So Guys(and gals, if you wish)...Which Do You Prefer?

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18 Mar 2008, 5:52 pm

No, no, I totally get it now.

When you ascribe women's comments to "feminist rage" and thinking "all men are a**holes", or when you agree with TOS that women are only motivated by money, that's "teasing". When I'm offended by these things, I'm an "angry scold"; but when you tell me I'm full of "disgusting hatred" and "have nothing else", once again, that's "teasing".

Basically, anything negative a man says is "teasing", but anything negative a woman says is motivated by psychopathic hatred.

Man, that Onion story is spot-on!

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18 Mar 2008, 6:01 pm

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God, you're so wrong. Hate is a never-ending cycle, I "tease" to bring light to such a dark subject. You cling too dearly to the past, you can't move forward.

I've already said, I am not sexist, prejudice or whatever the f**k else. I just want the hate to stop. And I'll pursue any means necessary to fulfill that goal. You'd be surprised the empathy I have towards you. But I cannot abide the hate, it'd only make it last longer.

Stop being so damn high and mighty, and take a step back to reflect on how you feel. Do you want to hate forever? Do you really want those things to continue to bother you, or do you want to become stronger?

You have but one life. Why waste it in the dark.

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18 Mar 2008, 6:07 pm

Let's deal the matter here:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp1284761.html#1284761

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18 Mar 2008, 6:07 pm

I think this thread should be dumped in the rubbish bin.. well, except for pages 1 through 5 when the petty b***h session started between you folks.

I was looking forward to seeing what people were talking about concerning the models and women's figures... but that's ancient history here now huh?

It would have been nicer if those of you who just want to b***h at each other could have taken it someplace esle.

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18 Mar 2008, 6:08 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

You filibustered the thread with the argument (overall against the threads existence or in substance against peoples right to say what they see or feel if its something that would upset you personally).

I agree that WE took over the thread with the argument. But you're wrong about my motive for continuing. I simply wasn't going to let BS get away with what he'd said to me.

I have no objection to people expressing their opinions as long as it doesn't cross over into hate speech. But if someone tries to belittle what I'm saying, I'm within my rights to fight back.

juliekitty wrote:

Second, please explain why you defend the rights of others to express their opinions, but then you say I ought to keep mine to myself.

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

Arridar and Blue did have a short back and forth but they didn't keep going and going and going. Other than that, the thread was running smooth and the blip was a page or so off the radar already.

Actually, my understanding was that you objected to my stating my opinions in the first place. Sorry if I got that wrong.

juliekitty wrote:

Then ToadofSteel complained about women only being motivated by money, at which I reasonably surmised he was having woman trouble and looking for something to blame it on.

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

Hmm, I may not be the best reader - can you highlight and bold the 'only' in here?

The exact quote was "Of course... women find men of any size attractive, so long as he has 4 mansions and a personal value of at least 50 million dollars... A private jet helps too..."

You're correct that the word "only" doesn't appear in that quote; but if you think I summarized TOS' statement inaccurately, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

juliekitty wrote:

BS' response was: "Men are a**holes. I'm thinking that's what you're meaning to say?"

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

Ok, so he finished the first lap a bit later than you did...

What he was doing, was trying to invalidate what I was saying by painting it as "feminist rage" and overall man-hating.

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

you did initiate the combat here and pushed it past threshold into an argument - pretty much on your own.

No, what I did was just not let it lie.

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

You guys should have taken it to PM immediately. Then again, I think (unless the PM was something perverse) someone tried that didn't they....

It wasn't perverse. What it was, was BS trying to make nice in private while simultaneously continuing the argument in public. I wasn't having any.

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18 Mar 2008, 6:09 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:

Let's deal the matter here:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp1284761.html#1284761

Haha, you really like to put a guy on the spot, don't you?

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18 Mar 2008, 6:12 pm

juliekitty wrote:

I went back to page 5 and focused as hard as I could on the words that you put down on paper. I do apologize for the first two quotes - when I look at that I see where you may have some of what I do, you can possibly mean one thing but have it take on a certain emotional glow that can dazzle people a little. It does look like a random 3-way collision blew up though.

