'The Undateables' - UK TV series

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The other point to it as well, and I don't think anyone's covered this is that saying that it's wrong to point out his faults could be excusing behaviour that he might well be able to fix.

After all, he's put himself right up out there on national TV, so if he's reading this forum (and others) he should be able to take the flak.

I didn't create this thread for people to take cheap pot shots at other people on the autistic spectrum

He wouldn't even be on the programme if he was good at dating so imo the comment itself is 'clueless'
it's like saying 'Oh God look at that blind person bumping into things - how stupid of him!'

I find the people who are the most judgemental of others need to take a good look at themselves!

I'd like to watch the person who made the comment on a date and pick fault with him - I bet he'd be no less 'clueless'

I just have exceedingly low tolerance of this commenter's personality type

Also, aren't we meant to be being more POSITIVE?

I'd hate to think this commenter's post drove some poor sensitive aspie away with the negative tone he's taken

Well, he wouldn't be on the programme at all if he didn't want some kind of media attention. So, to be honest with you, I suggest that is sort of a moot point. You may well disagree. But with 'fame' must come the wherewithal to be able to deal with criticism, and perhaps sometimes in a combative or even in a plain abusive format (which is very unfortunate for the recipient, but that is life).



No, it's not, love. It really isn't. The problem with autism is that we each have intricately different abilities, disabilities, capacities to listen and capacities for mental blindness. We're all massively different - and in some cases outright difficult! - people. It's not as simple as saying that he's autistic, so he may do a), b) or c). To be perfectly honest with you, that person should expect criticism and guidance if he's on national TV though, and we on WP will likely be an awful lot more polite and less abusive than some of the other trolls he may find on the bowels of the Internet.



The problem is that he'd probably a lot less likely to listen if you were right there and 'insulting' him. If you did a critique through a non-direct medium (like this forum) then you may - although it's not likely - be able to get through to him a little more.

I think you miss my point in wanting to critique the commenter - I would want him to experience what it's like to be called 'clueless' - I certainly wouldn't want to help him! Where I did the critique is irrelevant, the aim would be to take him down a peg or two by showing him how demoralising it would be to have some smart arse online saying 'Oh he's clueless, that girl evidently can't f-king stand him and I don't blame her either!' See how he'd like that! (And I just bet that's a familiar scenario for him too!)

I don't want to 'get through' to people like him, I just want them to be polite and constructive in their comments or go away!

No, it was more like a blind person on television: "I have seen 17 alive dragons" - and someone pointing out that maybe that's not entirely true even though that person probably thinks so.

No it's not

People with ASDs have trouble with social interaction so to criticise a person with HFA/Aspergers for being bad at social interaction is pointless and cruel in my opinion

I would agree if it was blunt criticism for the sake of it, but it was an explanation for why someone who says he has had 17 girlfriends is on a program called the undateables. Because that does not make a lot of sense now does it?

And I think he had autism not HFA/Aspergers?

Yes he had some form of autism and I'd say it was High Functioning Autism

The whole programme lacks logic - the title is meant to refer to society's attitude to people with disabilities ie that they are 'undateable' - it is a comment on society's inherent prejudice against people who aren't 'normal' enough

Anyone with half an ounce of sense would see his 17 girlfriends as probably not long term ones - a person unable to make connections with other people very well could quite easily have a lot of failed attempts

Yes, see I called the commenter 'clueless' there - nothing to be offended about though, by his own argument!

So the person in the programme was to be congratulated for at least trying rather than giving up

Why do people insist on making me prove my superior intellect time and TIME AGAIN on here!

It gets SO TEDIOUS!

What can I say? She was clueless about my motives then.

You got it spot on.



Doesn't look like classical autism to me to be frank.

No I agree, but that does not mean it has to be Asperger's or HFA. What about PDD-NOS? (I was in a fighting spirit )

Does it matter now you've assigned him to the 'clueless' category?

sticks hand up, I would like to see

Did anyone watch last night's episode? When we were first introduced to Heather, they told us she had OCD. But, I saw in the programme description that she had OCD and also Aspergers, which is why I'd tuned in. Eventually, we were told she had Aspergers too and that it affected her by not being able to look people in the eye. They said nothing else about how her Aspergers affected her and how it might impact on relationships. I thought it was odd for them not to go into some sort of detail about it. Maybe it's because she had such severe OCD that her Aspergers faded into insignificance. But, I find that hard to get my head round it not being an issue, for the purpose of getting a date (which is what the programme is about afterall). She told both the woman from the dating agency and the guy she was on a date with that she had difficulty looking people in the eye, drawing attention to it, but no mention of the Aspergers being the cause. I don't like how I'm feeling about this one, but her eye contact issue looked either completely fake or exaggerated, as if she was somehow trying to prove she had Aspergers. The OCD was an obvious problem and was the thing holding her back from forming relationships. But, as for the Aspergers, was this supposed to be a problem for her? It truly did seem to be just about the eye contact and I've got my doubts about that, or maybe some details of her issues were lost in the edit. The guy seemed to like her anyway, but I think he was very curious about her and maybe wanted to study her.

I can't find anywhere where the newest episode is, so to keep people interested, I'm uploading Series 1, Episode 2.

OK then, here's Series 1, Episode 2. Note that neither of the two episodes I'm going to upload feature autistic people.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsQTTa1eJNM[/youtube]Should come online shortly.

Usual thing about proxies for British Islands and Republic of Ireland viewers apply.

Thanks for this