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19 Aug 2014, 10:44 am

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Everyone is different, indeed and everyone has a different personal journey to walk but sometimes we exaggerate what we can't do or what we aren't capable of and that negative self-talk creates a wall, a barrier that stops us from challenging ourselves and achieving what we really want or what would make us feel more confident in our lives. It's about being able to say to yourself that you really want to do this instead letting the negative self talk build up inside and that's something that takes courage but you have to find it.


I have an autoimmune disease, and adrenal fatigue is one of the persistent side effects, even though the disease is under control. People with adrenal fatigue should NOT do strenuous exercise such as weight lifting and body building and intense cardio exercise. Until I knew about my autoimmune disease, every time I'd sign up for a gym membership, I'd go 6-8 times and then become desperately ill. Like, miss a week (or more) of work ill. For many years, I just assumed that I was picking up some weird virus at the gym, so then I got germophobic - took a container of disinfecting wipes with me and literally wiped every square cm of anything I might have to touch in the facility, including doorknobs, towel hooks, benches, not to mention the equipment I used.

As it turned out, the strenuous workout (which really wasn't very strenuous - 30 minutes on a treadmill or elliptical at one of the lower settings, and a round of the machines, either upper body or lower body but not both in the same day) was bumping up my immune system to attack my own body. So, for me (and for countless others - about 8% of the population have autoimmune diseases), working out like that is simply NOT an option.

I can still, however, keep fit by being active at a much lower level, such as walking, swimming, and yoga. I don't expect to ever be buff with six-pack abs and huge muscles, but I do what I can to keep from turning into a couch potato.

My point being, not everyone can go to the gym, take steroids, and become the next Arnold Schwartzenegger because it would literally kill them. However, anyone who is able to walk around should be able to start getting more fit by walking around a little more to begin with, and build from there.



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19 Aug 2014, 11:05 am

I am 163 cm in height, 60 kg in weight; but my family has a history of diabetes type 1, 2, ulcerative colitis, obesity after 40 (mother's side) so I get paranoid to not succumb in a lifestyle that may trigger any of this.
Here traditionally they eat pita bread with almost everything but I've stopped eating bread with everything: I've stopped eating bread with any dish that has rice or potatoes, burghul or any amidon component. I would only eat bread only if it's a sandwich or something that cannot be eaten without (ie. pasty food like raw yogurt or fava beans, hommos), I've also limited my processed sugar intake, much less commercial chocolate, more dark raw chocolate, more fruit.



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19 Aug 2014, 11:10 am

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I am going to slim down so that I will look even more like Jessica Alba. How long will it take me too lose 12 kilograms if I burn 500 calories more than I take in every day?

http://www.caloriesecrets.net/how-many- ... se-weight/



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19 Aug 2014, 11:25 am

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Btw, I ll start a new job by the mid of September, good pay and a potential growing career as it won't be limited to Lebanon :D


Congrats!!



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19 Aug 2014, 11:57 am

If you want to do some aerobic exercise without leaving the room, try jumping as high as you can from a squatting position a few times. You will feel like you sprinted for a few minutes.



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19 Aug 2014, 11:58 am

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Btw, I ll start a new job by the mid of September, good pay and a potential growing career as it won't be limited to Lebanon :D


Congrats!!


Yes, congrats! :)



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19 Aug 2014, 12:08 pm

Congrats, Boo!!



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19 Aug 2014, 12:34 pm

Congratulations, Boo.



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19 Aug 2014, 11:16 pm

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Well, then stick to diet, running and push ups; till you find a job.


I'll keep to pushups and crunchs and diet. Can't do running or walking. as for a job i'll likel be in worse money shape with a job then I am now.


Why can't you do running or walking at least? Floor is available everywhere.

Run sly run!


anxiety. I get afraid and embarrassed then I feel scared inside and sick. just thinking about going out does it. like right now.

i could probably do it with a buddy. I use to walk almost every night with my friends but they are all gone now.

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Btw, I ll start a new job by the mid of September, good pay and a potential growing career as it won't be limited to Lebanon :D


where at, what kind of job :)



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19 Aug 2014, 11:24 pm

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sly, put the chest on the bed while you're working out. Or use the chest as workout gear. You can do chair dips on it (look it up)....

wait a minute, you're making min wage while living at home. If you're paying any rent, tell them you need to spend money on a gym membership and get into better health, and are going to do this now, and this may reduce your contribution by $25/mo. This is, like, two pizzas. They'll deal.


its a heavy big handcrafted(buy me) ceder chest. then i also have it full of s**t. don't the suffaces have to be even hight? the chest is 4" or so higher then my bed.

my mom controlls my money and I finnally got her to pay 100 of it for insurance and phone bill. it is highly impossible she would be ok with taking more money. the min wage(slightly higher like 10 cents) job is only 32 hours every 3 months. the I pay half of the rent for the house. well half of what we pay after housing helps. I don't know the budget as she gets mad when I ask about it.

so I'm stuck with the 40-80 I make every 3 months. they see the gym as some weird sudden obsession. Its something I've looked into for months now. but they don't remember stuff that far back I guess. that and I stay away from them as much as I can.

seems It just won't happen much like alot of stuff in my life. perhaps if 24 hour fitness goes thru with opening one out here I'll readdress it. I called my insurance to ask and they said I just have standard medicare despite my card saying plus/dual meaning I get both medicaid and medicare which is what the snp dual plan says is for on their sight. she also said its standard medicare not through a provider, but then they are a provider, so why do I get a card from them and why does the gov pay them o.O

i was on the state plan i think then moved to them(trilluim) I don't understand insurance.



