ultimate act of power -- taking a life.

Really wish that they would just kill themselves though, becoming a monster is infinitely worse than death, and it's not like you feel lonely after your blow your brains out anyways.


yeah but apparently nobody told/taught him that he's not entitled to any given female. The problem here is his rant comes off as a sort of "male entitlement" to (possession of) women. It's scary that he didn't get taught boundaries.



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25 May 2014, 8:06 pm

No woman is no mans property and no man is no womans property! No means NO it does not mean yes it means back the f*ck off! Do not continue for your lust for power or your hornyness we are human beings and not property! You continue you are a monster you revoked your title as a human being be it male or female your a rapist a monster and a demon!


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25 May 2014, 8:07 pm

I just wanted to say how deeply sorry I am for victims of rape, male or female.

You guys are my inspiration. Thank you for sharing your stories.


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25 May 2014, 8:08 pm

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yeah but apparently nobody told/taught him that he's not entitled to any given female. The problem here is his rant comes off as a sort of "male entitlement" to (possession of) women. It's scary that he didn't get taught boundaries.


That's one of my issues too this mindset comes up all too often as a reason for murder, Maren Sanchez's murder being one of the latest in a rash of violent crimes where this possessive attitude is prevalent. It is ludicrous to most of us to sit here and think that people are of this belief but it is getting worse.



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25 May 2014, 8:17 pm

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I just wanted to say how deeply sorry I am for victims of rape, male or female.

You guys are my inspiration. Thank you for sharing your stories.
Thank you *hugs* even though me and possibly the other party dont get along due to recent clashes and such we do thank you! you are a good person with a kind heart I wish more had a kind heart for sure the world needs it! If everyone was kind wasn't hostile or controlling there would be no rapes! Reality sucks though so I stay at home most the time not trusting most people unless im at work having to interact at once!


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25 May 2014, 8:22 pm

Am I the only guy here who didn't read a thing about this guy being diagnosed with Autism?


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25 May 2014, 8:35 pm

I'm not a guy but I didn't see anything either, except on WP. Though I anticipate that I will, before tomorrow, in the media.



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25 May 2014, 8:49 pm

I saw it on Reddit, mostly as an aside to the more intense misogynist slant, and when it was mentioned there were people drawing parallels between this and Newton, CT. More still however, there were people defending Aspies which made me happy.



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25 May 2014, 9:45 pm

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I saw it on Reddit, mostly as an aside to the more intense misogynist slant, and when it was mentioned there were people drawing parallels between this and Newton, CT. More still however, there were people defending Aspies which made me happy.
Thats good to know the question being asked to me by an NT "did you shoot up any schools lately" still gets to me and hurts me and offends me. Its total BS! People actually believe this though!


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25 May 2014, 9:54 pm

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We're at Brownmiller again. I like her memoir very much. I don't agree that all men are rapists and potential rapists.


Yep most rapists are sociopaths although feminists usually like to pretend they're NT. Probably as a convenient way to diss on men in general. :roll:


the man who raped me was not a sociopath.


Oh my :( I am sorry.



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25 May 2014, 9:56 pm

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starvingartist wrote:
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We're at Brownmiller again. I like her memoir very much. I don't agree that all men are rapists and potential rapists.


Yep most rapists are sociopaths although feminists usually like to pretend they're NT. Probably as a convenient way to diss on men in general. :roll:


the man who raped me was not a sociopath.


Neither was the one who raped me. Just a nice entitled boy.


Oh man I'm sorry :(



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25 May 2014, 10:00 pm

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I woke up once with a woman, lets just say, interfering with me. That was in August 2005 and it's driven me stark raving mad since, as can still be seen today (and tomorrow and so on). Still don't know why she did it, we were never in a relationship but I have never felt so intuitively close to any one before nor since, male or female. But I don't hate or resent women, in fact there are a fair few whom I rather much admire to put mildly. I have misogynistic moments but I like to feel they are firmly balanced out with my misandry, but most of it is tongue in cheek, a humourers nod to the absurd and recognition of the strange hypocrisies that are dotted around in the whole of society. As a man I sometimes wish I could shrug it off, and with machismo boisterously state that I can get laid in my sleep. But no, good grief no, thank the lord I can't. Anyway just putting that out there.


See above. No better if a woman does it.
My abusive ex used to force me to have sex with her even though I was not in the mood and said no, she would threaten to tell neighbors I beat her if i failed to cooperate. Im not sure if its rape or abuse or manipulation to get me to do what she wanted.Im not sure if we all should continue discuss rape because its a rather touchy subject and im trying not to let it trigger my flashbacks right now i do have sympathy for others who were possibly raped and would not want them to have a flash back either because flashbacks aren't fun at all. Just the thing is rape is not fun for anybody and does a lot of psychological damage and can contribute to PTSD! When someone says no you stop you dont continue I dont give a sh** how horny you are you just dont that person is that persons own property not yours! Be it man or woman its total BS! Rape is just as bad as murder if not worse in my book because those traumatizing memories last for the rest of your life! Do I hate women due to my past experience? NO! although I have issues of trusting them and sometimes am afraid of them but i know there are good women out there as well not all women are evil psychos and im trying to learn to break that thought althogether I have been rather bitter towards women at times and have come off as misogynistic and I do apologize for that I do have some female friends so I am starting to trust them again but this time with caution, I know my mother is a good person and the recent news woke me up from my ignorance and immaturity towards a lot of females aiming for womens rights out of bad experiences with women. i now realize why there are women so bitter towards men because maybe they had bad experiences like I have I sometimes wish i could comfort those women but then realize that a man is the last thing they would want to see and I can relate to that I sometimes get in that mood too when it comes to women wanting to comfort me and I push them away, its unhealthy but im trying to work on that.


Wow sorry dude :(



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25 May 2014, 10:06 pm

I'm a bit disconcerted that while there are a number of posters who are absolutely terrified that this guy's crime and AS diagnosis are going to lead to stereotypes and persecution, there's a whole other group of posters positively gleefully pointing out any similarities they can find between this guy and posters on this board in order to push an agenda.


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25 May 2014, 10:12 pm

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I'm a bit disconcerted that while there are a number of posters who are absolutely terrified that this guy's crime and AS diagnosis are going to lead to stereotypes and persecution, there's a whole other group of posters positively gleefully pointing out any similarities they can find between this guy and posters on this board in order to push an agenda.


I'm a bit disconcerted you can't see it.