And Julie, if your pissed with me right now you have a right to be. Just let it ride and I won't try to interject anything more into this thread. So many hidden angles to my own wiring that it makes me sometimes glad I put my foot in my mouth, wouldn't find new things to assess and correct otherwise, but its just weird and I hate messing with other people's emotions (though absolutely - I do take full responsibility).

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18 Mar 2008, 6:15 pm

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I'll pursue any means necessary to fulfill that goal.

Oh really? Well, I have two suggestions for you, then:

(1) Don't belittle what women say by putting it down to feminist rage or general man-hating.

(2) When you upset someone by doing the above, if you're genuinely only teasing, then say so rather than continuing to upset them.

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Stop being so damn high and mighty, and take a step back to reflect on how you feel. Do you want to hate forever? Do you really want those things to continue to bother you, or do you want to become stronger?

You have but one life. Why waste it in the dark.

Oh, for heaven's sake. Who's being high and mighty?

And don't bother to lecture and condescend. You were flaming as much as I was.

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18 Mar 2008, 6:19 pm

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It wasn't perverse. What it was, was BS trying to make nice in private while simultaneously continuing the argument in public. I wasn't having any.

Well, nothing else you said referred to me, so I'll only reply to this.

Again, you misunderstand. It was a pure white dove...until you slapped it away to be a black raven. You seemed completely uninterested in my delegations, so I had no choice but to go to War. And even then, my assaults were strategic in the fact that I wanted you to think. Think about who you were, what you believed in.

Bah, you never saw that. I'm ashamed at having to explain it. You disappoint me.

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18 Mar 2008, 6:21 pm

Aridarr wrote:

Made you one.

Looks tasty. *crunch*

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18 Mar 2008, 6:22 pm

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Aridarr wrote:

Made you one.

Looks tasty. *crunch*

That is mine out of love. Do not hijack my hijacked thread :evil:

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18 Mar 2008, 6:26 pm

Bluesummers wrote:

And even then, my assaults were strategic in the fact that I wanted you to think. Think about who you were, what you believed in.

Bah, you never saw that. I'm ashamed at having to explain it. You disappoint me.

Give it up. You're not going to achieve anything by patronizing and insulting me, except continuing to provoke me.

There may be someone on these forums who can spark enlightenment in others by flaming them. I guarantee it isn't you, though.

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18 Mar 2008, 6:34 pm

juliekitty wrote:

Bluesummers wrote:

Give it up. You're not going to achieve anything by patronizing and insulting me, except continuing to provoke me.

God damn it, aren't you supposed to be the mature one here? THAT'S WHAT I REALLY FEEL, MORON. Put your silly hatred aside, realize I was only complimenting you from the beginning. Realize I still am now. Have I not made it f*****g clear by now?

I like you, for what you are, and what you think. I wouldn't have given you a second worth of time otherwise. STOP THE HATE, IT NEVER ENDS OTHERWISE. I've tried to make this clear, yet you keep insisting I'm some dumbass reject. I may be half your age, but grow up...

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18 Mar 2008, 6:42 pm

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God damn it, aren't you supposed to be the mature one here? THAT'S WHAT I REALLY FEEL, MORON.

Well, well. So much for the guy who's qualified to enlighten others, and who wants peace by any means necessary.

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realize I was only complimenting you from the beginning. Realize I still am now. Have I not made it f***ing clear by now?

No, not very. And I don't hold out much hope for you being able to.

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I like you, for what you are, and what you think. I wouldn't have given you a second worth of time otherwise.

Quite frankly, at this point I don't care whether or not you like me. I just want you to step back.

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18 Mar 2008, 6:42 pm

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It was a pure white dove...until you slapped it away to be a black raven.

She slapped a raven? I like ravens. :cry:

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18 Mar 2008, 6:43 pm

Dear lord, why did you guys start a flame war without me? I actually have stuff to do in life! I can't be available 24/7 for this kind of stuff...

That being said, if there's still a flamewar on, allow me to contribute...

*AHEM*

LPP sucks!

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