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19 Aug 2014, 11:45 pm

okay. So if you have a representative payee, which I assume is your mom, that payee has to use your funds for, among other things, your medical and dental care. This is a health expense. If you really think that you will actually use the gym membership if you have it, then I'd recommend you go to your doc, explain the situation and how you're trying to take care of fitness and the gym makes it much easier to do, and will he write a note saying that he recommends the purchase of a gym membership for your health and wellness. Then show it to your mom.

If you aren't really going to use the membership once you have it -- like if you figure you'll get nervous and not go, or will lack motivation -- then it's probably not worthwhile, you'll just be wasting scarce money. But it's well worth it if you actually use it.

Many gyms have free trials and (especially in summer) periods when they waive the joining fee. If the gyms will allow you a trial, take advantage, check it out, see how you feel there.



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19 Aug 2014, 11:47 pm

Another thing you could do is listen to music when you're on a long walk or run, and that'll take your mind off being alone.



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20 Aug 2014, 3:49 am

sly279 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
sly279 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Well, then stick to diet, running and push ups; till you find a job.


I'll keep to pushups and crunchs and diet. Can't do running or walking. as for a job i'll likel be in worse money shape with a job then I am now.


Why can't you do running or walking at least? Floor is available everywhere.

Run sly run!


anxiety. I get afraid and embarrassed then I feel scared inside and sick. just thinking about going out does it. like right now.

i could probably do it with a buddy. I use to walk almost every night with my friends but they are all gone now.

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Btw, I ll start a new job by the mid of September, good pay and a potential growing career as it won't be limited to Lebanon :D


where at, what kind of job :)


sly279 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
sly279 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Well, then stick to diet, running and push ups; till you find a job.


I'll keep to pushups and crunchs and diet. Can't do running or walking. as for a job i'll likel be in worse money shape with a job then I am now.


Why can't you do running or walking at least? Floor is available everywhere.

Run sly run!


anxiety. I get afraid and embarrassed then I feel scared inside and sick. just thinking about going out does it. like right now.

i could probably do it with a buddy. I use to walk almost every night with my friends but they are all gone now.

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Btw, I ll start a new job by the mid of September, good pay and a potential growing career as it won't be limited to Lebanon :D


where at, what kind of job :)


In this field: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_sup ... in_finance the platform is one of the mentioned there.
I'll be the business analyst of the whole thing: running the system, technical support for all parties, training new users (new buyers, suppliers, bank staff); also the main administrator of the related CRM, the work also requires very deep financial knowledge. I am business admin graduate with a master's in MIS and experience in market study, CRM and retail banking.
I am in the learning/courses phase myself now.


I am so excited for this job, almost horny...ohh ohh....damn, my screen.




Nah; kidding about the horny part.



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20 Aug 2014, 6:09 am

A number of woman said that mothers raising young children (some of whom may also work) have zero free time. I know nothing of parenting and I have no reason to doubt that it's extremely time consuming but if you would indulge my curiosity, doesn't running after young children itself constitute an exercise? And don't other activities associated with parenting involve physical exertion?

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1. 40-hour workweeks went away decades ago in the US. You'll find most of us working on laptops at home, too, after hours, because we like keeping our jobs.

Really? I was under the impression that Americans were like Europeans, in which case they'd spend four hours everyday in front of the TV or watching Netflix series


Plenty of people I know still work only 40 hours a week but on the other hand just because something is commonplace that doesn't make it universal. There are some jobs that get into the triple digits of hours. Would you still expect them to work out? Probably not. Would you expect the 40 hour worker to work out? Probably. There are a lot different job types and even if 75% of workers work no more than 40 hours per week, that doesn't mean you can apply that to 100%.

As for watching TV or Netfix, yes many people get home after eight or so hours and use their recreational time staring at a screen. That's why it's called recreation. A types can spend every waking moment either working or working out but the B type majority does actually want to have some recreational actives in their life. Most people don't want to spend every waking moment toiling. I don't think people should feel guilty if they want to rest after eight hours work. For A types, there is only one form of rest, sleep.

Anyway, I'm going to take both sides of the issue just because I can and say that I've also wondered why there are so many fat people. Within the last year I've gone from 135 KG to 90 KG (about 300 lb to 200 lb). Some people may not have the time for more than light exercise or some people may not have the willpower. I fit into the second category. Then I learned of an effort free way to lose weight. Phentermine.

