[25+ Age] L & D Forums for High-Functioning Adult AS?

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i saw a program on this as well, but the magnetic fields they were talking about were being used by the birds to navigate as they migrated.... is this the research you are talking about?

Henry Stapp was the first to study the quantum possibility of human brain function so search for his early papers to get a good basis and then work upward from there. This particular field of study is thought to be closer to the cause of certain neurological conditions than genetics.

there are more people in the world who are competitive by nature than those who are not. the same goes for insecurity when it comes to IQ/intelligence. as soon as you mention intelligence, especially when it is obvious by the way you communicate that you are of above-average intelligence, there are going to be many who react with defensiveness and antagonism. this is just human nature--NT, aspie, or otherwise. it's all about insecurity. either a person can accept their own strengths and limitations and therefore doesn't need to be constantly measuring themselves against others....or they cannot, and so must compete and antagonise. blame it on biology. blame it on god. just don't shoot the messenger lol

i do believe the cat is out of the bag

at least have the cojones to admit what you are, LPP

sorry to correct, but in sanndrs defense, what he(?) offered was an explanation of logic, rather than opinion. the principles and processes of logic, in this circumstance (simple if x and y are true, is related factor z also true-type logic) are factual, not a matter of opinion. at least, by my interpretation of what was said. not everything expressed is an opinion, just because a person happens to be saying it. some things are universal, logical truths no matter who is presenting them. just trying to be fair, here.

why does everyone assume that if you make a statement about having a high IQ, that automatically means you are arrogant about the fact? ephemerella never made any statement that stated or inferred that she felt she was better than others in regards to her IQ, only that she wished to discus topics of shared interest with those of similar characteristics like high IQ and a high level of functioning. this is not a judgment. any judgment inferred is due to the readers bias towards those of higher intelligence. i am not insecure about my intelligence, so i didn't see this post as derogatory or arrogant at all. she was merely stating a numerical fact (her IQ score happens to be higher than mine.....from this i do not infer either that she believes she is better than me, or that i believe she is better than me for having a higher IQ. it's just a number.) people are too sensitive about this issue. they see "IQ" and instantly the claws come out and it ceases to be a rational discussion and turns into a muddy mess of everyone's insecurities.

....which i believe was sort of the point of the original OP. am i wrong?

It's a matter of tone and appropriateness that determine if someone is perceived as arrogant (and it also depends, of course, on the attitudes of the perceiver!). Making mention of one's innate abilities and capacities when it does not add value to the conversation can come across as arrogant, vain, or boastful. When these innate talents or accomplishments are used as a way of distinguishing oneself from others, setting a bar that people must meet to be deemed worthy of socializing with, especially when that bar is arbitrary and the assumption that it isn't met is insulting, can be perceived as narcissistic.

A similar example might be this (substituting vanity for arrogance):

Insecurities or not, people are going to be peeved because the presumptions behind the statements are insulting.

spot on. you have to listen when that red alarm light goes on in your mind when dealing with males like this. this instinct can save your life, literally. it has mine.

wow. incredibly sweeping statement there. thanks for speaking for me and every other woman, toots. or do you prefer babe? how bout a slap on the ass while we're at it? is that the generation you come from? my god.....women are not interested in math. that's priceless. i'm going to go put my head in the oven now.

It is true, even in the NT population.

have you ever tried to communicate something to someone who was significantly less able to communicate/comprehend than you were?

i know no other way to word this, so i apologise in advance if it comes across as inflammatory or offensive because i don't intend it to be so--i am only trying to make a point.

in my personal experience, there have been times when i have encountered extreme frustration while trying to convey something to someone that i have become aware that they cannot understand or follow. i'm sure this is true of just about anyone....you meet all kinds of people in your life, from the very smart to the incredibly stupid, so you're bound to encounter someone with less cognitive ability than you.

whether we like it or not, there is a factor of intelligence that, when it comes to sharing ideas and communicating, requires the people involved in the sharing process to be of a certain subset, otherwise sharing becomes impossible. it's not sharing if it's only going in one direction, and not being properly received or reciprocated. all ephemerella was ever asking, was for an exchange between others of the same subset as her, so she could share and debate ideas without the worry and frustration of not being understood. i believe that is why she included high IQ as a "criterion" for participation. i don't think it was meant to be exclusive or elitist, only practical. ephemerella, please correct me if i am wrong.

and one more thing and then i'm done for the night i swear lol.....

i think all that was ever asked for here was mature, respectful discussion of ideas, without reducing things to personal attacks, judgments, or semantics. without all the things that many came at her with in their response. just discussion of ideas. why can't we do that? ole socrates must be spinning in his grave.....

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To admit what? I have already explained why I set my profile to female.


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The one who accused me was lotusblossom , it was a misunderstanding and we're in good terms now. The other was Missconstrue and it was also due to the same misunderstanding and to terms not in place that I used (I apologized for those) and we are in very good terms now. Yes, I had my frustration moments with a woman which led me to unfairly stereotype them most of them...but that was something from the past but I was never a harasser or stalker and never will be.



Go ahead, contact those 2 members and ask them if I am any kind of harasser , if you can prove any kind of stalking or harassing then you have the full right to demand my banning.


Most users here know me more than any of you two and they know very well that I am male and I am neither a stalker or a harasser. A real stalker wouldn't have the courage to openly admit a such profile change.

Your indication that I am "one" (a stalker) is a direct offense and insult and an accusation without any ground. You don't know me and I don't know you at all so how can you be sure that I am "what you are"?


Just it's because I am male who criticized a user who happened to be female then that means that I am harasser? I would reply the OP the same reply if she was male. My reply has nothing to do with her gender or mine.

And just because my profile is set to female then that means I am a stalker? I know some gamer girls who use male avatars in order to avoid prejudice , does that mean these girls are harassers themselves?

if someone accused me that I am stalker harasser then that automatically means that I am one? Wow.

Who are you? ephermella's advocate? What gives yo the right to sous-entendue accuse me like this?



And oh how btw, cojones is a chauvinist term , you shouldn't use it....

^ Oh , I got a better idea starvingartist .....instead of just asking Missc or Lotusbolsom , let's make a bet , why you or ephemerella start a thread in the Women section called "To all women on WP , have you had any harassing/stalking signs from the infamous fishy user known as "LePetitPrince?" " .

If one user , any user, says yes and prove your 'accusation" with clear evidence then I will refrain from posting on WP permanently.


Now , you can't say that you don't wish that =) .

You are totally changing the issue here, we all know that not all people have the same level of IQ, we all know that there are those with very high IQ and those with average and low IQ.

But the OP's post was offensive because she's openly assuming that people who have no "high-level" of IQ are incapable to make interesting and mature threads and she was suggesting to make a section just for High-IQ people because , in her belief, they are the only ones who are capable to discuss mature matters.

It is especially offensive on this forum because many users might have severe or non-verbal autism and their IQ might be wrongly perceived as "low" according to the standard IQ tests.

Anyways,a low or average IQ doesn't necessary make one less productive, not even in ideas, my IQ level varies between 115 and 120 so my IQ is very average so I am might not be smarter than you or ephemerella, but I have my Masters degree now and got some certificate , I am working for 2 years in a big company and now my CEO is starting telling me about a promoted position in a larger country. It wasn't easy for me but I am sure that some high-IQ aspies couldn't achieve that much.

The OP's attitude reminds me of the movie "Gattaca".

Let's try avoiding the Q bit, why don't we? IQ may not be the best measure and more akin to the measure of a slope determined by a rolling ball and a stop watch.