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The fact that women check who is attacking them and that it makes a difference, is because there are abusive males out there who like to hate women, stalk them and other kinds of predators who focus on women. If you aren't black, you don't understand the poisonous motivation that some racists have against blacks. If you aren't an attractive woman, you can't see how many people around you have a hidden side of woman-hating and woman-bashing.

To me, your ongoing (thread-long) attempts to belittle and marginalize my feelings of marginalization sound like those white guys who like to tell black people that racism is not really a problem anymore. Those guys only speak for themselves. They don't speak for the 1 in 20 or 1 in 50 people who will do nasty things to black people when no one else is looking. The fact that you, as a young male, don't get what I'm saying, only means that you have no experience with it. IT is always belittling and marginalizing to take the statement of someone from a discriminated-against class and tell them that you know better than they how to judge their opinions about their status, based on experience that you cannot possess, not being of that class.

The fact that you have a hobby or special interest in arguing against feminists and feminism and are called sexist by those women, reflects your personal issue may be influencing your debating behavior. I would never want to gain a rep for going around arguing with blacks how they don't have the experiences they claim to have or that they are deluded to feel that they have experienced racism just because a while male doesn't see it happening. (1) I wouldn't know because I'm not black and the people who would be acting out against them would not be motivated to show that behavior toward me, and (2) since I'm not able to be affected by racism directly, the only opinions I could have on the subject are those that are based on my own racism.

I'm surprised that you don't see how women might form the opinion that your arguing in these threads against the experiences and opinions of women in subject areas about their own experiences and opinions, is not sexist or motivated by gender bias.



If I am much worse than any NT you have known, you are very lucky, then.



A lot of people in my demographic have said they love my posts. Doesn't it occur to you that what is not appealing or true to your and your group may be appealing and true to those outside of your world view?

It is one thing to have a world view based on your own experience and perspective in life. But you seem to think in the posts on this thread that your having a clear vision on women's issues based on your own world view means that you can impose that on others who have a completely different experience base. I.e. you don't seem to have any sense that there is a limitation to how valid your opinions and world views can be, when applied to women who have completely different world experiences and makeup than you.

You and others keep talking about the sexism thing going with your profile history as being some kind of joke or lark with you. Is it? It didn't seem that way the way you came after me and have persisted in this thread.



I only looked at your profile because something about the way you came at me triggered my interest. I didn't look up the profiles of anyone else on this thread. Just you.

No, after reviewing your posts about women's issues some more I don't get the idea that you are a predator. But I do think that there is something there, some issue of discomfort with women stating their opinions, or some notion that your opinions on women's experience and issues are more valid than theirs, to the point of having a belief that your opinions about them should outweigh theirs.

The OP post obviously said things that were offensive and I have updated the OP post to reflect that I am aware that it was offensive in places.

Or as one of my professors in math told me (yes I am referencing math, I am sorry it applies)... It doesn't matter if you are crazy, gay, straight, white, black, man, woman, or alien... your ideas should stand alone.

though that doesn't seem to happen much in today's society. We seem to dismiss ideas based on irrelevant facts about the person offering the ideas. Instead of evaluating the ideas, we evaluate the person.

It's a nice thought but a naive one. Women are not on level terms with men in most academic disciplines, especially I would think a male-dominated one such as mathematics. That's not to say that sexism is the cause of male dominance in mathematics, I'm sure it's not, but it still poses problems for aspiring or current female mathematicians.

That's how it's always been. When people have second thoughts about their own judgments of others, such as "am I thinking this because of the colour of his skin", that's good. It's when unfair prejudices are silent and acceptable that they are truly dangerous. All the more reason why "feminism" shouldn't be a dirty word and people should still look out for signs of sexual prejudice, even in the United States.

Hate to say it bro but you just proved her point

By making a personal attack on her.

Although we are offended we can not allow ourselves to sink to another persons level.

In fact I personally feel it is by keeping ourselves morally strait (thank you boy scouts) we instead make the other person raise to our level of maturity.

However I used to be more hot headed like you, growing up has allowed me space to step back and annalyze myself and grow accordingly. Still (acording to Miss E) I am only 22 and not "old" enough to make any point worth reading ... even if I am considered an Adult by the entire world and have lost my virginity several times over in my last two relationships

A similar thing was done with a female who had made great strides in the beginning film industry most of these accomplishments are given to a male. I forgot the name though.

It's a nice thought but a naive one. Women are not on level terms with men in most academic disciplines, especially I would think a male-dominated one such as mathematics. That's not to say that sexism is the cause of male dominance in mathematics, I'm sure it's not, but it still poses problems for aspiring or current female mathematicians.

That's how it's always been. When people have second thoughts about their own judgments of others, such as "am I thinking this because of the colour of his skin", that's good. It's when unfair prejudices are silent and acceptable that they are truly dangerous. All the more reason why "feminism" shouldn't be a dirty word and people should still look out for signs of sexual prejudice, even in the United States.

In my book, all personal attacks are pointless. But that is just me and I am just one person who has an opinion that many respect and others dispise so do whatever you wish. If I were you I would edit the responce and appologize for the insult on character, but liek I said before...that is just me

An attack can come in many forms and sometimes attacks are unintentional. Make note of that. Sometimes what ou may say is viewed as an affront to another. It is best to soften what you say, in form of apology or some similar tool, to make what you say more palatable to the reader. Communication is a two-way road and when you intend not to attack, you may not always come across that way and must be prepared for that.

An attack can come in many forms and sometimes attacks are unintentional. Make note of that. Sometimes what ou may say is viewed as an affront to another. It is best to soften what you say, in form of apology or some similar tool, to make what you say more palatable to the reader. Communication is a two-way road and when you intend not to attack, you may not always come across that way and must be prepared for that.

on the other hand. You cannot control other people and how they react. So says my social communication therapist. You can change yourself only up to a certain point. You cannot change other people, nor should you try. You have to separate what is under your control and what is not. And I do not think you should lose yourself completely trying to please other people, or soften your message so much that it loses its meaning just to make people feel better. You just need to do so with tact.

Under some circumstances people will be upset by a message no matter how it is said. But you should still compromise.

It is not a matter of changing yourself, but being able to adapt to whenever someone responds to what you post as if it were an affront. The way to react to that is to not treat such response as an affront itself and apologise.

THANKS!! !! !

I think there is mainly discomfort w/my views & lack of understanding for adult female analysis, not real malice.

The young guys who attack me seem very smart & sensitive.

It's that I'm on the "Wrong Planet" & don't fit in. As usual.

expect hostility from young men. we draw it like ants to sugar. don't ask me why. i would like to think that it's more than ignorance and insecurity on their part; that i just don't understand their point of view, and if i did i would be more forgiving of the behavior..... but sadly i have lost so much faith in the young male demographic that i don't think i could say that honestly anymore. most of them are ignorant and dangerously insecure. young, ignorant, insecure men=hostility and danger to intelligent, confident women. i have been targeted for this more times in my life than i care to think about. i have even been assaulted for it. it goes with the territory. you either learn to ignore it and carry on, or you learn how to shut up.

If you bug Alex enough, I'm sure he might give us an extra 'academia' forum, with some extra-stringent rules to deal with 'immaturity'. Basically, sit there discussing theoretical stuff all day, of the nature it seems you're looking for. It would work well I think, if it could get off the ground.