I got a script for Phentermine from the doc and the pounds melted off easily. I used to think ?wouldn't it be cool if there was a pill that would just make you thin?. Then I found out this pill has already existed for many years. Now I wonder why there are still fat people considering there's a pill that makes you lose large amounts of weight with little effort.
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6. If you live near any parks, see if any of them have fitness/parcourse trails.

6. they only have kids playgrounds.

If you just want some light exorcise that won't make you ripped but will prevent your metabolism from shutting down you don't need a park, you need a street. Just walk around the block for a while.
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I do intermittent fasting and I really hope it catches on as it was such a solution for me and Im sure it would be for others, its saves me loads and loads of money!! And fasting makes me feel tranquil and removes my social anxiety so makes me feel great too.

I heard about it through this horizon science documentary as it helps cancer, heart disease etc, so an all win.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... ive-longer

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I used to do that, long ago. It goes well for some people -- others get migraines and for whatever reason just can't do it. They don't feel tranquil, they feel ill. If it's nice for you, though, that's good.

Right now, I'm on food stamps and I'm on this great diet called "Can't Afford Food."

Not eating/barely eating leaves me weak, shaking, sweating, and unable to stand for long periods of time.

I can't comprehend "fasting" intentionally.

It's not that bad, before I went on the Phentermine I'd fast from noon Friday to noon Sunday every week. I sort of went into a mellow trance. It was pleasant but I couldn't think for two days at a time and that meant I couldn't do any tasks that required thinking. That was too time consuming. I gradually lost lost a few kilos with this. Anyway, you stop feeling hunger after a few hours. It's easier to fast when you're refusing food than when you don't have any food. It's easier when you feel like it's your own choice.

Anyway, if people lose weight to gain a partner because thin people look more attractive (they do) isn't the whole point of sexual attraction to seek out partners with good genes? Some people are naturally thin. Most fat people can lose weight but if they go from naturally fat to artificially thin does this mean they still have the fat gene? Even if they stay thin for life, is this just as misleading as getting fat again after you gain a partner? Is it genetic fraud?

Is it harder for unattractive women than unattractive men? Possibly. Maybe women have it harder in that regard and there are certainly other challenges unique to women. Yet L&D is full of frustrated guys saying men have it harder. So which side is right? Both are wrong. It's fallacious to list the problems faced by your own sex and ignore the problems faced by the opposite sex. Who has it harder? We may never know because no one has ever been both a man and a woman.
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I am going to slim down so that I will look even more like Jessica Alba. How long will it take me too lose 12 kilograms if I burn 500 calories more than I take in every day

Most people have a BMR of about 2,000 calories or so. If you're going to burn 500 more calories than you take in, are you going to count BMR in your equation (e.g. 2,000 calorie diet plus 500 calories of exercise means in total you burn 2,500 calories so you can eat 2,000 calories and have a 500 calorie deficit)...

Or are you not going to count BMR (e.g. eat 1,000 calories and do 1,500 calories of exorcise to supposedly get a 500 calorie deficit). Really this would give you a 2,500 calorie deficit though this would be a much harder regime to follow.

There are 7,000 calories in each kilo so to lose 12 kilos you have to have a deficit of 84,000 calories. If you follow example 1 it will take 168 days. If you follow example 2 it will take 34 days.

This is a rough guide because as you approach your goal weight your BMR will decrease. That's why the last pound is always much harder to lose than the first.



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A number of woman said that mothers raising young children (some of whom may also work) have zero free time. I know nothing of parenting and I have no reason to doubt that it's extremely time consuming but if you would indulge my curiosity, doesn't running after young children itself constitute an exercise? And don't other activities associated with parenting involve physical exertion?


Pregnancy may cause significant fat/protein gain for many women - there's also this false saying that they should eat for two; also running after children in a small house isn't the same as running cardio with a self-controlled breathing rate and constant heart rate in the park or gym.



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A number of woman said that mothers raising young children (some of whom may also work) have zero free time. I know nothing of parenting and I have no reason to doubt that it's extremely time consuming but if you would indulge my curiosity, doesn't running after young children itself constitute an exercise? And don't other activities associated with parenting involve physical exertion?


Pregnancy may cause significant fat/protein gain for many women - there's also this false saying that they should eat for two; also running after children in a small house isn't the same as running cardio with a self-controlled breathing rate and constant heart rate in the park or gym.


To be honest, I've been thinking the same thing - that being a mother is strenuous.

It has been my own experience and observation that mothers who are fat were fat before they became mothers. They often also have fat children because they "eat out the same frying pan" as my granny used to say, and because they adopt the same inactive lifestyle. After my son was born, I spent most of my time actively, with an emphasis very much on the actively, looking after him and the household, and later my job when I went back to work after maternity leave. I rarely had time to myself and pretty much stopped watching television when he was a baby.